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    and the Cowboys made the Broncos their on both sides of the ball. The Bronco O line was so porous that Travis Henry fumbled the handoff due to sheer panic.

    That is all.

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    Still, Travis Henry is going to be a dark horse in all the Fantasy Football Leagues.

    But, the Cowboys did look good . . . although I was concerned with Romo's mechanics in today's game.

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    He didn't look as comfortable for this game.
    I hope it isn't a sign of things to come.

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    I hope we don't regret passing on Quinn.

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    The Cowboys picked up Spencer, who looks like he'll be a damn good player in this league, and the Browns' 2008 1st for Quinn. I don't think Quinn will be anything special in the league, probably a serviceable starting QB at best. Even if Quinn turns out to be better than serviceable, the Cowboys will probably have two very good or even great players in Spencer and the 1st rounder next year.

    Romo looked fine to me in this game. The int. was completely on Austin for stumbling out of his break and not getting to the spot - the throw was fine. The only two glaring mistakes by the 1st team O were made by what will likely be the 4th and 5th or 6th receivers.

    I thought it was another very good outing in the quest for consistency with the 1st team, especially against a good D and pretty good O. They made Cutler look like a rookie again by getting pressure and taking away his go-to routes.

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    They also embarrased the Broncos running game that seems to be great every year. They just need to bring that sort of effort and performance on a game by game basis to really be something special.

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    The Cowboys picked up Spencer, who looks like he'll be a damn good player in this league, and the Browns' 2008 1st for Quinn. I don't think Quinn will be anything special in the league, probably a serviceable starting QB at best. Even if Quinn turns out to be better than serviceable, the Cowboys will probably have two very good or even great players in Spencer and the 1st rounder next year.

    Romo looked fine to me in this game. The int. was completely on Austin for stumbling out of his break and not getting to the spot - the throw was fine. The only two glaring mistakes by the 1st team O were made by what will likely be the 4th and 5th or 6th receivers.
    Quinn will be a great quarterback. And, we're going to draft McFaden with that pick, Jones has already hinted to it. Running backs don't have the same life expectancy that quarterbacks do.

    Really, would you give up on Payton Manning comming out of college for DT with potential?? If you say yes, then I don't know what to say to you.

    I'm not saying that I'm not happy with Spenser, because I am. I just hate the thought of passing on a franchise quarterback.

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    Quinn will be a great quarterback. And, we're going to draft McFaden with that pick, Jones has already hinted to it. Running backs don't have the same life expectancy that quarterbacks do.

    Really, would you give up on Payton Manning comming out of college for DT with potential?? If you say yes, then I don't know what to say to you.

    I'm not saying that I'm not happy with Spenser, because I am. I just hate the thought of passing on a franchise quarterback.
    Please don't compare Brady Quinn to Peyton Manning. Don't do that. Quinn looked good against the people who won't even make the Lions' roster. I've seen him play extensively as a Notre Dame fan (#2 after Texas), and I don't see superstar in this kid. He'll be better than Tim Couch, but no superstar. I even think the chances that he busts due to his lack of for ude will be fairly high. You look at it from the Cowboy's perspective on draft day - you don't pass up a great piece for your D and a future #1 for a kid that's iffy at best. There's a reason so many teams passed on Quinn. He's a far longshot to come close to Peyton Manning and very much closer to being Ryan Leaf.

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    I just heard that Ekuban tore his achilles in the game - that really sucks for the Broncos. I was hoping both teams would clear the game healthy, but this bull hit Ekuban and Travis Henry to a much, much lesser extent.

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    Please don't compare Brady Quinn to Peyton Manning. Don't do that. Quinn looked good against the people who won't even make the Lions' roster. I've seen him play extensively as a Notre Dame fan (#2 after Texas), and I don't see superstar in this kid. He'll be better than Tim Couch, but no superstar. I even think the chances that he busts due to his lack of for ude will be fairly high. You look at it from the Cowboy's perspective on draft day - you don't pass up a great piece for your D and a future #1 for a kid that's iffy at best. There's a reason so many teams passed on Quinn. He's a far longshot to come close to Peyton Manning and very much closer to being Ryan Leaf.
    If you saw him extensively as a Notre Dame fan, as you say, then you probably weren't paying close attention. Brady put up some great numbers, but he couldn't do it all by himself. The Dame Defense just wasn't any good, which is why Weiss has hired a new D Coordinator.

    By the way, what was the knock on Manning comming out of college . . . "He puts up good numbers but he chokes under pressure."

    That followed him into the NFL until he finally got that monkey of his back.

    So, the comparison with Manning is apprapo.

    As for the reason other teams passed on Quinn, they all had starting quarterbacks!!!!!!

    As for getting a future #1 draft pick, is it worth risking not getting a franchise quarterback??

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    I just heard that Ekuban tore his achilles in the game - that really sucks for the Broncos. I was hoping both teams would clear the game healthy, but this bull hit Ekuban and Travis Henry to a much, much lesser extent.
    Ekuban was a first round draft pick for the Boys.

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    If you saw him extensively as a Notre Dame fan, as you say, then you probably weren't paying close attention. Brady put up some great numbers, but he couldn't do it all by himself. The Dame Defense just wasn't any good, which is why Weiss has hired a new D Coordinator.

    (Quinn put up numbers at ND, but made horrible mistakes in crunch situations. Reminds me more of Drew Bledsoe, who also put up great numbers in college. Quinn will be lucky to be half as good as Bledsoe. There are a ton of college QBs that put up great numbers, but how many turn out to be Peyton Manning?)
    By the way, what was the knock on Manning comming out of college . . . "He puts up good numbers but he chokes under pressure."

    That followed him into the NFL until he finally got that monkey of his back.

    (Same thing. Tons of people with great numbers but never amount to much in the NFL)

    So, the comparison with Manning is apprapo.
    (Not even close. At least wait for him to do something other than put up good numbers in a preseason game against people who aren't good enough to make the Lions' roster before comparing him to any other NFL QB).

    As for the reason other teams passed on Quinn, they all had starting quarterbacks!!!!!!

    (Wrong again. Miami, Minn, Tampa Bay, Washington, Houston, Buffalo. None of those teams have at QB, and several others like Green Bay and Jacksonville have inconsistent play at QB. They all passed on Quinn, which any one of those would have taken if he was half as good as you make him out to be)

    As for getting a future #1 draft pick, is it worth risking not getting a franchise quarterback??
    (The chance of Quinn becoming a franchise QB is very low. He isn't rated well in many areas and every professional scout knows that. That's why he dropped. He isn't some great talent with off the field problems like Moss. He's a decent prospect. The way I see it is could the Cowboys afford to miss out on a great LB opposite Ware that could replace Ellis if needed and a future (probably high) 1st round pick for a longshot young QB, especially since they already have a young QB with a ton of potential who has already shown he has the ability to be successful in the NFL? Of course the answer is NO.)

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    (Not even close. At least wait for him to do something other than put up good numbers in a preseason game against people who aren't good enough to make the Lions' roster before comparing him to any other NFL QB).
    I only said that the comparisons where similar. I never said he was already as good as Manning. You're putting words in my mouth. And, if you truly know football, then you would see the comparisons. Quinn had the same hype Manning did in college. He has the same potential, too.

    (Wrong again. Miami, Minn, Tampa Bay, Washington, Houston, Buffalo. None of those teams have at QB, and several others like Green Bay and Jacksonville have inconsistent play at QB. They all passed on Quinn, which any one of those would have taken if he was half as good as you make him out to be)
    Miami - Had Culpepper and were busy trying to get Green.
    Minnesota - Already invested in Tavarias Jackson
    Tampa Bay - Already has 400 quarterbacks (didn't you know that one?)
    Washington - Same as Minny, they have Jason Campbell they invested in
    Houston - had extended Carr's contract, but were looking to land Shaub even then.
    Buffalo - did you even see Losman play last year?? Come on man!!
    Jacksonville - has two quarterbacks already
    Green Bay - Favre is going to play until he's 60 and Roger's is the heir apparent.

    Is that all you got?

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    I only said that the comparisons where similar. I never said he was already as good as Manning. You're putting words in my mouth. And, if you truly know football, then you would see the comparisons. Quinn had the same hype Manning did in college. He has the same potential, too.



    Miami - Had Culpepper and were busy trying to get Green.
    Minnesota - Already invested in Tavarias Jackson
    Tampa Bay - Already has 400 quarterbacks (didn't you know that one?)
    Washington - Same as Minny, they have Jason Campbell they invested in
    Houston - had extended Carr's contract, but were looking to land Shaub even then.
    Buffalo - did you even see Losman play last year?? Come on man!!
    Jacksonville - has two quarterbacks already
    Green Bay - Favre is going to play until he's 60 and Roger's is the heir apparent.

    Is that all you got?
    If Quinn was such a sure thing, any of those teams would've made the pick. You think Minny, TB, Buffalo, Houston, Jacksonville, or GB are absolutely sure about their QB situation? If you think they are set then you are full of . Also, if he was such a sure thing, why did your precious Cowboys pass on a "franchise" QB when they aren't even sure Romo is going to pan out.

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    Blinded by homerism...

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    I only said that the comparisons where similar. I never said he was already as good as Manning. You're putting words in my mouth. And, if you truly know football, then you would see the comparisons. Quinn had the same hype Manning did in college. He has the same potential, too.



    Miami - Had Culpepper and were busy trying to get Green.
    Minnesota - Already invested in Tavarias Jackson
    Tampa Bay - Already has 400 quarterbacks (didn't you know that one?)
    Washington - Same as Minny, they have Jason Campbell they invested in
    Houston - had extended Carr's contract, but were looking to land Shaub even then.
    Buffalo - did you even see Losman play last year?? Come on man!!
    Jacksonville - has two quarterbacks already
    Green Bay - Favre is going to play until he's 60 and Roger's is the heir apparent.

    Is that all you got?
    You just named a bunch of QBs have have done jack and in the NFL. Losman is the only one who's done anything, but he's still inconsistent. All of the others don't have any experience or any accomplishments at all. You've been owned severely. Just give it up.

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    If Quinn was such a sure thing, any of those teams would've made the pick. You think Minny, TB, Buffalo, Houston, Jacksonville, or GB are absolutely sure about their QB situation? If you think they are set then you are full of . Also, if he was such a sure thing, why did your precious Cowboys pass on a "franchise" QB when they aren't even sure Romo is going to pan out.
    All of those teams have invested way too much to back off and start all over again.

    And, even Jerry Jones said that he might regret the day he passed on Brady Quinn.

    So, what exactly are you trying to point out here?

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    You just named a bunch of QBs have have done jack and in the NFL. Losman is the only one who's done anything, but he's still inconsistent. All of the others don't have any experience or any accomplishments at all. You've been owned severely. Just give it up.
    How exactly have I been owned?

    Break down the team needs. Then check into the contract situations with each of the QBs. Then, you can come and tell me what is what.

    Do it.

    Go team by team and justify your rationale.

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    Blinded by homerism...
    You're talking out of your ass.

    Even you were agreeing with me when we last spoke about it.

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    How exactly have I been owned?

    Break down the team needs. Then check into the contract situations with each of the QBs. Then, you can come and tell me what is what.

    Do it.

    Go team by team and justify your rationale.
    You go check all that if you want to. The fact is you listed a bunch of nobodys as proof that teams passed on Quinn due to having established QBs, and your argument was shredded to because of it.

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    You go check all that if you want to. The fact is you listed a bunch of nobodys as proof that teams passed on Quinn due to having established QBs, and your argument was shredded to because of it.
    I've asked you once and I'll ask you again, exactly how was my arguement shredded??

    I gave you a rundown of the teams and why they passed on him. Why can't you support your own arguement.

    Your retort was "go check all that if you want to." Well, as brilliant as that reply sounds, it doesn't say anything.

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    Although the Broncos got their asses handed to them last night, I will just throw this excuse out there as a means of justifying to myself, they were missing three starters from their offensive line.

    Having said that, thank God this is the pre-season.

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    No, in Preseason not a damn thing matters. Especially when you're missing 3 starting offensive lineman, and the team you are playing likes to blitz every down. The Cowboys looked damn good, but preseason means nothing and I don't take a damn thing away from that game last night.

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    I just heard that Ekuban tore his achilles in the game - that really sucks for the Broncos. I was hoping both teams would clear the game healthy, but this bull hit Ekuban and Travis Henry to a much, much lesser extent.
    That sucks. I don't take much stock in wins and losses in the preseason but I hate to see injuries. I was always a big fan of Ekuban so I hate to see this happen.

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    No, in Preseason not a damn thing matters. Especially when you're missing 3 starting offensive lineman, and the team you are playing likes to blitz every down. The Cowboys looked damn good, but preseason means nothing and I don't take a damn thing away from that game last night.
    so? yall still suck

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