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    Chopper Ed Helicopter Jones's Avatar
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    I'm tired of defending the rights of citizens to go on organized pitbulls hunts so I'm officially retiring from ever posting about the breed again. This is my last statement on the matter because I don't have the time or energy to debate it anymore.

    So, my final words regarding pitbulls....


    If you want to own one, carefully look at the pedigree of the dogs. For the large breed AKC registered dogs I've owned I've gone through the family tree. Look for things like inbreeding because some lines are inbred every 2nd to 3rd generation with the same family line. Interview the breeder of your litter and for the generations prior to the one you're buying if you can. You can learn a lot from visiting the kennel. A respectable breeder will let you talk to some owners of the litters and give you a reference list. It important to check the history of the stud dog as well, something that a lot of folks don't do a great job of doing because the stud owner can be harder to track down because they're often from another state, etc.

    Once the dog is home, keep the dog's food and toys away from your children and closely monitor the dogs whenever you kiddos are in the area. Never leave the dog and the child alone in the same room or outside without being close to them at all times.

    If your dog shows any signs of aggressive behavior towards any child, seriously consider getting rid of the animal. Your child's beautiful face and overall health (and life) is a lot more important than an animal, no matter how much the dog means to you.

    I've owned several AKC large breed dogs over the years, primarily great danes and mastiff breeds and loved them all. Some of my best friends have owned dobermans, german shepards, pitbulls, chows, and another good friend breeds rotts. I was always drawn to large breed dog owners because we shared a love for these animals and had a lot of commonalities on which to base friendships. I've witnessed the good and the bad in all these dogs and I'm not so naive as to think that all breeds are perfect, because none are.

    I realized that getting on my soapbox about pitbulls is really kind of dumb because some people will listen, a lot of people know what is responsible behavior, but the one's who won't ever listen are the ones who you spend most of your efforts rambling with. My bad on that.

    The pitbull breed worries me the most because this breed has been the most screwed up by people. I don't blame the dogs. I just know what I've seen. I personally feel this dog is the most aggressive widely-owned breed of dog (rodesian ridgebacks, as an example, are far more aggressive but not as widely owned). Irresponsible dog owners put people at risk and it seems like a lot of pit owners don't care enough about others or themselves to take proper precautionary measures to protect other people.

    I used to not care much until my son was born, and now I realize that children are really fragile and need to be protected, and if you own a breed with aggressive tendencies and keep these dogs in neighborhoods around families you're putting people at risk. Your responsibility as a dog owner is immense, but unfortunately people don't always take their dog ownership seriously. And sometimes, no matter how careful you are things can still happen.

    I think there are so many other great breeds of dog with zero history of maming or killing people that I don't understand why we need to keep these more aggressive breeds around kids and neighborhoods.

    So, in the words of Bob Barker, if you own a dog or cat, have them spayed or neutered; and if you own a pit bull, shoot him in the head.

    That is all.

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    I thought the pitbull was going to hail a cab with "Fresh" on its license plate.

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    I thought the pitbull was going to hail a cab with "Fresh" on its license plate.

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    Give Peace a Chance....Imagine? ZStomp's Avatar
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    Starting with this one!

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    you know this is going to turn into a pitbull thread right?

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    Great thread! Enough is enough.

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    I Am Jack's Smirking Revenge atxrocker's Avatar
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    that sig is classic.

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    So, in the words of Bob Barker, if you own a dog or cat, have them spayed or neutered; and if you own a pit bull, shoot him in the head.

    That is all.

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    Give Peace a Chance....Imagine? ZStomp's Avatar
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    http://www.courierpress.com/news/200...er/?printer=1/

    ..and yet another story found online.. tsk, tsk...

    courierpress.com
    Pit bull attacks mother, daughter

    By KATE BRASER
    Courier & Press staff writer 464-7622 or [email protected]
    Originally published 12:00 a.m., January 11, 2007
    Updated 10:51 a.m., January 11, 2007

    While a mother and daughter underwent treatment at Deaconess Hospital for wounds inflicted during a vicious attack by their own dog, neighbors couldn't shake images of Wednesday morning's bloody mauling.

    Some wished they could have done more to help 20-year-old Tia Franz, who reportedly screamed for help as she cowered in her back yard while Felony, a white 2-year-old pit bull, relentlessly ripped at the flesh on her arms and chest.
    Others let their eyes and concerns wander to other pit bulls on the block. At least three stood nearby: Only one was leashed.

    The victims, Susan C. James, 39, and her daughter, Franz, were taken from their home at 1216 Harriet St. to Deaconess Hospital with injuries police described as "extreme."

    Police said James has severe injuries to her hands and arms, and Franz has severe injuries to her hands, arms, chest, abdomen and right side.

    Medical personnel told police both victims would require surgery, but Deaconess personnel said they could not release information about the women's conditions.

    For Miranda Kirby, it all began shortly after 8 a.m., when she heard screams. Kirby stepped outside and saw James bleeding, then called police.

    Back outside, Kirby found Franz pleading for help while the dog was "swinging (Franz) around like a rag doll." Kirby tried to throw whatever she could find at the dog, but the canine was not deterred.

    Robert Stotlar said he felt helpless. "No matter what, the dog just kept digging in and tearing," said Stotlar. "That dog was determined to do damage."

    Police officers had to fire several times before the dog released its grip. It died from the gunshots.

    The women told officers the attack started after they got into an argument. The dog lunged at James first. Franz tried to get the dog away from her mother, but it turned on Franz and chased her through three rooms and into the back yard.

    Hours after the attack, the porch was spattered with drops of blood as neighbors gathered nearby to talk.

    Jennifer Walker said it looked "like a murder scene."

    "It looked so bad I had to turn away at one point. I thought I was going to get sick," Walker said.

    Stotlar said Felony roamed free at times, but his owners told concerned neighbors Felony was a family pet, a good dog with no previous aggression.

    "Something like that I'm not going to forget," Stotlar said, staring into the back yard where he watched Franz trying to fight the dog off. "I wish I could have done something for her. After awhile, I just started getting sick. I had to walk away."

    Animal Control Superintendent Tom Hayden said he has received no previous complaints about the dog.

    "We had people tell us while we were there that the dog was never vicious or dangerous, but the thing people don't understand is that the dog has a hierarchy of its surroundings and domain," he explained. "It's like if you saw your children fighting. What would you do as a parent? You'd get in the middle and separate them."

    Hayden said the attack marked the first this year; but he also gave it a more dubious distinction.

    "It's up in the top percentage of (violent dog attacks), based on the severity of the two individuals' injuries," he said.

    Evansville's new animal control ordinance, which was recently adopted, does not ban the ownership of pit bulls.

    A study cited by the Centers for Disease Control analyzed fatal dog attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. Pit bull-types had the most, 76, followed by Rottweilers, 44, and German shepherds, 27. Some cities, such as Denver, have banned pit bulls.

    The number of pit bull attacks is high compared with other breeds simply because there are more of them, breed advocates say.

    Nowhere is that more evident than in the city's shelter. Of the 1,500 animals adopted last year, at least 75 percent were pit bulls or a pit bull-mix. But animal advocates say the problem is often irresponsible owners, rather than the dogs.

    Whether those dogs became aggressive or a playmate is up to the owner, Kendall Paul, Vanderburgh Humane Society director said last year.

    "A gun, in the wrong hands, is lethal," she said.

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    You're using a news story from Jan. 11 to make your point.

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    ^ January

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    Give Peace a Chance....Imagine? ZStomp's Avatar
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    It still happened didn't it?

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    <><><><><><> ALVAREZ6's Avatar
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    It still happened didn't it?
    The way you say that, it's a pretty good point.

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    Give Peace a Chance....Imagine? ZStomp's Avatar
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    I was just teasing Chopper. I'll say this though: I don't necessarily hate pit bulls but every time I'm around one, I feel uncomfortable. Uneasy.

    While I am at work and a pit is around, I'm a little closer to my weapons than when another dog is around.

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    Pits are so small, who cares. If they attack you, you have every right in the world to defend yourself, kill the dog if necessary. An owner who can't control his or her pet is a piece of , don't feel sorry for taking a dog's life if it attacked you first. Kick to the face/neck really hard as if you were kicking a JV field goal should knock a small pit pretty good, if it comes back stomp it's head into the ground, American History X style.

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    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    I thought the pitbull was going to hail a cab with "Fresh" on its license plate.
    I am ashamed to say the first thing I did was read the last line.

    I would apologize to him, but I know Chopper will do something, sometime to make up for having a serious post.

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    While I am at work and a pit is around, I'm a little closer to my weapons than when another dog is around.

    much like austin pd around a minority.

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    Maaaaaannnn fuck.... E20's Avatar
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    I was just teasing Chopper. I'll say this though: I don't necessarily hate pit bulls but every time I'm around one, I feel uncomfortable. Uneasy.

    While I am at work and a pit is around, I'm a little closer to my weapons than when another dog is around.
    Zstomp, a former teacher of mine has German Shepards and he says his are REALLY domesticated and won't bite, but normal ones without any care/nurturing will bite a person if it gets near them, so who would win? A German Shepard or a Pit Bull.

    I know a Golden Retriever would own all of them, because in that movie Homward Bound, the Golden Retriever beat up a BEAR and the pit bull got pwn3d by a hedgehog.

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    Give Peace a Chance....Imagine? ZStomp's Avatar
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    I have no idea.... ?????

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    I have no idea.... ?????
    I thought you made dogs fight each other.

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    A german Sheppard would eat a pit bull if it were angry.

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    I could eat a pit bull if i were angry enough.

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    Pits are so small, who cares. If they attack you, you have every right in the world to defend yourself, kill the dog if necessary. An owner who can't control his or her pet is a piece of , don't feel sorry for taking a dog's life if it attacked you first. Kick to the face/neck really hard as if you were kicking a JV field goal should knock a small pit pretty good, if it comes back stomp it's head into the ground, American History X style.
    you talk like you could take a pit

    i bet it would tear you apart
    you'd panic while its ripping up your skin. trust me, a pit would get you. the only way is to jump on top of a car.

    i have experience, i have gotten my share of dog attacks.

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