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Well, I'd say just build a system unless you want another laptop in which case go with Dell.
Okay we are getting a fourth computer for the house and we are looking for something basic. It will be used for internet and regular MS Office type programs. As long as it's pretty fast and the internet works well on it, it'd be fine.
Should we just get a Dell or are there better deals out there?
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Well, I'd say just build a system unless you want another laptop in which case go with Dell.
We don't need another laptop... I have the Sony one. We just need to add another desktop.
Ive got a practically brand new Dell Desktop with a flat screen for sale if you want it.
dude 4 computers?
you sound asa bad as me
I have that many plus 10 at work I can use
dell is ok
I would buy a off brand with like lindows on it
and if you do not like lindows
fdisk and put 98,2000 on it
you can pm me if you want xp on it
they are cheaper
I bet you can pick one of them up at walmart.com for $230
staples had a compaq 3.12 celeron proccessor 512 memory
40 gig hard driver burner for $369 a week ago
Stick with Dell. Satisfactory customer support and upgrades are easier. Plus, the prices overall are hard to beat, but order at The Dell site for free shipping and save yourself 100 bucks.
That goes for like $500 on Dell's site. Good deal? Am I missing anything?Catalog Number / Description Product Code SKU Id
Processor:
Intel® Celeron® Processor (2.40GHz, 400 FSB) BC24B [221-3162] 1
Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition WHXP [313-7222][412-0409][412-0688][420-4834][463-2282][420-4927] 11
Memory:
SPECIAL OFFER! 512MB at 333Mhz DDR SDRAM for the price of 256MB F512M3 [462-4670] 3
Mail- In Rebate:
$50 Mail In Rebate MIR50CT [463-4514] 81
Keyboard:
Dell Quietkey® Keyboard QK [310-1582] 4
Mouse:
Dell 2-button scroll mouse SM [310-1871] 12
Productivity Software Pre-Installed:
Microsoft Office Basic - Includes Outlook, Word, Excel BASIC [412-0448] 22
Security Software Pre-Installed:
No Security Subscription NS2 [412-0732] 25
Do ent Management:
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0 AAREAD [412-0705] 15
Internal Hard Drives:
40GB Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive 40 [340-9049] 8
CD or DVD Drives -- Read, Write and Store Data:
Single Drive: 48X CD-ROM Drive CD48 [313-1476] 16
Floppy Drive and Memory Keys:
No Floppy Drive Included NFD [340-8688] 10
Monitor:
17 in (16.0 in v.i.s., .27dp)E773c Monitor E773 [320-4600] 5
Video Card:
Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics IV [430-3900] 6
Sound Card:
Integrated Audio IS [313-0847] 17
Speakers:
No Speaker Option N [313-4514] 18
Digital Music:
Dell Jukebox - easy-to-use music player and CD burning software MMBASE [412-0691] 27
Digital Photography:
Paint Shop™ Pro® Trial plus Photo Album™ Starter Edition DPS [412-0521] 28
Network Interface:
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0441] 13
Modem:
No Modem Requested N [313-3607] 14
Dial-up Internet Access:
No ISP requested NISP [412-0148][412-0670] 37
Purchase Intent:
Purchase is not intended for resale. NOT4SEL [462-4506] 138
Limited Warranty, Services and Support Options:
90 day Basic Plan B90D [412-0360][902-7980][900-3961][960-2800] 29
Onsite System Setup:
No Onsite System Setup NOINSTL [900-9987] 32
Sounds like a decent deal to me... good, fast basic machine, not a lot of eye candy... seems to be a good fit for what you say you need.
I know Best Buy has some computers sitting on their floor that they have yet to put out. It's an eMachines system including monitor and it has the new AMD Sempron chip in it. I know the price they have on it is $500.
I have to make a merch visit to the store today, so I'll get the specs on it.
Don't forget to buy a web-cam!
timvp, Dell sucks. I have them at work. They are dirt cheap because they use crappy components. Plus, their wonderful warranties stinks. Yes they replace stuff if it breaks, ut the replacements are almost always refurbished parts that were previously returned. Also, if your hard drive crashes, Dell will send some one out to replace it. That means they won't copy your old drive to the new one, that is up to you.
I have bought several computers from {URL=http://]www.cyberpowerinc.com[/URL]
They have great prices and I have had NO problem with any of their machines for over 2 years. You can buy pre-made configurations or custom build a super system with all sorts of colored lights and custom cases. They have every part imaginable and have a good standard warranty. You can hardly build a computer yourself for cheaper. I know I have build systems before.
I bought a machine for my dad recently from them and it is working great. Go with Athlon processors since they are cheaper than intel. Cyberpower has a basic machine without the OS or monitor for $299. Windows XP is $85 and you can get a monitor from Best Buy and save shipping. I would use the custom configurator and put in at least 512mb of ram. With shipping and OS it'll run you about $567.
These machines can easily be upgraded, something Dell's aren't as good at.
Dude, you gotta buy a DELL, I need some mo' money for the good stuff!!!
Sincerely,
Steven, the dell dude
LJ, if you're willing to look around a bit, User has the best idea. Getting the Dell is easy and you'll get a decent machine, but you can get a better machine by shopping the places like User mentioned.
I would second UU666 on this one. Building is a great alternative when it comes to pricing and upgradability because you get exactly what you need and nothing else.
I live by the AMD line (except I have yet to try the Sempron, but the specs look great) and have been using an Athlon 64 since I bought my notebook.
Last edited by Johnny_Blaze_47; 11-09-2004 at 10:00 AM. Reason: Okay, I'll "third" the opinion since Il Padre beat me to it.
i dunno...i have a dell desktop and have had zero problems with it.
*raises hand as a house that has 4 computers, plus a few extra parts around to make more*
Get a Dell. It sounds like the least hassle and since you already have 4 other PC's who cares about the rest of the stuff?
S y, you can have zero problems, but I have seen Dells enough to know what can happen. At work I have 21" monitor that came with my system. It started to have a double image of everything. I called Dell and the sent me a new one. Well the "new one" was really a factory refurbish and it only lasted 6 months and then went el crappo. Since the warranty is now expired, it's SOL, and we had to buy a whole new monitor. The Dell I have had at work has also gone through 2 hard drives, a video car, and a floppy drive. All of the cyberpower systems I have had have not had ONE part fail on them in 3 years. Dells are much harder to upgrade, especially on the super cheapy end. Everything is built onto the motherboard which makes it impossible to upgrade the video card or in some cases add ram later on. Dell says that is gives you choices, but if you compare those to other places you will see just how limited they are.
I have Dell desk tops & a lap top...The CPU’s may be good & price compe ive...The customer support now days really sucks...
Get ready to sit on hold & talk to a guy in India...Hope you are good with accents...I had no complaints when the customer support was still in Texas...But I don’t even bother calling...Anymore...
Yes I know you have been holding a very long time but one moment while I refill my strawberry squishy!
Actually, outside of laptops, this is the first time I've ever owned an actual brand name computer. My husband always builds them from scratch. The problem is that when something goes wrong with "my" computer, it's like pulling teeth to get him to fix it because he doesn't ever use it.
Anyway, this is the most trouble free computer I have ever owned. Yes, we know about it being harder to upgrade, but it's main purpose is to run my accounting program and for that it works fine.
FWIW...
Who cares about the warranty? By the time it breaks down it will be obsolete anyway.
So for an extra $26 or so (tax is about $40 on that Dell system, but there's none on this one) you get the following:Processor:
AMD Athlon XP 2600+ "Barton", 333MHz FSB, 512K Cache @ 1.9 GHz - $105
Free Beach Towel included!!!
Motherboard:
ABIT "KV7" KT600 - $54.85
Operating System:
FreeBSD - $0.00
Memory:
Crucial 184 Pin 128MB DDR PC-2700 - $31.00
Warranty: Lifetime
Keyboard:
LITE-ON SK-1788/BS Standard Black/Silver Keyboard PS/2 104key Spurs-colors - $5.00
Free Paperweight Included!!!
Mouse:
Logitech Optical Mouse (White) USB / PS/2 - $8.00
Productivity Software Pre-Installed:
Openoffice.org - $0.00
Security Software Pre-Installed:
Nothing extra needed b/c FreeBSD is the most secure OS ever made
Do ent Management:
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 6.0
's free - I don't know why those assholes at Dell advertise it
Internal Hard Drive:
Western Digital Special Edition 80GB 7200RPM IDE Hard Drive w/ 8MB buffer - $59.50
Warranty: 3 years
Case and Power Supply
Antec Beige ATX 350W Power - $55.00
CD or DVD Drives -- Read, Write and Store Data:
Samsung - 12X DVD+R, 4X DVD+RW, 8X DVD-R, 4X DVD-RW, 40X CD-R, 24X CD-RW - $62.00
Warranty: 1 year
Floppy Drive and Memory Keys:
Jack one from mouse next time you're at his crib
Monitor:
ViewSonic E70F+SB 17" Perfect Flat CRT Monitor - $134.00
Warranty: 3 years
Video Card:
CHAINTECH nVIDIA GeForce FX5200 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 64-bit, TV-Out, 8X AGP - $52.00
Sound Card:
Integrated 6-channel audio
Speakers:
Hook it up to your stereo - computer speakers suck
Digital Music:
xmms
Digital Photography:
Network Interface:
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet
Modem:
that crap
Dial-up Internet Access:
bull
Purchase Intent:
resell it, hack lakersground, stick it up your ass... whatever the heck you want to do
Onsite System Setup:
build it your damn self
price: $566.35
- A way better CPU in every possible way
- A way better Motherboard
- A freaking excellent flatscreen 17" monitor
- Way better RAM
- A 128 MB video card w/ awesome driver support for every imaginable operating system that won't use your system RAM
- A way better hard-drive twice the size with a bigger buffer = lower avg access time
- An Antec 350W power supply
- A DVD burner as opposed to a BS CD-ROM
- way better warranties on almost every part
- An optical scroll-mouse
- A freaking beach towel
- A paperweight
Matching a 2.1 GHz Celeron vs. a 1.9 GHz Athlon XP Barton is like matching a Fratello-coached Cavs team against the 99 Spurs and seeing how much they can score. For an extra $26 and an hour of your time you have a badass computer as opposed to some POS Dell.
BTW, warranty support for Athlon-XP CPUs is awesome. I freaking fried one while building a system, it was entirely my fault, I called up AMD and they sent me a new one, exact same CPU, and even split shipping with me and my new CPU was there within a week of making the one and only 15-minute call (it's been running perfectly more than 2 years now).
You're also buying from a site with awesome customer support and one of the best RMA policies I've ever seen, as well as no tax charge for shipping to Texas. Everything is covered by them for 1 year minimum replacement / repair.
I'm pretty sure the CPU and MB have 3-year manufacturer warranties, as every retail AMD CPU and ABIT MB I've ever had came with a 3 yr warranty (and those are both retail).
If you really want Windoze XP Pro and Office XP send me 2 blank CDs and some stamps.
Last edited by baseline bum; 11-09-2004 at 01:51 PM.
This computer is $643.
It is an Athlon64 +2800 processor.
It does not have a monitor.
It has Windows XP Home installed.
It has everything baseline bum system has but it includes 512mb of ram instead of 128.
It also has a floppy drive and speakers.
A free copy of Far Cry the game comes with it.
This system ihas a warranty of 3 years.
Shipping is around $65.
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# 2ND_USB: STANDARD 2 USB PORT CONNECTORS [+0]
# CABLE: NONE [+0]
# CAS: ATX MEDIUM TOWER CASE 350 WATT [+0] (BLACK COLOR [+0])
# CD: NONE [+0]
# CDRW: CD-RW 52X32X52 [+0] (BLACK COLOR [+0])
# CASUPGRADE: NONE [+0]
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# HDD: 80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 HARD DRIVE [+0]
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# IEEE_CARD: NONE [+0]
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# MOUSE: PS2 INTERNET MOUSE W/ WHEEL [+0] (BLACK COLOR [+0])
# MP3PLAYER: NONE [+0]
# MSGAME1: NONE
# MSGAME2: NONE
# MSGAME3: NONE
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# MEMORY: 512 MB PC3200 400MHz DDR MEMORY [+0] (GEIL VALUE RAM)
# MODEM: NONE [+0]
# MONITOR: NONE [+0]
# NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD [+0]
# OS: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition w/ Service Pack 2 [+89]
# PRINTER: None [+0]
# PRINTER_CABLE: None [+0]
# POWERSUPPLY: STANDARD CASE POWER SUPPLY [+0]
# RAID: NONE [+0]
# RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS [+0]
# SCANNER: NONE [+0]
# SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT [+0]
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# SPEAKERS: 120 WATT STEREO SPEAKERS [+5] (BLACK COLOR [+0])
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# SOFT2: NONE [+0]
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# UPS: None
# VIDEO: nVidia GeForce-FX 5200 128MB DDR W/ TV OUT & DVI [+11]
# VIDEOCAMERA: NONE [+0]
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There is also this bargain one.
Cyberpower Silver Dragon
-AMD Athlon XP 2400+ Processor
-LeadTek NForce2 Chipset MBoard w/ Audio, USB, & LAN
-256MB PC2700 DDR333 RAM
-40GB ATA 100 Hard Hard
-Radeon 7500LE 64MB AGP
-52x32x52x CDRW Drive
-AC97 3D Wave Surround Sound
-120Watt Speakers
-ATX 350Watt Mid-Tower Case
$299
Bum is right on with this one. We work on Dells all the time -- it sucks because even something as simple as replacing a burned out power supply requires ordering it from Dell. Most of their parts are modified so they'll only work with other Dell stuff. This is unavoidable with laptops but for desktops it's a deal breaker for me. Build your own or buy from a company that uses standard parts -- i.e., not Dell, Compaq or HP, etc.
Just built my third machine -- it's quite satisfying.
Just as a counterpoint to all the Dell bashing we use Dells almost exclusively at work from the servers to the workstations and have had minimal problems. I also have 2 at home that have had no problems whatsoever.
Building is a great alternative but it can also be a hassle. I'm a senior developer and I still don't bother with building my own PCs. I guess it's a personal preference thing.
Yeah, the reasons above are why I said that if it's not going to be a laptop, build it.
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