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    Texas Report Shows Toll Roads Not Needed
    And people still don't get it... toll roads aren't designed to find a way to pay for the roads, they are designed to remove the economic externality in place with ANY road and eliminate overcrowding problems that naturally occur when any good is effectively free to consume.

    Get a clue.

    The animations look good, and for personal reasons I'm glad all lanes are at grade around NW Military.

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    Mrs.Useruser666 SpursWoman's Avatar
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    That looks like a total nightmare.

    I live on 1604 (the access road is the only way out of my neighborhood so far) ... so as long as there's a way for me not to have to pay a toll just to go get a gallon of milk, I don't really care. Although the construction will definitely suck ass for a long, long time.

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    well, from having driven on the toll roads in Orange County, CA--they're a godsend!

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    That looks like a total nightmare.

    I live on 1604 (the access road is the only way out of my neighborhood so far) ... so as long as there's a way for me not to have to pay a toll just to go get a gallon of milk, I don't really care. Although the construction will definitely suck ass for a long, long time.
    That's my concern. If there's an affordable option to where I don't have to stop at booths and/or have a ton of change on me, I'm fine.

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    That's my concern. If there's an affordable option to where I don't have to stop at booths and/or have a ton of change on me, I'm fine.
    You'll eventually break down and get the tag that goes on your windshield.

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    You'll eventually break down and get the tag that goes on your windshield.
    I'll pre-order the damn tag now.

    I was on 1604 yesterday and started thinking about the tolls. I understand the benefits and drawbacks, but think it's a good idea for the way this area is expanding.

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    Traffic on 1604 goes from about 60-80mph then all of a sudden you gotta slam on the brakes and swerve because at either, I35N/S, NACO, GOLD CANYON, 281, STONE OAK PRKWY, BLANCO, NW MILITARY, I10, BAB , HAUSMAN, BANDERA exits they are congested.

    Toll roads are needed RIGHT NOW.

    Please, please, please!

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    Do "anti-toll" folks realize that these roads WILL NOT BE EXPANDED unless they toll them?

    This is the only way it's going to happen.

    I know every San Antonio native wants this to remain a "small town", but bad news, it won't stay that way and you need to expand.

    They celebrate when companies like Toyota come here but then complain when the "small town" feel goes missing.

    San Antonio is so full of hypocrites it's unbelievable.

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    Mrs.Useruser666 SpursWoman's Avatar
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    I know every San Antonio native wants this to remain a "small town", but bad news, it won't stay that way and you need to expand.
    Eh, I'm pretty sure it's mostly about the money.

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    Eh, I'm pretty sure it's mostly about the money.

    Oh Good God, fine, then they need to raise taxes throughout Bexar County in order to pay for an expansion that won't be tolled.

    I'm sure the folks that don't plan on and never use northern 1604 would love to do that.


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    honestly

    people FOR tollroads are LESS or MORE likely to watch 24?

    people FOR tollroads are LESS or MORE likely to purchase a vehicle with OnStar*?

    people FOR tollroads are LESS or MORE likely to be pro-war?

    more
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    honestly

    people FOR tollroads are LESS or MORE likely to watch 24?

    people FOR tollroads are LESS or MORE likely to purchase a vehicle with OnStar*?

    people FOR tollroads are LESS or MORE likely to be pro-war?

    more
    more
    more

    I have no idea what any of the above examples has to do with toll roads.

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    anything else we can pay extra for to use, that tax money goes to already?

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    Believe. hello13's Avatar
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    who cares if they take pic of my plates??????????????????

    what does that matter???

    they can look at my lis. plate all day long if they want to

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    anything else we can pay extra for to use, that tax money goes to already?

    I'm not even sure what that sentence means?

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    Do "anti-toll" folks realize that these roads WILL NOT BE EXPANDED unless they toll them?

    This is the only way it's going to happen.

    I know every San Antonio native wants this to remain a "small town", but bad news, it won't stay that way and you need to expand.

    They celebrate when companies like Toyota come here but then complain when the "small town" feel goes missing.

    San Antonio is so full of hypocrites it's unbelievable

    How about using the money were already taxed, to go twords it?

    I know, hard to fathom, taxes being used correctly.

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    factor that in with foreign ownership and the north american union, rick perry- toll roads are neocons dream

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    I'm not even sure what that sentence means?

    taxes aren't used to build and maintain roads?

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    Toll Roads Are Needed!!!!!!!!!!

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