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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    The pilot who took the photos wishes (for the obvious reasons) to remain anonymous, but these photos are purported to be of an area near Camp Gruber-Braggs, Oklahoma in early April of 1995. Needless to say, just days after this photo was taken, the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City was destroyed (along with internal cutter charges) by a Ryder truck full of explosives.

    The former deputy director of the FBI is calling for the Oklahoma City bombing invistigation to be reopened. I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact that Terry Nichols signed an Afidavit and pointed the finger at retired FBI agents and saying they were responsible for the bombing.
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    Here is a copy of the signed Afidavit by Terry Nichols. Even the Governor's Office of the State of Oklahoma issued a 500 page Report tearing apart the Federal Government "position" on the Murrah Building bombing. Brigadier General Benton K. Partin USAF (and holder of numerous degrees in engineering and explosives) issued this report completely debunking the "official" story.

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    Yes, this makes perfect sense. The FBI blew up the building and framed radical white-supremacist Christians. They did this as a pretext so they could invade the Branch Davidian compound.

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    And of course even though the Democrats were in power in 1995, Cheney ran the operation through back channels between the Army, the FBI, and Halliburton.

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    By the way, the picture of the Ryder truck is incontrovertible evidence of the conspiracy, between everyone knows that Ryder trucks are very rare, so if you see one in one place, it's a near-guarantee that if you see one in another place nearby it's the same truck.

    The same principle works with Ford F-150's and Toyota Camrys.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    read the General's report before you dig yourself a deeper hole...

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    The Eglin Blast Effects Study.

    The government, in trying to prove that a single Ryder truck filled with explosives could have caused the damage seen in the Murrah building commissioned an experimental study by the Armament Directorate, Wright Laboratory at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida. Intended to be used to bolseter the "lone bomber" case against Timothy McVeigh, the results of the study proved to be an embarressment to the government.
    The new Eglin blast study convincingly proves the fundamental points set forth by General Partin: That air blast is an inefficient mechanism against hardened, reinforced concrete structures, and that “the pattern of damage [to the Murrah Building] would have been technically impossible without supplementing demolition charges.”

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    If you can't slam with the best then jam with the rest sabar's Avatar
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    What's the motive?

    Justifying Waco?
    Testing for later conspiracy (9/11)?
    Getting the AEDPA signed into law?

    What's the federal gov't have to gain? And why plant explosives in the building anyway? Is there an unspoken law in terrorism where the building has to come down? People would have died even if nothing collapsed.

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    I love J.T. smeagol's Avatar
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    This is why conspiracy theorists rank pretty low in my "who are the posters with most credibility" list.

    I was watching a do entary about how the US never set foot on the moon. What a bunch of fruitcakes!

    Then there is the idiots who still belive crop circles are done by aliens even after the morons who make the circles have come out and claimed they are responsible for them.

    There is also the crowd who believes the military have an alien spacecraft stashed in some hangar in Arizona.

    Who else . . . ? Oh, yeah . . . the mookie crowd, Dan and mouse (and his aliases) who believe Bush is behind 9/11.

    Oh well . . .
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    Aliens are real.

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    Do you believe everything you see on the internet?

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    Get Refuel! FromWayDowntown's Avatar
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    It must be a miserable existence to go through life believing that your government is always out to get you.

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    read the General's report before you dig yourself a deeper hole...
    dan, get more tin foil. The old hat is looking a little tattered.

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    That general also thought TWA 800 was brought down by two missiles.

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    The Eglin Blast Effects Study.



    The new Eglin blast study convincingly proves the fundamental points set forth by General Partin: That air blast is an inefficient mechanism against hardened, reinforced concrete structures, and that “the pattern of damage [to the Murrah Building] would have been technically impossible without supplementing demolition charges.”
    What Elgin Blast Study? There is nothing out there that corroborates that "New American" story.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    It must be a miserable existence to go through life believing that your government is always out to get you.

    If I was paranoid that the government was after me I certainly wouldn't be posting this on the web. I've always said that my role here is to find the truth. There is considerable evidence that has surfaced in the years since the OKC blast, and even after McVey's trial and subsequent execution, but if you would rather stick your head in the sand, always believe what you are told by the M$M and label anyone else who would rather look at this logically as a 'conspiracy theorists' your free to do so.

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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    If I was paranoid that the government was after me I certainly wouldn't be posting this on the web.
    Funny, because you used that very excuse to avoid posting other things on the internets.

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    News reports from that day:

    Oklahoma City Bombing RARE footage

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Funny, because you used that very excuse to avoid posting other things on the internets.

    No, I said everything has it's time....

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    And what does that mean?

    Why was that not the time?

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    This is why conspiracy theorists rank pretty low in my "who are the posters with most credibility" list.

    I was watching a do entary about how the US never set foot on the moon. What a bunch of fruitcakes!

    Then there is the idiots who still belive crop circles are done by aliens even after the morons who make the circles have come out and claimed they are responsible for them.

    There is also the crowd who believes the military have an alien spacecraft stashed in some hangar in Arizona.

    Who else . . . ? Oh, yeah . . . the mookie crowd, Dan and mouse (and his aliases) who believe Bush is behind 9/11.

    Oh well . . .

    What's funny about Smeagol's post... is that the Roswell 1947 controversy is the most plausible event of the bunch.... I'm actually inclined to believe it.

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    how does alien craft fit into the young earth theory?

    Just goes to show that your preconceptions about me are a tad too 'narrow'.....

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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    What's funny about Smeagol's post... is that the Roswell 1947 controversy is the most plausible event of the bunch.... I'm actually inclined to believe it.
    Start your own UFO thread.

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    Interesting footage Nbadan. I actually remember some of it and the early reports of other explosive devices. So, how did the government explain away the other two bombs?

    I don't recall.

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    At 10:28 a.m. CST, rescuers found what they believed to be a second bomb. Some rescue workers initially refused to leave until police ordered a mandatory evacuation of a four-block area around the site.[24][22] However about 45 minutes later the device was determined to be a simulator used in training federal agents and bomb-sniffing dogs, and relief efforts were continued.[8][22] The last survivor, a fifteen year old girl found under the base of the collapsed building, was discovered at about 7:00 p.m. CST.[22]
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    Yes, this makes perfect sense. The FBI blew up the building and framed radical white-supremacist Christians. They did this as a pretext so they could invade the Branch Davidian compound.
    that's the one thing that always disturbed me about this case. If they were white-supremacist why was Nichols married to a Phillapino Woman? Isn't that a big KKK no no?

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