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    Spurs may net savings in trade

    Web Posted: 07/17/2007 12:14 AM CDT

    Johnny Ludden
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    The agent for Vassilis Spanoulis said Monday the Greek guard doesn't want to return to the NBA and would like the Spurs to release him from his contract.
    The Spurs acquired Spanoulis on Thursday in a trade that sent center Jackie Butler and the draft rights to Argentine forward Luis Scola to the Houston Rockets. Spanoulis had previously asked the Rockets for his release, and the Spurs made the deal knowing there was a strong chance he would prefer to play in Greece.


    Spurs officials have yet to receive a formal request from Spanoulis, but they're expected to grant his release provided he gives up the $1.9 million he's due this season in the last guaranteed year of the contract. Because their payroll is over the league's luxury-tax threshold, the Spurs would save around $4 million if Spanoulis doesn't play for them.

    "He loves (the) Spurs, but he desperately wants to stay in Europe," Spanoulis' agent, Miodrag Raznatovic, wrote in an e-mail. "If somebody does not want to play for such a great team, coach and organization as S.A. is, it's probably clear that he really must stay in Europe. We hope that S.A. will respect his wish."

    Spanoulis appeared in 31 games for Houston last season, averaging 2.7 points, 0.9 assists and 8.8 minutes.

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...s.3613162.html

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    The only truth to this deal was that the spurs realized that they were paying Jacki Butler alot money for nothinh and the only way to get rid of him was to put Scola in the deal to get rid of his contract, they already new that the Greek dude didn't wanna play in the Nba and with cash consideration and saving alot of money the spurs might just buy out Tiago Splitter's Eurpean Contract.

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    Ludden sucks...the summer is boring enough without him killing whatever little excitement there is.

    Go to Ludden, and if you don't have something fun to say...best not to say anything at all.

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    The only truth to this deal was that the spurs realized that they were paying Jacki Butler alot money for nothinh and the only way to get rid of him was to put Scola in the deal to get rid of his contract, they already new that the Greek dude didn't wanna play in the Nba and with cash consideration and saving alot of money the spurs might just buy out Tiago Splitter's Eurpean Contract.
    Splitter doesn't have a buyout option until next season.

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    The Spurs made a trade cause they are cheap s?

    YOU DONT SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I guess Holt gave the OK to let this be printed I assume.

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    I guess he needs to write something so he can keep claiming his cheques? *shrugs*

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    Why not write about Sanikidze?

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    So if the Greek guy asks to be released from the contract, the Spurs get to keep the cash, not pay his salary, and they got rid of Butler's, without taking a contract on. But the price was the Rockets got Scola. Hopefully the Spurs use this money to sign someone.

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    I don't need to read articles about previously announced ready to be announced announcements.

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    So if the Greek guy asks to be released from the contract, the Spurs get to keep the cash, not pay his salary, and they got rid of Butler's, without taking a contract on. But the price was the Rockets got Scola. Hopefully the Spurs use this money to sign someone.

    I hoping they still have a trade in the works...I hate stagnation.

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    I would be happy if they get Udoka and Petrus, or one of them. and somehow get Splitter her but, i will be fine if they just get Petrus.

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    Ludden sucks...the summer is boring enough without him killing whatever little excitement there is.

    Go to Ludden, and if you don't have something fun to say...best not to say anything at all.

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    Lets sign DROB

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    Predictable. The expected happens, Spanoulis (the Greek Jordan) stays where he said he would say and Whoottt is crying in his milk.

    The question would be whether the Spurs actually thought they could bring him over.

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    Let him go with handshake and a hope that if he decides to come to the NBA in a year or two he looks us up.

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    That sound you heard was 90% of whottt's theories going out the window. That other sound you heard was ploto realizing timvp was right about the Spurs being willing to keep him if he doesn't except a full buyout.

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    Ludden sucks...the summer is boring enough without him killing whatever little excitement there is.

    Go to Ludden, and if you don't have something fun to say...best not to say anything at all.
    This isn't exciting? Holt Cat made money!!

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    In other news, Ludden reports that Peter Holt just saved with Geico.

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    That sound you heard was 90% of whottt's theories going out the window.

    Hmmm...the basic premise of my theory is that the Spurs were indeed interested in Vassilis...this article does nothing to refute that. And in fact...seems to confirm they were interested in him.

    My error is about him truly not wanting to play in the NBA...

    I guess that extra 9 is starting to look better to him.

    That other sound you heard was ploto realizing timvp was right about the Spurs being willing to keep him if he doesn't except a full buyout.
    What's your next trick? A footrace against a man with no legs? Has ploto ever been right about anything? Bully.

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    Hmmm...the basic premise of my theory is that the Spurs were indeed interested in Vassilis...this article does nothing to refute that. And in fact...seems to confirm they were interested in him.

    My error is about him truly not wanting to play in the NBA...

    I guess that extra 9 is starting to look better to him.
    Just admit when you are wrong for once.

    It's not that hard. Even timvp has had to do so a couple of times.

    What's your next trick? A footrace against a man with no legs? Has ploto ever been right about anything? Bully.
    She claims to have predicted the last 232,342,523,234 events in Spurs history. She's like you accept that I'm pretty sure you don't hate the Spurs.

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    Just admit when you are wrong for once.

    It's not that hard. Even timvp has had to do so a couple of times.
    I'm wrong...Vassilis truly doesn't want to play in the NBA now. I don't think I'm wrong that the Spurs were interested in him, seriously interested in him...and probably figured the chance of signing him was better than anything else they were offered this season. Was there conspiracy? No...the fact that Ludden didn't mention that proves it...because I am certain if the Spurs were in any way attempting to cir vent league rules...Ludden would confirm it.

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    I'm wrong...Vassilis truly doesn't want to play in the NBA now. I don't think I'm wrong that the Spurs were interested in him, seriously interested in him...and probably figured the chance of signing him was better than anything else they were offered this season. Was there conspiracy? No...the fact that Ludden didn't mention that proves it...because I am certain if the Spurs were in any way attempting to cir vent league rules...Ludden would confirm it.
    Even though you were being facetious, that is more true than you realize.

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    I just want to know one thing...

    When did the Spurs stop being interested in getting another PG?

    And since when don't they try to dump guys in Pop's doghouse? Especially if there are dollars to be saved?

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    I just want to know one thing...

    When did the Spurs stop being interested in getting another PG?

    And since when don't they try to dump guys in Pop's doghouse? Especially if there are dollars to be saved?
    Probably when they realized they couldn't get rid of Beno.

    Seriously, I think there's only one GM in the NBA who thinks this kid is worth the $1.7M he's being owed...and right now that GM is concerned about getting Mike Bibby, still has Eric Snow and Damon Jones' monstrous contracts on th books, and Boobie Gibson starting to show some promise.

    Beno is either going to be part of a larger deal, or he's going to be someone's third or fourth option to fill a backup/third string PG role if the team hasn't already so by end of the off-season.

    IMO, the Spurs will probably hold on to Beno this year, then draft his replacement next year.

    Bottom Line: Beno is so damn untradeable that it's pointless to go after another PG and end up with 4 on the roster when every spot is crucial.

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    Probably when they realized they couldn't get rid of Beno.

    Seriously, I think there's only one GM in the NBA who thinks this kid is worth the $1.7M he's being owed...and right now that GM is concerned about getting Mike Bibby, still has Eric Snow and Damon Jones' monstrous contracts on th books, and Boobie Gibson starting to show some promise.

    Beno is either going to be part of a larger deal, or he's going to be someone's third or fourth option to fill a backup/third string PG role if the team hasn't already so by end of the off-season.

    IMO, the Spurs will probably hold on to Beno this year, then draft his replacement next year.

    Bottom Line: Beno is so damn untradeable that it's pointless to go after another PG and end up with 4 on the roster when every spot is crucial.

    He's in the final year of his contract...surely they could dump it...you can always move a PG with Beno's talent...the Spurs could have last year, they turned it down because it would have left them with just Parker and Vaughn able to play point.



    Who do you think is better...Beno or Vassilis?

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