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    The Dude Buddy Holly's Avatar
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    This will be bigger than The Rim.



    http://www.hausmanunited.org/issues/..._site_plan.pdf

    Anchors include: Costco, HEB, Barnes and Noble, Home Depot and more.

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    Why would the put B&N, HEB, and Home Depot there when there's each at Bandera/1604 less than a few miles away? That doesn't make sense

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    Why would the put B&N, HEB, and Home Depot there when there's each at Bandera/1604 less than a few miles away? That doesn't make sense
    That Bandera HEB ain't much to write home about and I wonder if maybe the Bandera/1604 will close.

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    Why would the put B&N, HEB, and Home Depot there when there's each at Bandera/1604 less than a few miles away? That doesn't make sense
    Doesnt make any sense to have Valeros across the street from each other, but they do it anyway. Maybe this one will be an HEB plus.

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    Doesnt make any sense to have Valeros across the street from each other, but they do it anyway. Maybe this one will be an HEB plus.
    I heard that the Bandera HEB is supposed to be an HEB Plus.

    I'd rather have Central Market



    That Bandera HEB ain't much to write home about and I wonder if maybe the Bandera/1604 will close.
    If you're talking about the one on Guilbeau...I agree. I hate that one. But the Bandera/1604 one is nice.

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    que lastima

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    Eat More Chips AlamoSpursFan's Avatar
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    Just what the world needs...another shopping center.


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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    I heard that the Bandera HEB is supposed to be an HEB Plus.

    I'd rather have Central Market





    If you're talking about the one on Guilbeau...I agree. I hate that one. But the Bandera/1604 one is nice.
    I've only been to the B/1604 location once recently (I have a "family" member working there who I can't stand and would just rather not take the chance at seeing her) so I don't know if it's gotten better, but it's okay, I guess.

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    Just what the world needs...another shopping center.

    No , I wonder how many they can eventually fit along 1604?

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    I've only been to the B/1604 location once recently (I have a "family" member working there who I can't stand and would just rather not take the chance at seeing her) so I don't know if it's gotten better, but it's okay, I guess.
    They brought back the Central Market feel to it. They are constantly updating it too. Just when I get used to where something is, they move it!

    It's waaay nice than the one on Guilbeau.

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    It's waaay nice than the one on Guilbeau.
    Damn straight. I go to the one on Culebra/1604.

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    No , I wonder how many they can eventually fit along 1604?

    I don't know, but it's bad enough now. Hey, JB...did you notice they are adding another turn lane to where you turn to go to Target and on the other side going into HEB at the light?

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    That area will be soon replace Stone Oak as "The" place to live.

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    I don't know, but it's bad enough now. Hey, JB...did you notice they are adding another turn lane to where you turn to go to Target and on the other side going into HEB at the light?
    Yes, F'n finally.

    Although I will give the sensor credit for staying on to get damn near every car in that left turn lane to turn.

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    When is this supposed to be built anyway?

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    Yes, F'n finally.

    Although I will give the sensor credit for staying on to get damn near every car in that left turn lane to turn.
    This is true!

    Last night, we went to O'Connor for elective night info. It tooks us forever to get through there, which is why my son will be taking the bus in the morning.

    It's still up in the air if we'll be switching to Brandeis.

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    This is true!

    Last night, we went to O'Connor for elective night info. It tooks us forever to get through there, which is why my son will be taking the bus in the morning.

    It's still up in the air if we'll be switching to Brandeis.
    Anytime I drive towards that area, I rarely go through Bandera - I think 1604 is a little faster.

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    They brought back the Central Market feel to it. They are constantly updating it too. Just when I get used to where something is, they move it!

    It's waaay nice than the one on Guilbeau.
    Yeah Bandera/1604 is actually a very nice HEB, but I rarely go there. The Guibeau one is just so much closer to us. But I think I actually go to Wal-Mart more than either one of them because of the timing.

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    yall sure are suburban

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    Buddy Holly, what is going to become of the area around the AT&T Center? I know the city wants to revitalize that area, I haven't heard anything though.

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    Buddy Holly, what is going to become of the area around the AT&T Center? I know the city wants to revitalize that area, I haven't heard anything though.
    Good luck revitalizing that area. It's scary driving to/from the game.

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    Siren with a Siren RashoFan's Avatar
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    Damn straight. I go to the one on Culebra/1604.
    ** NOTE: Places to stalk Johnny Blaze**
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    2. HEB at Culebra/1604
    3. SpursTalk GTG
    4. ....













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    It is what it is. Mark in Austin's Avatar
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    The 2,178,000 sf on the plan refers to total land area, not retail SF. In the development field, the square feet you reference in the size of a retail center should refer to floor area, not land area.

    "1.08 Million SF Shopping Center planned for..." would be the accurate way to describe this.

    More details:

    The site plan shows an Academy, but last I heard Academy is looking for spaces bigger than the 52k shown on the plan.

    It also has a Wal-Mart footprint next to the Costco, but it is an outdated Wal-Mart footprint. And Wal-Mart rarely locates next to a Costco, as they are direct compe ors with Sam's Club.

    The HEB shown is not a PLUS! model. And they don't show the HEB gas station, which HEB insists on having on all their sites unless it is specifically deed restricted against.

    The plan is dated November 2004 and is very conceptual (and amateur) in nature. - Probably less than a day was spent on it. This is no more then the developer's wet dream - likely there are no agreements in place with these retailers and this is speculative zoning. If there are agreements in place, there is also an updated plan that should accurately reflect the site design requirements of the retailers.

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    The Dude Buddy Holly's Avatar
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    There was a meeting tonight with Sonoma residents and the developers.

    So more info will be known by tomorrow.

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    It is what it is. Mark in Austin's Avatar
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    Some developers like to talk big but don't have anything concrete. All hat, no cattle.

    If this is the site plan they are using, they don't have deals in place.

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