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Nets have a trade exception big enough (from the McInnis to Charlotte trade) to take Butler's Salary.
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Other available big men the Nets would be interested in include San Antonio's Jackie Butler, whom they have inquired about
Nets have a trade exception big enough (from the McInnis to Charlotte trade) to take Butler's Salary.
TRADE HIM!!!...Ship him out right now.
Butler for VC.
That better be a joint you're puffing on.Butler for VC.
Why the would we want VC (even if it made salary cap sense)? So he can screw up in the clutch like he has his whole career? So he can jack up bad shots? So he can be a locker room cancer? :puke
The only person that would be even worth trading for would be Marcus Williams #2 or Nachbar, and I don't see that happening.
See, he's widely known to be available.Other available big men...
He would likely go for cash or future considerations since there is a trade exception. That might give them (Spurs FO) wiggle room to bring in a free agent and still avoid the luxury tax.
Just another reason why Butler is at summer camp!!It's all about boosting his trade value at this point. Butler will never get many minutes with the spurs so the time is coming soon to trade him and bring in mahinmi for developmental reasons.
I wonder if the Nets really contacted the Spurs R.C. asked; "How about Francisco Elson? He's a uva athlete?"
I'll gladly trade him for a 1st # pick or atleast 2 2nd # picks for him & our 1 2nd # pick.
Trade exception and 2008 first rounder....nothing less.
Still can't believe the Spurs would entertain getting rid of a 6'10, 260lb man-child who just turned 22 and who has the potential to be the second best big man on this team.
This is not a bad idea. This would provide some room to bring in Scola.
We aren't going to bring in Scola this year people. Butler is part of our future.
Um...its was a joke.That better be a joint you're puffing on.
Why the would we want VC (even if it made salary cap sense)? So he can screw up in the clutch like he has his whole career? So he can jack up bad shots? So he can be a locker room cancer? :puke
Trading Butler for a trade exception and a second round pick could make a lot of sense for SA :
- Butler is expensive. With the Luxury tax system, he will likely cost $5M next year.
- Butler won't get playtime next year. He can't play in Austin and will spend the year on the inactive list. He can maybe be Spurs 5th bigman durign second games of b2b with Horry resting.
- Trading Butler will open a roster spot for a player like Mahinmi.
- Is Butler a that good project ? He is a good low post score but I'm not sure it's enough to make him a good project.
- Is Butler a good fit in SA ? If Spurs FO isn't sold on Scola's ability to play with Duncan, I wonder what they think about Butler playing with Duncan. Butler is a way worse fit as the bigman playing with Duncan than Scola.
Also, with Splitter possible coming to SA next year Butler once again is the odd man out!!After summer league, Butler's value will be about as high as its gonna get for a while. Expect him to be moved..Bruno do you think the spurs would ever consider bringing over Sanikidze this year for austin??
He doesn't look like a good fit. Spurs saw a way to pry a decent prospect from New York last summer and did so, but he doesn't match what they're looking for in a big man. Trade exception + a second rounder would be excellent.
I don't think they consider to sign him this year.
If Spurs staff were in a evaluation process with Sanikidze, they would give him a lot of playtime in summer league and he doesn't play with the summer league team.
The botton line on Butler is that he will see no playing time next season or the season thereafter when Splitter hopefully arrives and Elson is extended. By that time he will have collected 6 mill as a practice player. Bring back Sean Marks at a fourth the cost.
The bad news is that Butler isn't increasing his trade value in the summer league.
I disagree and with the Nets looking to compete with the frontcourt of the Knicks and Orlando, I could see them bringing in Butler as they are in need of his services - low post scoring and a big body. Will he make an impact in NJ? I don't think so unless someone there gets injured again.
But I do see him as the odd man out in SA and would love the pick and trade exception.
Jackie who?
You people are crazy!
A day after this unrefined kid goes for 18pts and 12rebs consistently looking like the best player on the court, everyone is ready to trade him away for CRAP.
Any second round pick is a long-shot to be as productive in this league as Jackie Butler could be. And if it's purely a cost-saving measure, he makes a whopping $2.5M.
I understand the luxury tax concerns, but c'mon....you want to GIVE AWAY this kid (he's only 22), who seems to be the only credible low-post threat on this team outside of Duncan, and who has the potential to develop into a productive player in this league? Unbelievable....
As far as "fit" with this roster, how hard is it to believe that JB will displace Elson as the 2nd big off the bench? Butler may not fit great alongside Duncan (though I think the idea that two low post guys can't be on the floor together is overstated), but there are three others that he would fit great with...Fabs, Horry, and Bonner.
Finally, to the point about Splitter. Assuming Tiago comes over next year, why is everyone assuming that he's automatically going to take Elson's place in minutes and rotation? Is he not going to have an adjustment or learning curve as well? Why trade a player for nothing right now, without knowing whether Splitter will even be able to step in right away and fill that role.
I say the Spurs let Jackie play out the rest of the summer league and training camp. Let him earn some minutes, possibly away from Elson, and let them continue to evaluate him throughout the year. If he does great, then they can pick up the team option and keep him on this team. If he's not great, release him from his contract or trade him to another team.
One thing is for sure, if you trade him now you'll get virtually nothing in return. If you trade him a year from now, you could likely get more...but it's hard to say you get less than a bull second round pick.
If Elson is extended beyond this season I will go ape !
The guy is worthless....
On Sean Marks....he's not a 22yr old, 265lb low-post F/C.
Why is it that everyone is downgrading Butler to be a "practice player"?
He was a practice player in his first year with this team as a young kid with a bunch of experienced guys in front of him.
Give this kid a shot to earn legitimate minutes...he's got the freaking talent.
Last edited by AFBlue; 07-10-2007 at 10:44 AM.
I think Butler still has potential to be a decent big off the bench. He's still young, he's still learning the Spurs' system, and hopefully he's benefitting from watching Tim play. He'll never be a star, and probably not even a starter, but I still think he might be able to contribute. Remember how medoicre Oberto looked his first year with the Spurs?
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