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Man, i ve had this debate with Cornbread before. I think Mayweather would get killed. All Sherk would have to do is keep his head down, and get close enough to get his hands onb him. Then it would be game over
When Mayweather was asked about the UFC a few weeks ago...
"UFC ain't $hit," Mayweather said. "It ain't but a fad. Anyone can put a tattoo on their head and get in a street fight. These are guys who couldn't make it in boxing. So they do [mixed martial arts]. Boxing is the best sport in the world and it's here to stay."
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Dana White responded... ( http://sportsline.com/boxing/story/10104940 )
"You know, Floyd Mayweather just came out and said some stupid $hit about Chuck Liddell," White said.
Last week, Mayweather -- on a conference call to help promote his May 5 fight with Oscar De La Hoya -- disrespected the UFC and the sport of MMA in general, specifically UFC light heavyweight champion Liddell. Mayweather questioned whether the dominant Liddell could hang with a good boxer.
"We should put Liddell against a good heavyweight, under Mayweather Promotions," Mayweather said last week. "If Chuck wins, then I'll give him a million dollars out of my own pocket."
Dana White -- himself a former amateur boxer before heading up the most successful MMA promotion in U.S. history -- scoffed at Mayweather's challenge and called Mayweather's box-office value into question.
"(He said) he'd pay a million dollars if Chuck could hang with a heavyweight boxer," White said Monday. "How about if he pays a million dollars to see if a heavyweight boxer can fight MMA with Chuck Liddell? Or, even better, I'll put up a million dollars of my own money if Floyd Mayweather can sell more than 10 tickets without Oscar De La Hoya."
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and more from Floyd...and now Dana has upp'd the anty even more..
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_yl...yweather041807
Ultimate challenge for Mayweather?
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports
April 18, 2007
Floyd Mayweather stands almost 5-foot-9, weighs 154 pounds, has a 72-inch reach and can drop most mortals with a single swing of either hand.
He's fast, athletic and dodges punches as well as anyone, maybe ever. In 13 world le fights, he won all 13. His next one is May 5 in Las Vegas, this time as a junior middleweight, against Oscar de la Hoya, as big a fight as boxing has seen in years.
His nickname may be "Pretty Boy," but he is one bad, bad man.
On Cinco de Mayo we'll find out if Mayweather can beat de la Hoya – he's the heavy favorite – but could he beat a snarling, menacing, multi-skilled champion of the Ultimate Fighting Championship?
How about lightweight (155 pound) champ Sean Sherk, who may stand just 5-foot-6, may suffer from a distinct reach disadvantage, but as a mixed martial arts master is schooled in "interdisciplinary forms of fighting that include jiu-jitsu, judo, karate, boxing, kickboxing, wrestling."
Could the best pound-for-pound fighter in the old combat sport (boxing) handle a champion in the new combat sport (UFC)?
"UFC's champions can't handle boxing. That's why they are in UFC." Mayweather said Tuesday from Las Vegas during a break in training. "Put one of our guys in UFC and he'd be the champion. Any good fighter, he'd straight knock them out."
Dana White, a one-time boxer and boxing instructor and current UFC president, laughs at that.
"Boxers couldn't become mixed martial artists. That's why they're boxers," White countered Wednesday from England where UFC has an event Saturday. "They are one trick ponies. Our guys can do everything. They can box, they can kick box, they can wrestle and do jiu-jitsu. They are much better athletes than boxers."
Mayweather may be right, but he'd have to be. Any boxer stepping into the UFC octagon would have to knock his opponent out before the mixed martial artist got a hold of him, because once the fight fell to the mat, where things get nasty, the boxer is all but finished.
But, as Mayweather points out, the often (by boxing standards) clumsy and lead-with-their-face UFC guys would have to walk through a hail of vicious jabs, crosses and hooks to get there.
"Take Chuck Liddell," Mayweather said of the UFC's biggest star and light heavyweight champion (about 205 pounds). "Put him in the ring with a (boxer) who is just 10-0 and Chuck Liddell would get punished."
So you'd punish a UFC champion, too?
"Come on, man. What'd you think? Am I just 10-0?"
Mayweather is 37-0.
Liddell, with six inches and 50 pounds on Mayweather, isn't possible, but someone like Sherk, someone his size? With that insane reach, unreal punching power and by UFC rules aided by small, light 4-ounce gloves would Mayweather carve up Sherk instantly? Or would Sherk fight throughout the barrage and get Mayweather in a clutch no ref will save him from?
"They wouldn't have a chance to grapple (us) because we'd knock them out," Mayweather said in general. "(The fighter) would be knocked out before he even touched us."
Of course, without having their fists taped (UFC rule) a boxer might just break his hand on the first hard punch. Or perhaps no punch is strong enough to stop a charging opponent.
No one really knows what would happen at such an elite level.
"I used to talk like Floyd Mayweather when I was involved in boxing," White said. "I talked just like him, until I educated myself about this sport. These guys are amazing athletes, Floyd Mayweather is one of the best boxers ever, (and) Sean Sherk will whoop his ass in under two minutes."
"Any day that Mayweather wants to put his money and his ass where his mouth is, I'm ready," White continued. "If he wants to step up, let's do it."
First off, Mayweather was talking mostly in general about his disdain for UFC – "Boxing is an art, UFC is a fad." But Mayweather has spent almost as much time this spring ripping UFC as de la Hoya, who he seems to consider as little more than a matinee idol useful for only increasing the purse.
"I never knew popularity to win any fight," Mayweather said. "I'll beat him and come home and watch basketball."
The UFC, though, is clearly on his mind. He brought it up on his own Tuesday. Earlier this month he cracked that "anyone can put a tattoo on their head and get in a street fight."
Mayweather may be a talker – loquacious doesn't begin to describe the 30-year-old – but he isn't dumb. So maybe he is setting up another big pay day in the event he dusts de la Hoya and boxing has little to offer. Or maybe he just wants to promote a fight involving others.
Of course, the economics of UFC would have to change to get Mayweather to participate. UFC fighters make a fraction of top boxers. As part of the family business, Mayweather, his dad and his uncle handle all aspects of his career. For the de la Hoya fight he'll earn millions.
"Why would I go into a sport paying hundreds of thousands when I'm in a sport paying $20 million?" Mayweather said.
Mayweather knows full well, though, that the pay per view money is there for the taking on something like this, a battle that would be intriguing at nearly every level. White would just about kill for this to go down, preferably with Mayweather involved as a fighter.
"I'm willing to put together a fight for Sean Sherk and Floyd Mayweather with numbers that would make sense for Floyd," White said. "And I guarantee you he would not accept it. Floyd Mayweather would never fight in the UFC because he would get his head ripped off."
Yes, he would. But only if Sherk didn't get his head ripped off first.
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I wouldn't mind seeing what Mayweather could do vs Sherk...it would sell a ton of PPV's I would think...
and add James Toney to the list of boxers that are talking trash about the UFC...
http://www.boxingconfidential.com/articles.php?id=1256
The fact that they're talking about it means they're taking notice. At least Toney admits that most boxers wouldn't hang in an MMA match...
Man, i ve had this debate with Cornbread before. I think Mayweather would get killed. All Sherk would have to do is keep his head down, and get close enough to get his hands onb him. Then it would be game over
I do like how Tony said that 99% of boxers would get their ass whooped, but he is the one percent, good self confident. Randy would kill him though
Personally I think a boxer would have a hard time against a person that can use his arms as well as legs and that can grapple. Once missed punch by a boxer (dont give a who it is) and the fight is over. A grappler would make a boxer tap out period.
Yea, your right. A guy like Cro Cop would never even let a boxer get close enough to him to do any damage. The boxers legs would be destroyed
Right now I've got a picture in my head of Sherk laying the GnP on Mayweather, and there's a big old smile on my face. Thanks for making my day, Leonard
Right now I've got a picture in my head of Sherk laying the GnP on Mayweather, and there's a big old smile on my face. Thanks for making my day, Leonard
any time...
The problem with this whole boxing vs. mma is that they're two different sports. They may have similarities in the fact that the goal is to win a fight, but the rules are completely different. For Mayweather to make this happen, either he would have to compromise his years of training and fighting by fighting under mma rules or Sherk would have to compromise his years of training and fighing by fighting under boxing rules. Under boxing rules, Mayweather wins in the first round. Under mma rules, Sherk wins in the first round. Two TOTALLY different games.
Of course it's 2 totally different sports...
the point is that FMJ spouts off and says anybody can do it. Surely a world class boxer could, right?
Agreeed, I think most people realize its two different sports with different rules and skill sets, but yea, he shouldnt be spouting off if he isnt ready to back it upOf course it's 2 totally different sports...
the point is that FMJ spouts off and says anybody can do it. Surely a world class boxer could, right?
Mayweather spouting off is part of his marketing. He plays the bad guy that everyone wants to beat up but can't. Very much like Prince Nassem Hamed."Why would I go into a sport paying hundreds of thousands when I'm in a sport paying $20 million?" Mayweather said.
His MMA stuff can't be taken seriously. BTW, he's one fighter that I think would do better than what people think in MMA. Good strikers like Chuck Liddell are hard to get to the ground. Just ask o.
Chuck Liddel wrestled in college. His skill in wrestling makes him hard to take down, not his punching ability.
Well thats also due to Chucks awesome take down defense, not just his striking. Mayweather would never be able to prevent a take down
Yeah, I find his at ude pretty disrespectful and ignorant. Floyd needs to realize that it's not every fighter/martial artists goal to become a boxer.Of course it's 2 totally different sports...
the point is that FMJ spouts off and says anybody can do it. Surely a world class boxer could, right?
The whole "these are the guys who couldn't make it in boxing" argument is just ridiculous. For example, Matt Hughes grew up on the farm in Illinois. The guy liked to fight when he was growing up so he joined the wrestling team. There probably wasn't even a boxing gym anywhere near Hillsboro. He improves to the point were he becomes an all-american in college. What's the most logical transition from here for Matt to make money from his years of hard work and training? Becoming a boxer or fighting mma where he can actually put his years of training to use?
I realize he's just trying to create hype but it's annoying.
so his punching ability has nothing to do with him being hard to take down?
I take that back. He combines wrestling, evasiveness, and striking for TD defense. Mayweather obviously has the punching but he won't have the wrestling or the mma footwork.
very little
we'll have to disagree on that one. His ability to punch keeps fighters away from him and when they do attack he makes them pay the price.
His ability to strike is why he's the champ!
do I think MW would win a fight in MMA against top comp. because of his boxing, no. However, if he did decide to fight in MMA he would be the biggest name and best paid. For someone who can't sell 10 tickets according to Dana White, Dana sure wants to pay him a lot of money.
this MMA vs Boxing is as stupid as East Coast vs West Coast in Rap. Both sports are very good and very different.
Chuck has a great sprawl and is hard to keep down if you do get him there (due to his wrestling experience). Of course you DO have to get thru his strikes to try to take him down, but that's just a small part of his excellent overall takedown defense. There are plenty of great strikers out there that lose easily in MMA because they get taken down...
Dana wants to embarass Mayweather for running his mouth about the UFC...and sell some PPV's at the same time...
Agree. Just ironic Dana wants to pay a boxer multimillions of dollars.
in a boxing match the boxer would win
in a mma fight the mma fighter would win
it just depends on what rules the fighters are going on
Mayweather would knock Sherk out. Simple as that. Sherk wouldn't be able to grab him because he'd be asleep. There are many MMA champs that could beat their boxing counterpart, but this isn't one of those instances.
If you were correct, Cheick Kongo would have been able to beat the one dimensional and mediocre Carmelo Marrero.
Is being stupid a gimmick of yours, or genuine?
You remind me of the guy in your sig. Sherk has never been hit like Mayweather would hit him. Freaking Chuck Liddell puts people to sleep in the UFC! Just think what a world-class boxer would do!
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