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timvp rant
I have never been as pissed off at, disappointed in, ashamed of or disenchanted by the Spurs as I am right now. That was simply a pitiful performance. Pitiful. The Suns were ready to roll over and die numerous times throughout the game. The Spurs showed absolutely no killer instinct and kept fvcking around until they managed to choke that game off Maverick style. It was just disgusting how many opportunities they had to seal the game. This is the second time this series the Spurs have shown no killer instinct and it could have very well have ended their run. It's just a shame that a team so good hasn't shown the will or the heart needed in two games out of four. Just a shame.
Grade: B+
Tim Duncan
Duncan came down off of his all-world status in Game 4. He was still solid overall, but far from his Game 3 performance. In Game 3 he finished without a turnover. In Game 4 he had six costly turnovers. He was plagued by foul trouble and that took him out of his rhythm completely in the fourth quarter.
Grade: B-
Manu Ginobili
I guess Ginobili was just making a cameo appearance in Game 3. This game, he was back to struggling. The Spurs' second best playoff player can't be going 3-for-14 in huge playoff games. To his credit, he was at times aggressive and tried to fight through his struggles. He just didn't have it.
Grade: C-
Tony Parker
Parker led the team in scoring and assists (23 and 7) but his decision making in the fourth quarter could be called into question. He was trying to take over the game himself offensively, which given the cir stances of Ginobili struggling and Duncan in foul trouble could have been the right idea. But more times than not he led empty drives when the Spurs needed it the most.
Grade: C
Bruce Bowen
At times, Bowen's defense was very good. At other times, it was downright horrid. He made perhaps the worst defensive decision of his career in the third quarter when he left Raja Bell open in the corner to double team on a driving Kurt Thomas. Thomas found Bell with one on the shot clock and Bell buried a three. It was a horrible decision and Pop pulled him right away.
Grade: D+
Francisco Elson
Elson came off the bench and looked a little more comfortable than usual. He had a dunk, rebound and a steal in five minutes.
Grade: B+
Michael Finley
Finley was the only Spur to hit big shots in the fourth quarter. He hit a couple threes in the final stanza to keep the Spurs up. But it wasn't enough to prevent the pending collapse. On the other hand, Finley forced a lot of shots early that were unnecessary. He also missed a big jumper late in the game.
Grade: C+
Brent Barry
Barry played a second consecutive quality game. He led the Spurs in +/- for the second game in a row (+8). He's shown great determination and smarts and should have earned even more minutes in upcoming games. He had nothing to do with this loss.
Grade: A-
Fabricio Oberto
Oberto got his first start of the playoffs and played decent. He had some good moments and some crafty play. His defense wasn't spectacular, but he did an okay job on that end of the court. It was a pretty steady game from Oberto.
Grade: B
Robert Horry
Horry led the Spurs in the first half with four assists. He was being his typical smart self ... until he leveled Steve Nash at the end of the game. That was a horribly classless play that was uncalled for. That's not what the Spurs are about.
Grade: F
Jacque Vaughn
Vaughn hit his first two jumpers. That probably turned out to be a bad thing for the Spurs. It made Vaughn more aggressive and an aggressive Vaughn is a bad Vaughn. He's just not talented enough to do anything other than bring up the ball and pass it to someone else in the playoffs.
Grade: C
Pop
Horrible. Even if the Spurs won this game, it would have still been a horribly coached game by Pop. The magic touch he seemed to have in Game 3 was gone in Game 4. He would put Vaughn in the game at the exact wrong times and that would lead to runs by the Suns. But my major beefs with Pop come in the fourth quarter. When Duncan picks up his fifth foul, no way you sit him as long as Pop sat him. By doing so, Pop let the Suns get right back in the game and took Duncan out of any rhythm he might have had. What Pop should have done is put Duncan in the game and tell him to play his regular style. If he fouls out, he fouls out. You don't sit him until it's too late to regain momentum. On top of that, Pop had some horrid offensive ideas in the fourth. Calling plays for Finley and Ginobili late in the fourth? Did he forget that Duncan was on the court? Did he forget that Ginobili had been struggling all night? The cherry on top was wasting all his timeouts ... especially the last one. When you go down three with 30 something seconds to go and you only have one timeout, you NEVER take it at that point. You save that timeout until you need it the most. Taking the timeout at the point that they did essentially ended the game. In about ever way a coach can F up, Pop F'ed up.
Grade: F
This is what I've been waiting for... dead on!
Spot on once again...
Well said professor!!!
Pops pooped tonight!
Agreed. Poor execution and shot selection killed them in the 4th. I'm not sure why they ever switch Parker off Nash. Jacque Vaughn should never have a heat check. Ever. The Bonner and Elson lineup hustled their asses off. Plays coming off timeouts were terrible. I don't recall a single one that resulted in points or even a good shot.
Holy , criticism of Pop
The bonehead decision of the game by Pop was calling a timeout when we were up 5 with momentum, subs uting Vaughn for Parker, and watching Marion grab an easy steal from Vaughn and all momentum from the Spurs.
The only thing that topped that was taking a timeout and then running a Michael Finley fadeaway jumper out of the timeout. Give me a ing break.
damn we need a solid backup point
manu deserves a ing f
he made one layup all night
tp made some big plays late
did hit finely for those big threes
made his free throws in the fourth
HAD 6 REBOUNDS
I give him a b- or a c+
I give duncan a d
he only had 21 points and 6 turnovers
HE SUCKED ASS
This just made me realize how mad I really am.
Agree totally, especially Pop's grade.
I actually would upgrade Vaughn's grade because he made a couple of baskets. I've never seen him do that.
1995 the Spurs weren't ready yet. They still had some growing to do.
2001 was an annihilation by a far superior team.
2004 was a team in transition that got beat by a lucky shot.
2006 was tainted by the refs.
2007 is a got damn shame.
The only one i disagree with is Parkers grade. It should be at least a B. His defense on both Nash and especially Barb (who has been a non factor so far) is great.
Pop is to blame on this. Thats why i created that thread stating the rotation should be shortened. Take Vaughn and limit Bowens minutes would make a huge difference. Parker IMO is guarding Nash better especially on the pick and rolls.
Pops timeout in the third when they were rolling was stupid. He was over coaching, hence why we had no timeouts at then end.
I think Horry will get an A+ for his superman defense on Diaw and Amare for game 5.
Book it.
Holy , criticism of Pop
The bonehead decision of the game by Pop was calling a timeout when we were up 5 with momentum, subs uting Vaughn for Parker, and watching Marion grab an easy steal from Vaughn and all momentum from the Spurs.
The only thing that topped that was taking a timeout and then running a Michael Finley fadeaway jumper out of the timeout. Give me a ing break.
Truth
timvp is super mad. This is about the most mad I've seen him at the Spurs since we've been married
But I haven't said anythingtimvp is super mad. This is about the most mad I've seen him at the Spurs since we've been married
timvp is super mad. This is about the most mad I've seen him at the Spurs since we've been married
why be mad at the spurs. they were aggessive afterall
2007 le1995 the Spurs weren't ready yet. They still had some growing to do.
2001 was an annihilation by a far superior team.
2004 was a team in transition that got beat by a lucky shot.
2006 was tainted by the refs.
2007 is a got damn shame.
I don't know if you saw in the other thread where I talked about the third quarter. It looked like the Spurs could put the Suns away- defense was good- shots were falling- but when the dust cleared and the third quarter was over, the Spurs had only outscored the Suns by 3 and the lead was in single digits. I thought that was a bad sign.
Exactly.
The Suns were sitting there dead ready to be buried. Nash was frustrated and their entire team was playing like crap. Instead of burying them, the Spurs lacked concentration, effort and coaching smarts and managed to let the Suns hang in long enough to find a way to choke it away.
Sick.
Jacque Vaughn scared me for a few mins when he was making those shots... and then he let it get to his head. Spot on about Parker - he really made some plays (or didn't make the right plays) that let the Suns get back in the game in the 4th.
Also, well noted that Horry made a classess move from a guy that makes his living off being level-headed, consistent, playful, and clutch in the playoffs. If you read the other threads in this board, he simply "broke a rule" and "Nash's small stature made the foul seem worse than it was."
.. I haven't even watched the game (Hope to watch it tonight) as I have been working..
Damn.. now I am so totally devastated..
Spurs were shooting lights out in the 3rd and it looked like the Suns would fold as they have in the past... I think you have to say there was a good combo of Spurs mistakes and the Suns finally digging deep instead of falling over.
Oh and I'm sick of stupid azz Spurs fans getting overconfident after every win. Somehow this season, it's like the Spurs take on the thought process of their fans.
When the fans are acting over confident and start looking ahead, the Spurs this season ALWAYS have a letdown. The crowd sucked at the game. Spurs fans have sucked in general showing no respect for the Suns. This Suns are done, Suns are wilting, Suns are soft crap manages to seep into the Spurs themselves and they play like with no heart like we saw.
You jumped the gun and came to the msg board didn't you? Couldn't stay away and now you've just made your night worse, huh?
It's ok - I've been there before too.
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