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    Ian Mahinmi
    Birthdate: 11/5/86
    NBA Position: Power Forward
    Ht: 6-10
    Wt: 230
    Int Team: Pau Orthez
    Hometown: Rouen, France

    How acquired: Selected by the Spurs with the 28th pick in the first round of the 2005 NBA Draft.

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    i met him at the NBA draft in 2005 in NY, i have to post pics of him that I took, gotta find them. He was really friendly, and said at the time, that he wasnt gonna play for the spurs right away, which was of course true.

    If your in NY , go to the draft, its like $15 bucks GA, all the players end up chatting with the fans after they get picked since they go back up the aisles of the MSG theatre (not arena) and go to tv interviews.

    Ian was talking to Sean May, Bynum and co, and then he signs and talks to fans, almost all did except i remember Sean May being a to people. lol also Bynum was like 17-18 at the time, he was all star struck/ a kid with his mom. lol

    Gerald Green was all gangster, but friendly (texas htown kid) so he was cool.

    the best is when they announce a KNICK pick, since 90 percent of the people there are Knicks fans. its SO FUNNY what you hear. .NY fans are hilarious. When they took David Lee, after spurs took Ian, it was fun.

    try to go if ur in NY area. fun times.

    anyhow, aout Ian

    He is really tall and lanky. DAMN IM A GREAT SCOUT! lol

    I think he needs to ride the IR, this year like Butler and white did.
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    Let's try to keep this to background/updates on Mahinmi, at least at the start. Thanks.

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    Mahinmi won't be back with Pau Orthez next year. Pau Orthez coach (who was very close to Spurs) has been fired after having said to Pau owner "you can kiss my ass" during a press conference.

    In the french press, it's said that he will play for Spurs (or Austin) next year except in one article where they said that he will either sign with Spurs or an euro top team that plays the euroleague.

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    Spurs' 2005 draft pick Mahinmi remains intriguing work in progress

    Web Posted: 07/29/2006 11:37 PM CDT

    Johnny Ludden
    Express-News Staff Writer

    Ian Mahinmi was 18 years old, 6 feet, 10 inches tall, all limbs and potential.

    "Coltish" was how one scout described Mahinmi after seeing him for the first time in France. The Spurs had their own name for him: John Mason.

    Not wanting to tip off their interest in Mahinmi before the 2005 NBA draft, the Spurs gave him an alias. "John Mason" sounded like a basketball player, so the name stuck. Anyone eavesdropping wouldn't know the difference.

    Or so the Spurs thought. With the draft only two weeks away and the Spurs in the middle of the NBA Finals, general manager R.C. Buford opened the Sports section of the San Antonio Express-News and felt his stomach drop. "When you're talking 'Detroit basketball,'" read the headline stretched across the top of the page, "you're talking John Mason."

    Buford relaxed after reading further. The story profiled the Pistons' public-address announcer, who, in addition to popularizing the chant "DEE-TROIT BAS-KET-BALL," also happened to share the same name as the one the Spurs selected for Mahinmi.

    "All I saw was 'John Mason'" Buford said, "and thought somebody had found us out."


    (Douglas C. Pizac / Associated Press)
    Ian Mahinmi, shooting over the Mavercks' D.J. Mbenga during the Rocky Mountain Revue, showed promise this summer.


    A handful of teams did learn shortly before the draft of the Spurs' intentions to take Mahinmi at No. 28. But even more were surprised when NBA commissioner David Stern announced the pick. As Stern waited, league officials scrambled to make a placard for Mahinmi. The holdup: Mahinmi wasn't among the 128 players listed in the league's 216-page draft guide.

    Neither was John Mason.

    More seasoning

    Now 19, Mahinmi, still 6-10 and now 210 pounds, isn't quite the international man of mystery he was a year ago. He used the first 21/2 games of his recent summer-league debut to reveal why the Spurs coveted him. His performance in the next 21/2 games showed why he'll be spending at least one more season in France.

    Though Mahinmi's stats weren't impressive in the opener at the Rocky Mountain Revue, he ran the floor well, challenged shots and was aggressive with the ball.

    "He had a presence," said Spurs assistant coach Mike Budenholzer, who headed the team. "He looked like he knew he belonged out there."

    In the next game against Seattle, Mahinmi produced 13 points, eight rebounds and two blocks. After watching him total 14 points and seven rebounds in 13 first-half minutes against Atlanta, one Spurs official asked if David Robinson ever looked so good at 19.

    Had he known Mahinmi would collect five fouls in nine minutes in the second half, he would have kept the question to himself. Repeatedly outmuscled for position by Hawks rookie forward Shelden Williams, Mahinmi countered by holding and pushing. Once, he clubbed Williams as they battled for a rebound.

    Mahinmi's low point came the next day against Philadelphia. Unable to move 265-pound forward Harold Jamison, he committed eight fouls in 17 minutes.

    Mahinmi improved the next two games, though neither performance matched his early efforts. He averaged 8.3 points and a team-high 5.7 rebounds in the six games, but also totaled 38 fouls, seven more than any other player in the six-team league.

    "For me, it's just about playing hard and being smart," Mahinmi said. "I don't want to do same mistake two times."

    Even after watching Mahinmi's worst games, one scout thought he would have been a lottery pick in this year's draft. Others weren't as complimentary, wondering if Mahinmi will ever be strong enough to compete in the NBA.

    Spurs officials were surprised Mahinmi struggled more in his later games than in his earlier ones. But given that he was the second-youngest player in Utah, had never faced any type of NBA compe ion and had less than six years of experience playing the sport, they were fairly pleased with his performance.

    "Whether he plays great or whether he plays poorly," said Spurs assistant general manager Sam Presti, "we have to remember this is a process. It's all about development with him."

    The right fit

    The son of a Jamaican mother and a father from Benin, a small country in West Africa, Mahinmi grew up in Rouen, about an hour's drive from Paris.

    His mother taught preschool and his father worked as a diplomat of sorts, helping African immigrants transition to France. Neither parent, however, was unusually tall; those genes came from his 6-6 African grandfather.

    Mahinmi's older brother played soccer well enough to nearly make Jamaica's national team for the 1998 World Cup. Soccer also had been Mahinmi's sport of choice. Basketball, however, chose him.

    Mahinmi was attending middle school when the coach of a nearby basketball program saw the 6-foot 14-year-old towering over his classmates. It was about that same time another French teenager (Tony Parker) began preparing for his first NBA season.

    Within a couple of years, Mahinmi was playing for the youth team in Le Havre, a port city about 60 miles west of Rouen. Presti first saw him three years ago, while scouting a tournament in Evry. Mahinmi spent much of the night on the bench, but even then he looked intriguing.

    Mahinmi made more of an impression at the 2004 Under-18 European Championships in Zaragoza, Spain. Most of the scouts had come to see Johan Petro, who would go on to be a first-round pick of Seattle. Mahinmi, however, played more than expected because of an injury to one of his teammates. He also played well.

    Presti liked what he saw and marked Mahinmi as a player the Spurs should continue to follow. Other scouts did the same.

    "After that," Mahinmi said, "everybody started talking about me."

    U.S. colleges also became interested. Gonzaga saw Mahinmi as a potential replacement for French forward Ronny Turiaf, who was about to enter his final season. Though a friend of Turiaf's, Mahinmi decided instead to join Le Havre's professional team.

    Still, Mahinmi didn't plan to enter the 2005 draft. The few teams scouting him projected him as a second-round pick, if that.

    Buford, however, had already made his own trip to France to watch Mahinmi. Like Presti, he saw the potential. Mahinmi, though raw, was athletic, aggressive — and young.

    Spurs coach Gregg Popovich needed only a couple minutes of game film to be convinced. After watching Mahinmi post on the right block, spin around his defender and throw down a two-handed dunk, Popovich stopped the tape.

    "That's good enough for me," he said.

    The Spurs had been looking for an athletic big man since David Robinson retired. Inquiries about Chicago's Tyson Chandler never went anywhere. Gambling a late first-round draft pick on a 6-10, 18-year-old with some upside, the Spurs decided, was worth the risk.

    Spurs officials told Mahinmi's agent, Bouna N'Diaye, they would take Mahinmi if he stayed in the draft. N'Diaye relayed the news to his client. Mahinmi's initial reaction: "Wow!"

    "Then he said, 'OK, let me think about it,'" N'Diaye said. "I told him he could have 24 hours, 'til noon on Friday. He called me at exactly noon on Friday."

    Although another solid season at Le Havre could have turned Mahinmi into a lottery pick, he and N'Diaye both liked the idea of joining the Spurs. Mahinmi didn't know Parker personally, but he knew he was French, which was good enough. He also knew about the Spurs' successful history with international players.

    As a result, N'Diaye didn't make film of Mahinmi easily available to other teams. Commitments to Le Havre prevented Mahinmi from playing in that year's Nike Hoop Summit with Europe's other top young players. Nor did he participate in the Reebok camp, another must-watch event for scouts.

    "What mattered to us," N'Diaye said, "was to be with the right team, the right system. The pick didn't matter."

    Worthwhile project

    The Spurs weren't the only team interested in Mahinmi. One Western Conference scout said he tried before the draft to sell his team on taking Mahinmi in the second round, but couldn't find enough film of him.

    Danny Ferry also helped scout Mahinmi as the Spurs' director of basketball operations. After Cleveland hired him as general manager shortly before the draft, Ferry left with the understanding he wouldn't divulge the Spurs' plans to his new team.

    So it came as a surprise to Ferry when he saw Mahinmi's name listed on the Cavaliers' draft board among the candidates the team was considering taking with its second-round pick. When the Spurs took Mahinmi, Cleveland officials looked at Ferry. Ferry shrugged.

    All of this, of course, could be much to do about nothing. If Mahinmi proved anything in Salt Lake City, it was that he's going to have to get stronger to have any impact in the NBA. Most of his rebounds came from running down the ball after it had been tipped. Rarely, did he go up in a crowd and take one.

    "He's skinny, but (Dallas' Dirk) Nowitzki is also skinny and he knows how to create space to get a defensive rebound," said a Western Conference coach, who watched Mahinmi in Utah. "If (Mahinmi) can learn to do that, (the Spurs) might have something."

    An Eastern Conference scout said Mahinmi looked how one would expect a 19-year-old to look — inconsistent. The scout liked that Mahinmi had active hands on defense. But he also thought Mahinmi was thinking too much — instead of reacting — when he received the ball in the post.

    "He needs more development," the scout said. "But he will get better because he's not afraid."

    Mahinmi proved that when Dallas' first-round pick, Maurice Ager, threw down a dunk so vicious it sent the Spurs forward staggering backward into a courtside table. The play brought the Mavericks — and most of the fans — to their feet, but Mahinmi looked unfazed. On the ensuing possession, he quickly called for the ball and drove inside to draw a foul.

    Spurs officials were merely happy Mahinmi tried to challenge Ager's dunk. In Europe, where the game is populated by jump shooters, he rarely gets the opportunity.

    "If you had walked away and seen him play the way he did in practices and the first 21/2 games, we would have been thrilled to death," Buford said. "Whatever happens, we need to maintain patience and balance and a long-range projection."

    Though he's returning to France for another year, Mahinmi will move up a level in compe ion. After averaging 9.7 points and 5.2 rebounds for Le Havre last season — numbers good enough to earn an All-Star selection — he signed a contract with Pau-Orthez. In addition to being one of the best teams in France, Pau also plays in the Euroleague, affording Mahinmi the opportunity to go against many of Europe's top players, including two of the Spurs' other former draft picks — Luis Scola and Robertas Javtokas.

    Mahinmi's new coach, Gordon Herbert, already has a good relationship with the Spurs, having previously assisted their summer-league team. The strength and nutrition program in Pau also is more developed than in Le Havre. Mahinmi, who has been listed as weighing anywhere from 210-230 pounds, said he didn't have much time to lift weights last season because he was too busy working on his game. That won't be the case this season. The Spurs plan to have a strength coach visit to monitor his progress.

    Mahinmi wants this to be his last year in Europe. The Spurs also would like to get him into their program as soon as possible.

    "But he can't assume he's going to be ready to come over," Budenholzer said. "If he works diligently, both in the weight room and on the court, it's very reasonable to think he can come over and be a part of the team."

    "Being a part of the team" is different from "being a contributor." Even if Mahinmi joins the Spurs for the 2007-08 season, team officials consider it a reach to assume he'll have a significant impact in his first year. Indiana All-Star forward Jermaine O'Neal went straight from high school to the NBA — then spent his first four years sitting on the end of the bench in Portland.

    The Spurs are optimistic Mahinmi won't have a long learning curve. One of his former Le Havre coaches nicknamed him "The Sponge" because he quickly absorbed everything they taught him. The Spurs saw some of the same traits this month: After Budenholzer cursed at him in practice for failing to protect the rim, Mahinmi picked up his effort.

    Mahinmi also has a good sense of humor, which is important when playing for Popovich. When Mahinmi arrived for practice the day after France lost to Italy in the World Cup, one of the coaches walked over and gave him a head-butt.

    Said Mahinmi: "All I can say is, what about the U.S.? Was it just like a little trip (to Germany) for them?"

    Language also doesn't seem to be too much of a problem. Asked if he spent any time with Parker, Mahinmi nodded. "I meet him at his crib."

    Mahinmi doesn't have a crib yet or an NBA contract. Unlike Parker, he can walk the streets of France — and San Antonio — without being recognized.

    Ian Mahinmi? John Mason? For now, they're still one and the same.
    San Antonio Express-News, July 26, 2006

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    Ian Mahinmi
    -How to say it: YAHN mah-IN-mee
    -Position: Power forward
    -Size: 6-foot-10, 210 pounds
    -Born: Nov. 5, 1986, in Rouen, France
    -Fast facts: Spent past two years with Le Havre in France's top professional league ... Averaged 9.7 points and 5.2 rebounds last season ... Signed to play for Pau-Orthez in France this season ... Selected 28th overall by the Spurs in the 2005 NBA draft ... Averaged 8.3 points, 5.7 rebounds and 6.3 fouls for Spurs' summer-league team at Rocky Mountain Revue ... A former volleyball player.
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    Team officials will evaluate Ian Mahinmi, their 2005 first-round pick, in the summer leagues to determine whether he is worthy of a roster spot next season. They also have the rights to Argentine forward Luis Scola, who remains one of the best players in Europe, but they might not have room for him if Oberto and Horry return.
    San Antonio Express-News, June 17, 2007

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    Danny Ferry = good people

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    For yesterdays Euroleague game Pau-Orthez against Zalgiris Kaunas, some NBA scouts were present in the stands of the Palais des Sports. Unfortunately they did not see a great game, but a least it was intense. Besides others, Memphis and Chicago have been present to see Ian Mahinmi finally having an interesting game, especially in defense, where he showed great speed on the help defense and on double teams. He finished the game with 6pts (100%) 3rebs and 2blks.
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    In France, there are some rumors that Alexis Ajinca will move to Le Havre for one season according to the French newspaper l'Equipe. Ajinca would then play together with the other French seven footer prospect Romain Duport. The newspaper also reports that Ian Mahinmi will very probably join the San Antonio Spurs already next season. Mahinmi also got selected for the French National team roster for the Eurobasket 2007 in Spain.
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    Ian Mahinmi

    Ian turned 19 last November and checks in as the youngest member of our overseas contingent. At close to 6-11, Ian has enjoyed a solid developmental year with Le Havre of the French Pro A league. He has made great strides this year in all statistical categories, but our focus with Ian rests entirely on building habits and not on his game-by-game production. He is working with great diligence on all aspects of his program, nutrition, mental preparation, film study and weight training. Ian understands how much work lies ahead of him and has accepted the challenge to work step by step to meet his goals.

    Ian is part of a budding future for the French National team, which includes our own Tony Parker, Phoenix's Boris Diaw, Golden State's Mickael Pietrus, Seattle's Johan Petro and Mickael Gelebale, and the Lakers' Ronny Turiaf. Understanding how progressive the French National Team is, and knowing their vision for the future begins with chemistry and youth, this group will become very familiar at International basketball events in the future.

    This season Ian is averaging 10.1 points and 5.4 rebounds in 20 minutes of action with Le Havre.
    Presti's update on Spurs.com, March 28, 2006

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    Really, Ian already? Thats pretty sweet, maybe Duncan can teach him some stuff.

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    I always thought that Ian should have played this season or Spurs should not have drafted him.

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    Well, they drafted him so young and it looks like he'll be joining the team at age 20, so no worries.

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    He could already know the system going into next season. Oh well, better late than never.

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    Yeah, he should just retire now.

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    Yeah, he should just retire now.
    Relax fellow, . . . you are too literal.

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    God I hope so.

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    Eh, I hope he's good enough to make the active roster.

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    This season Ian is averaging 10.1 points and 5.4 rebounds in 20 minutes of action with Le Havre.

    That was last year, this season Ian was playing for Pau-Orthez !

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    My greatest hope for him if he does come to the Spurs next season is that he continues to develop his defensive game and can start working towards becoming a future defensive great in the low post. He'll need to bulk up and keep growing, but at 20 that's very possible. With his length and athletic ability he can be really good on the defensive side of the ball well before his offensive abilities catch up. That could make him a contributor at or around 21 or 22 years old, which would be great.

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    6.3 fouls per game, damn is that possible?
    I know in Summer league you get like 8 or 9 fouls per game.

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    some of you are unbelievably stupid when it comes to age and a pro basketball player.

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    6.3 fouls per game, damn is that possible?
    It's frog math.


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