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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19548613/

    You know, I kind of agree with him. Modesty and class doesn't exist anymore. It is all about showboating and flaunting. Not all players are like that but lots of them are.

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    may the force kick yo ass ObiwanGinobili's Avatar
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    I totally agree with his comments.
    most people will be just be mad because he is not an American and is saying this (like it;s ok to comment about your own, but not comment about others mentality) but he;s speaking the truth.
    The whole show-off wealth, bling bling, Cribs, look! look! at me ! see what I got ! it;s bigger and shinier than all the rest! at ude is pervasive and destructive.

    Props to him.

    thast why I am a Spurs fan.

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    Copy and paste this cornbread's Avatar
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    Sounds like Matt Bonner with an at ude. I like it!

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    He said he bought a car himself so what the ?

    Why make millions of dollars if you aren't going to spend some of it?

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    He said he bought a car himself so what the ?

    Why make millions of dollars if you aren't going to spend some of it?
    Most will be broke 5 years after retiring.

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    He said he bought a car himself so what the ?

    Why make millions of dollars if you aren't going to spend some of it?
    He's not criticizing people for making money.

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    But he is for spending it, why make money if you aren't even allowed to spend it?

    Most will be broke, since when did he become an economics professor, since when does he know how much guys save, or donate to charities, etc?

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    Bogut is funny. He comes across very arrogant, but it's kind of just how many Australians are. We tend to tell each other how it is, and that doesn't go down when we tell people of other cultures how it is.

    Anyway, I don't know if I agree with him or not, I can't be bothered deeply thinking about it. But it's funny to read his quotes.

    Related note, he is a very good player, who is not being utilised correctly in Milwaukee. I'd love to see him on another team where some of the offense is run through him, he is an incredible passer. He'd fit the triangle in LA very well.

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    But he is for spending it, why make money if you aren't even allowed to spend it?

    Most will be broke, since when did he become an economics professor, since when does he know how much guys save, or donate to charities, etc?
    I think he's criticizing the NBA lifestyle, ostentatious displays of wealth, having no social conscience, etc. He didn't call out anybody by name.

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    He said he bought a car himself so what the ?

    Why make millions of dollars if you aren't going to spend some of it?
    Many Americans think wealth is the possession of material luxuries.

    This plays right into the hands of those who understand how to ac ulate real, sustainable wealth. They separate the fools from their money, in exchange for trinkets.

    You don't have wealth when you buy a Benz or move into a mansion. You have wealth when you have so much money that it makes its own money.

    The smart athletes have enough capital when they retire to be businessmen and investors.

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    I think he's criticizing the NBA lifestyle, ostentatious displays of wealth, having no social conscience, etc. He didn't call out anybody by name.
    If more athletes could achieve real, sustainable wealth, this also would increase their leverage for social action.

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    If more athletes could achieve real, sustainable wealth, this also would increase their leverage for social action.
    Seriously, give me a million dollars, and with the right financial planning, I'll turn it into $10 million. I'd get nice things for sure, but I wouldn't blow it all so I could show off something ridiculous on Cribs.

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    If more athletes could achieve real, sustainable wealth, this also would increase their leverage for social action.
    Except I think that not a lot of athletes give a about social issues. For every Etan Thomas or Adonal Foyle, there's a Michael Jordan, who refused to endorse Jesse Helm's opponent for Senate, because as he said "Republicans buy shoes too." Or LeBron James, who refused to sign the Darfur pe ion, because Phil Knight owns his ass. Interesting that it's the fringe guys like Thomas, Foyle and Ira Newble who are taking stands and not the guys who have so much money they could never spend it all even if they tried.

    LeBron is building an amusement park/casino for his residence, for god's sake. I think this is exactly what Bogut is talking about, even though he didn't mention or had LeBron in mind specifically. He doesn't respect the game enough to work on his flaws, he wants to be a "global icon," whatever that means. LeBron has the talent to be the best player to ever lace up sneakers, but right now he's too distracted by all the side bull .

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    Give me a million dollars and I'd never work another day in my life.

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    Give me a million dollars and I'd never work another day in my life.
    You mean working for someone, right? Managing your portfolio isn't exactly a leisure activity.

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    I don't know... I feel like I could live off the interest of some pretty low-risk mutual funds.

    Can't say I've given it much thought.

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    This is true that since I've been living in the States I constantly want money, which is a bad thing........I guess. I mean I'm ing buying 2 lotto tickets every week. LMAO

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    If he doesn't like it then he should take his ass back to Australia. I don't necessarily disagree with Bogut, but what's next? Damir Markota is going to start saying McDonald's sucks and Bill Gates is evil? If you don't like the culture or the state of the NBA, then don't be a hypocrite and go back home.

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    If he doesn't like it then he should take his ass back to Australia. I don't necessarily disagree with Bogut, but what's next? Damir Markota is going to start saying McDonald's sucks and Bill Gates is evil? If you don't like the culture or the state of the NBA, then don't be a hypocrite and go back home.
    That doesn't make any sense. If I criticize some aspect of American culture, do I then have to enter some kind of self-imposed exile?

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    If he doesn't like it then he should take his ass back to Australia. I don't necessarily disagree with Bogut, but what's next? Damir Markota is going to start saying McDonald's sucks and Bill Gates is evil? If you don't like the culture or the state of the NBA, then don't be a hypocrite and go back home.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't the USA done that a lot? Criticize and give their opnions on how other people run their culture and country? And even gone to the extreme to reform them to their own ideals?

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    That doesn't make any sense. If I criticize some aspect of American culture, do I then have to enter some kind of self-imposed exile?
    According to right-wing s, yes.

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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    If he doesn't like it then he should take his ass back to Australia. I don't necessarily disagree with Bogut, but what's next? Damir Markota is going to start saying McDonald's sucks and Bill Gates is evil? If you don't like the culture or the state of the NBA, then don't be a hypocrite and go back home.
    awww thats nice! haven't you ever heard about freedom of expression Einstein? its only what your nation is built on. Seriously, some of you folks should start investigating some more on that whole "Land of the free" thing you like to throw around... its not the land of the free from criticism that's for damn sure.

    and what he's saying is entirely true, specially in the NBA. Everyone knows it, and those who claim they don't are lying

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    awww thats nice! haven't you ever heard about freedom of expression Einstein? its only what your nation is built on. Seriously, some of you folks should start investigating some more on that whole "Land of the free" thing you like to throw around... its not the land of the free from criticism that's for damn sure.

    and what he's saying is entirely true, specially in the NBA. Everyone knows it, and those who claim they don't are lying
    I realize that, but if you were so much in disagreement with the way things were done, you'd most likely leave. Like I said, I don't disagree with the man, and I certainly respect his right to express himself, but really, if he's going to criticize the league and the people who play in it as being too vain and materialistic, he shouldn't play in it.

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    if he's going to criticize the league and the people who play in it as being too vain and materialistic, he shouldn't play in it.
    Well, at least you're being consistent..i.e. Mark Cuban and his constant criticisms of league policy. But I don't get it...who cares?

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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    I realize that, but if you were so much in disagreement with the way things were done, you'd most likely leave. Like I said, I don't disagree with the man, and I certainly respect his right to express himself, but really, if he's going to criticize the league and the people who play in it as being too vain and materialistic, he shouldn't play in it.
    first of all, he didn't criticize the league, he criticized the players, and some of them not all them. Second, what does one thing have to do with the other? He's got an opinion, thats all, it has nothing to do with him playing or not playing in the league.

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