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Since they said that they might trade one of their 1st rounders is because they would be in the young team category, they are probably expecting a veteran in return.
Just saw this tonight.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...a_1st_rounder/
Atlanta Looking To Trade A 1st Rounder?
21st June, 2007 - 11:24 am
Atlanta Journal-Cons ution -
Picking Mike Conley No. 3 if no sufficient trade offer comes "could happen," Atlanta head coach Mike Woodson said on Wednesday.
"But it's hard to say where we're going with that 3 spot. We've got options. My thing is I want someone who can play right now, contribute."
Javaris Crittenton and Acie Law worked out for the Hawks on Wednesday, with Conley coming in on Monday.
The Hawks may trade at least one first-round pick because, "To add two young draft picks will keep us in that category of young team," Woodson said. [READ]
Since they said that they might trade one of their 1st rounders is because they would be in the young team category, they are probably expecting a veteran in return.
Beno and a bag of stale ("veteran") nachos.
I could see Atlanta using Beno.
However, they have a lot of swings, and I do not see them wanting Barry.
Bonner and Beno, along with the 28th?
Nah, too good to be true.
The 28th, 58th, Elson, and Brent for the 11th pick.I'd have a heart attack if that happened.
I say swap 1st round pics, give them Barry, Beno and rights to Scola.
We get one of their swing men and one of their 1st rounders.
can the spurs even trade bonner??? isnt he a free agent..or would a sign and trade work?
which swing?? childress? or josh smith..or did u have somebody else in mind?
Can't sign-and-trade before the draft because the signing period doesn't start until July
Uhhh...Billy Knight is stupid, but he's not THAT stupid.
shiit ill take salim stoudamire...that boy can shoot the lights out!!
do u have any idea how many wings they have??? u cant have 4 wings..and they are all very young..joe johnson, marvin williams, josh smith, josh childress...dog cant keep all of them forever
Atlanta needs a legitimate starting PG (which they could've had in Chris Paul or Deron Williams, but that's another story) and they need a low-post scorer/defender (because as decent as Zaza has been, he ain't that guy).
I guess Scola qualifies for low-post offensive threat, but he's not very big and not a great defender....at that point, the Hawks would probably be better off drafting Horford.
The guy I keep coming back to in my head is Marcus Camby, but I just can't see what the package would be for him...
I know Atlanta has contacted Toronto about Jose Calderon, but they do not seem to be willing to offer anything close to what Toronto would want back. They tried to trade for him in February, too, but to no avail.
well they have speedy claxton and tyrone lue who are pretty good pgs but not a future pg...but u atlanta cannot keep all of those wings..its impossible they all deserve or want to start sometime..we can get a back up pg from them either those two or stoudamire
I live here....so I know what they've got.
And even if you say it's impossible, and I agree that it's never going to get them anywhere near a championship....that doesn't mean they won't keep on attempting to do it.
They start one of Lue/Claxton/A. Johnson at the 1, Joe Johnson at the 2, Josh Smith at the 3, Marvin Williams at the 4, and Zaza at the 5. Frequently, JJ plays the point and Josh Childress plays the 2 spot. Shelden hardly got any blow and there would literally be times when this was the starting 5...
It's rediculous and it stunts their growth as players having to play out of position and get such sporadic minutes....but that didn't stop Billy Knight from drafting them all and it didn't stop Mike Woodson from playing to the hand he was dealt...
But just because it's not ideal doesn't mean the Hawks will give up one of their wings for crap....
Here's a reasonable trade:
Devin Harris/Desagana Diop for Josh Childress and #11
or
Luke Ridnour/Johan Petro for Childress and #11
or the biggun...
Zach Randolph/Jarrett Jack for Josh Smith and #3
Claxton is a MAJOR bust for all the money that he's being paid. Chalk it up as another bad decision by the Billy Knight and the Hawks FO. Their need for a PG got so bad that they traded the #34 pick in one of the deeper drafts in league history to Dallas for Anthony FRIGGIN Johnson. Ahh Billy Knight...
Tyronn Lue has actually been a bright spot for this team. He seems to reach the young guys and provide a scoring punch of the bench....which is why it wouldn't suprise me to see him traded before the draft
Seriously, the Spurs don't have anything the Hawks would want...especially for what you're asking in return.
Yeah, that would be awesome. I think they would consider it, too. Although I don't know if we want to give up Elson, having a shot at Acie Law would be insanity.The 28th, 58th, Elson, and Brent for the 11th pick.
I'd do just about anything to get Brewer, but I know that's not gonna happen. Still, if we somehow managed to bag a top 5 pick and got that young long SF... man... I would just dance up and down the block, naked.
You can all take pictures and then burn them if it happens.
A decent backup PG and an athletic big man along with two picks to get deeper young talent for one pick they aren't totally in love with, since they want a vet?
The Hawks have never lived down passing over two franchise PGs in Chris Paul and Deron Williams. They cannot afford to make the same mistake three times. They MUST take Mike Conley, Jr.Claxton is a MAJOR bust for all the money that he's being paid. Chalk it up as another bad decision by the Billy Knight and the Hawks FO. Their need for a PG got so bad that they traded the #34 pick in one of the deeper drafts in league history to Dallas for Anthony FRIGGIN Johnson. Ahh Billy Knight...
Tyronn Lue has actually been a bright spot for this team. He seems to reach the young guys and provide a scoring punch of the bench....which is why it wouldn't suprise me to see him traded before the draft
They'll take Horford and the best PG left at #11 (probably Crittenton).
And yet the word is that they are in love with Javaris Crittenton (a local GTech prospect)...who is by far the most raw project-type of the lottery PGs.
And, as previously stated, they've tried repeatedly to grab another PG....first it was Luke Ridnour, then Jarrett Jack, now Jose Calderon.
Billy Knight is the WORST GM IN SPORTS...and yes I know Isaiah hasn't been fired!
They're asking for what they feel would be a legitimate starting PG...in Jarrett Jack, Luke Ridnour, Jose Calderon. Something tells me Beno Udrih doesn't exactly belong in that company. They already have an overpaid Speedy Claxton, Anthony Johnson, and Tyronn Lue to fill that "backup PG" role....not to mention that Joe Johnson runs the point for a good 10MPG.
As far as Elson, I'll give you that. The Hawks FO does love athleticism and is trying to run a frenetic, fast-paced offense...but he, along with a swap of picks, wouldn't be enough.
And I would normally say that Brent Barry's veteran presence and expiring contract would be positives, but here's the deal....I don't exactly think Brent would resonate with these players. No offense but a middle-aged white guy isn't going to have much to say to young 20-something black kids. And here's the more tragic part....that $6M the Hawks would pick up in 2008 would go to waste because no good player wants to come here...it's really sad. Eddy Curry could've had a MAX deal, but he spurned the meet-n-greet and skipped town before the Hawks could even make a pitch.
Trust me...I've seen enough in my time here to appreciate Spurs basketball for the rest of my life....
All of these Spurs-related trades to get the #3 picks are terrible for the Hawks, I wouldn't see them doing any of them. All of a sudden, Beno's some super back-up PG that just needs some playing time, and the Hawks swings all just dropped in value just because they have too many of them...
None of the available PGs right now are worth it for the Hawks, except for Billups, and he's getting up there in age. I'd rather see the Hawks sit tight and draft Conley at #3, or get Crittenton at #11 (I go to Tech, this would be awesome for me, since the Falcons couldn't get CJ, =/). Jarret Jack, Luke Ridnour I don't see as being better than Crittenton, let alone Conley in the future. I'm still unsure about Devin Harris, he'll definitely help, but in that proposed trade scenario, I feel the Hawks would be giving up too much, and I don't see the Mavs trading away their PG of the future.
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