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as far as ppg potential and being the better individual players, it has to be the celtics big three by far... but as far as reality is concerned and adding chemistry and intangibles... it shifts the other way and tim, tony, and manu come out ahead.
who's better?
I think Spurs big 3 of course
as far as ppg potential and being the better individual players, it has to be the celtics big three by far... but as far as reality is concerned and adding chemistry and intangibles... it shifts the other way and tim, tony, and manu come out ahead.
so individualy,
Garnett > Duncan
Pierce > Parker
Allen > Manu???
I don't know about that
yes and no... i meant as far as the on paper stats will go... obviously with less shots to go around the ppg's of these players arent going to be the same... the celtic trio has historically giving you 22-28 ppg each... while the spurs' trio is more like 15-22.
garnett > duncan makes me lol
Duncan > KG, but not by much
Manu > Allen, easily
Parker < Pierce, only because Pierce is bigger and stronger. Both have the same liability: turnovers. But they're such different styles of player, it's really hard to compare.
But where the Spurs are far better is the other 9 players on their roster. Rondo may develop into a superstar, or he may have a rocky sop re year. Other than that, there's not much playoff tested talent on the Celtics, and a big 3 is really mostly valuable in the regular season. The Spurs are deep and talented, at both ends of the court. No one in the East even comes close. Only the Mavs, the Suns, the Nuggets, and the Jazz come close in the West.
manu is not better than ray allen. manu is a good player but not as good as Ray.
Who the cares?!?!?
I count it like this:
Tim 4 Rings
Manu 3 Rings
Tony 3 Rings
No contest
Dude are u kidding? Ray is a better shooter than Manu, but Manu is better at everything else including playmaking and defense.
hahah....manu better than Ray....sure.....why would you compare a bench player to Ray a perenial albeit whiny all-star.
KG=TD
Man<Ray
TP<Pierce
Still, the edge of balance goes to the spurs....TP runs the point with Manu manning the wing while TD holds it down low.
Ray is a better shooter, that's it. Ray has typically put up big point totals on not so good teams. Manu does everything else better, and most importantly, Manu wins.
Actually Ray has better rebounds and assist #'s than Manu...plus he can actually play more than 28 mins per game. Now Manu has the benefit of playing for the Spurs with TD, TP, Finley, Bowen and Barry playing with him...of course he will have better wins and rings.
Duncan>>>KG
Allen>Manu
Pierce>Parker (barely)
The rest of the Spurs team>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rest of Boston team.
KG=TD? Are you freakin' kidding me?
KG puts up better stats, but TD doesn't have to carry his team anymore because he's got better talent. However make no mistake, TD greatness outmatches KG because of his championship resume. TD puts up championship rings.
I agree with this.
Its hard to compare Parker and Pierce, but I would say Pierce is the better player right now. Allen has also lead teams without much talent past the first round of the playoffs, which is more than a guy like McGrady has done with more talent. I know a lot of Spurs fans hate Allen, but come on, theres no way Manu is better than Jesus.
Btw, did anyone see the highlights of the Celts/T-Wolves game? Garnett was getting everyone involved, they should be fun to watch this year.
I had Pierce compared to Parker because Parker is arguiably Spurs 2nd best player, just like Pierce. I think
Duncan > Garnett
Parker < Pierce (barely)
Manu > Allen (btw Manu is not a "bench" player, and he can play 28 minutes, it's just Pops decision)
How in the world do you think Manu is a better player than Allen?
Manu can actually carry a team, he gets other players involved. They are both clutch in the 4th quarters, but Manu is a better ballhandler and playmaker in the 4th.
Manu is also a better penetrator and playmaker than Allen. Not to mention Manu is also a better defender. Allen pretty much is just a better shooter.
TP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pierce
Allen has carried teams by himself, Manu has never had to carry anything. And when Allen is healthy, I dont think Manu is a better defender at all. The team makes manu look a lot better than he is on defense.
At point guard
For only 28 minutes at a time......You're comparing a career 13 point guy that predominately plays on the bench in the reg season and playoffs with Ray Allen....take the home glasses off. I love Manu, serioulsy I do, but if he can play 40 mins per game at the same high level...than let's see it. That's the beauty of the spurs...he doesn't have to. Now you put Manu to be the main man on an NBA team....let's see how well he does.
Manu has carried Spurs plenty times in playoff games in le years. you have short memory
and Manu has carried his entire team to Olympic gold.
If I had a choice I'd pick Manu over Allen 100% of the time.
Well Lunch...that's your opinion....no worries bro....it's all good. Like I said when Manu came into the league as a Laker fan I was very worried at what he brings to the table as player and teammate...I was right....history speaks for itself. However, if I had to choose Jesus or Manu as the main option on a team, I'd go with Ray...
no problem. IMO iyour points, that Manu is a "bench" player and does not play 40 minutes a game and thus not a better player than Allen, make a pretty weak argument.
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