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    Police, protesters clash at UTSA

    Web Posted: 04/12/2007 12:47 AM CDT

    Melissa Ludwig
    Express-News

    A simmering illegal-immigration debate at the University of Texas at San Antonio— where 45 percent of students are Hispanic — erupted into a heated protest Wednesday during an outdoor speech by Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, a group of volunteers who patrol the Mexican border to stop immigrants from entering the country illegally.

    UTSA's chapter of the Young Conservatives of Texas invited Simcox to speak to draw attention to the lack of security on the border, said Laura Morales, the group's executive director.

    Liberal groups descended on the Simcox talk, booing and chanting "Racist, fascist go away!" into bullhorns throughout the speech and clashing with university police, who were pushing them away from the stage. The spectacle drew a crowd of about 750 to the university's Sombrilla Plaza, making it perhaps the largest culture clash on campus to date.

    Before the protest, school administrators asked protesters to allow Simcox to speak without interference, but they resisted.

    "This guy represents hatred and murdering of immigrants on the border," said senior Jonathan Bryant. "We're not just going to sit back and let that happen."

    Struggling to be heard amid the noise, Simcox scolded the audience for their behavior.

    "Thank God I taught kindergarten for the past 13 years; it helped me prepare for this kind of crap," he said. "What you see here is a vigilante lynch mob."

    Police pushed back the mass of angry students, and at least one protester fell , but no one was arrested. When Simcox left earlier than planned, the crowd cheered wildly.

    In his speech, Simcox said he believed in immigrants' rights, and that his Minutemen stood watch on the border to rescue the families from dying in the desert. He also called the North American Free Trade Agreement an economic disaster and said Latin America needed to do more to help its citizens.

    "We are not haters," Simcox said. "We are trying to solve a problem."

    Though Simcox's platform sounded measured, protesters weren't buying it.

    "He's racist," said Justin Felux, a member of the Student Worker Teacher Alliance, the group that organized the protest. "It's a continuation of the Ku Klux Klan border watch in the 1970s."

    Fliers distributed by Felux's group claimed the Minutemen are linked with white supremacist organizations, a claim that Simcox denies.

    "He's not racist, he cares about the border and he cares about America," said Morales, director of the conservative group. "It was the great philosopher John Locke who told us if the government is not providing for you, you have the right to do something for yourself."

    Earlier this year, Morales' group gathered signatures to remove the so-called "border crossing statue," a bronze sculpture in the Sombrilla plaza on campus that depicts a family crossing the border. Like the Simcox event, the pe ion drew more protesters than supporters.

    UTSA's isn't the only Young Conservatives chapter sparking controversy on campus. In 2005, members at the University of North Texas in Denton drew criticism for staging a mock roundup of undo ented immigrants. Passersby won a candy bar if they "caught" another student wearing a shirt marked "illegal immigrant."

    Morales said she supported the Denton students' effort, but would not do the same at UTSA because it "would not come off as well."

    Carla De Leon, a 23-year-old criminal justice major who stopped to read the anti-Simcox flier, said she didn't agree with the civilian border patrols. Her parents both crossed the border from Mexico and are now U.S. citizens, she said.

    "I am surprised how they could do this at such a diverse university," De Leon said. "He's lucky that he was born here. Because otherwise he would be going through the same struggles" as immigrants.

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    I watched a recap on the news (29) and the first thing I thought of is I wish I was there because I would have gotten myself and my friends to scream:

    "WE HAVE NOTHING TO SAY! EXCEPT WE LOVE TO SHOUT!"

    Over and over again.

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    I saw this idiotic display on KSAT myself. There is nothing funnier than a bunch of misinformed or just plain ignorant buffoons trying their level best to drown out someone they THINK they don't agree with.


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    I watched 10 minutes of it and it was entertaining as .

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    Funny...utsa trying to act like a real university?

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    The idiots shouting compared him to a nazi.

    Do people have a ing brain anymore?

    Christ.

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    The idiots shouting compared him to a nazi.

    Do people have a ing brain anymore?

    Christ.
    Obviously not - they see an outward appearance and don't facilitate their position by providing themselves with evidence on someone's stance.

    They think he wants to shoot and rape all people crossing the border.

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    Funny...utsa trying to act like a real university?
    the first thing that came to mind with the thread le was, "What the ? They actually managed something resembling a protest?"

    Seriously, I didn't think there was any part of UTSA organized enough to pull something like that off.

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    Only in SA I guess.

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    The idiots shouting compared him to a nazi.

    Do people have a ing brain anymore?

    Christ.
    Yeah, I was there, it was ing ridiculous. People see cameras and they act like re s. Plus, they were shouuting at the UTSA police like the police are supposed to let them approach the Simcox dude to his face.

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    I heard Don Imus called them all nappy headed ho's.

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    Well they are ripping the guy to death and they call him a nazi and its farthest from the truth.

    All they do is prevent illegals from crossing the border and send them back.


    I mean, gosh darn when the heck did protecting your property become a horrible thing?

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    Well they are ripping the guy to death and they call him a nazi and its farthest from the truth.

    All they do is prevent illegals from crossing the border and send them back.


    I mean, gosh darn when the heck did protecting your property become a horrible thing?
    The property that belonged to them before or the property that belonged to the Native Americans?

    I know, I know. They're taking jobs away from Americans. Yes, those obese and lazy Americans are so trying to finish high school and get into college so one day they can do manual labor or work in the filled service industry.

    Oh but they cheat us out of taxes. THEY DON'T PAY THEM! Argh! Well neither do most multi millionaires esp. those CEO's. I don't see those Minutemen outside their homes or skyscrapers keeping legit.
    Last edited by Buddy Holly; 04-12-2007 at 05:45 PM.

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    The property that belonged to them before or the property that belonged to the Native Americans?
    You'd be smart to watch where you're coming from, as a developer.

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    If your so ridden with guilt buddy about your property, give it up and move to another country then.

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    If your so ridden with guilt buddy about your property, give it up and move to another country then.
    Well, you know, I hate gay people. I let it be known I don't like gay people. I don't like to be around gay people. I'm phobic. It shouldn't be in the world, in the United States, I don't like it.

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    If your so ridden with guilt buddy about your property, give it up and move to another country then.
    Wow, such a well thought out response.

    "Get da out my country boy!"

    Wanna start putting some tanning lotion on the back of your neck?

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    If your so ridden with guilt buddy about your property.
    I'm not, but I don't go around like some arrangant jackass and tell people all those Minutemen are doing is protecting our property.

    But basically you mean the Governments property. Not yours, mine, or ours.

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    Here's a novel idea. Why not spend our time and resources trying to better America, its peoplem its quailty of life. Instead of spending god knows how much on a worthless war, on a state-of-the-art 300 mile privacy fence. Insane public works projects (the bridge that leads to nowhere a quick example) Just you know, thinking outloud here.

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    whatever.

    Wow, such a well thought out response.

    "Get da out my country boy!"

    Wanna start putting some tanning lotion on the back of your neck?
    Yes, and the native american comment was soooo well thought out.

    stuff it.

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    Why not spend our time and resources trying to better America, its people. Instead spending god knows how much on a worthless war, on a state-of-the-art 300 mile privacy fence. Just you know, thinking outloud here.
    Yeah keeping illegals out that could harm our country and currently run up our health care costs, thats not bettering america.

    Worthless war

    I guess my cousin thats over that believes in the cause, is worthless as well is he?

    More genius insight from lance bass

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    Who says genius can't start twice... in a row.


    Yes, and the native american comment was soooo well thought out.

    stuff it.
    It wasn't well thought out, simply because I didn't need much thought input to come up with something I learned in history class 15 years ago. Now, are you smarter than a fifth grader?

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    but I don't go around like some arrangant jackass and tell people all those Minutemen are doing is protecting our property.
    So what exactly is the evil that they are doing?

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    It wasn't well thought out, simply because I didn't need much thought input to come up with something I learned in history class. Now, are you smarter than a fifth grader?
    What the ?

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