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    Spurs, Colts, Cowboys, and Irish SpursFanFirst's Avatar
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    over the Patriots on Sunday?

    My initial reaction is to take NE because it's been that way for so long...

    on the other hand, I've watched NE play this year, and, while I may be in the minority, I'm not impressed. Regardless of the final score last week, they struggled with Cleveland.

    Anyone else have a good guess with this game?

    GO COWBOYS!

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    I'm not going to say that NE's success so far is a fluke but their toughest opponents have been the Chargers and Bengals. And that's not really saying much. They can start dreaming about another Super Bowl if they beat the Colts. The AFC is going down to Colts and Pats once again.

    I hate the Cowboys and the Pats, and one of them has to lose.

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    Sadly, I have to pick NE. I will be rooting my ass off for Dallas, I think they have a shot and will gladly be wrong if the Cowboys win but the Pats are too good.

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    Whoever makes the fewest big mistakes in this game wins. Thats how close these teams are to each other.

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    Romo >>>>>> Brady, Moss>>>>>>>T.O. Barber, Jones>>>>>>>>Morris, Maroney. NE DEF >>>>>DAL Def. Its going to be the best game to date and I think the boys will win if they can control the clock and run the ball effectively.

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    The only thing I'm picking is I say Brady ends up with 2 TDs and 2 INTs. After that it depends on Romo.

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    harrington>>>>>>>>>>>>>brady

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    Bruce Gradkowski>>>>>>>>>>>>Brady

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    In all seriousness Brady>Romo, T.O.>Moss, Barber/Jones>Morris/Maroney NE Def>=Dal Def. As a cowboys fan its going to be fun rooting as an underdog.

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    over the Patriots on Sunday?

    My initial reaction is to take NE because it's been that way for so long...

    on the other hand, I've watched NE play this year, and, while I may be in the minority, I'm not impressed. Regardless of the final score last week, they struggled with Cleveland.

    Anyone else have a good guess with this game?

    GO COWBOYS!
    I like the Cowboys in this one.

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    In all seriousness Brady>Romo, T.O.>Moss, Barber/Jones>Morris/Maroney NE Def>=Dal Def. As a cowboys fan its going to be fun rooting as an underdog.
    I think Dallas' defense is definitely better than New Englands, but a big problem for us, and someone else already said this, will be Ben Watson. Personally, I think he is an overrated TE, but the fact is, he will be facing Roy Williams a lot of the time, which just about anyone that is matched up against Roy is a mismatch in favor of the opponent. They better make sure Roy comes with his A-game, or that is going to be a HUGE issue.

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    It all comes down to pressure. If they can manage to lay Brady on his back all game (whether they sack him or not) they will be able to throw him off his game and make the coverage a lot easier for everyone.

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    over the Patriots on Sunday?

    My initial reaction is to take NE because it's been that way for so long...

    on the other hand, I've watched NE play this year, and, while I may be in the minority, I'm not impressed. Regardless of the final score last week, they struggled with Cleveland.

    Anyone else have a good guess with this game?

    GO COWBOYS!
    They didn't struggle half as much as Dallas struggled against the Bills. I think NE wins but they don't cover the spread. It will be a close game though.

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    My good friend who is a Pats fan actually thinks the Pats might lose this one. And he said it will be a relief in a way, to get the loss over with. And he would rather lose to the Cowboys than the Colts.

    I agree with him wholeheartedly, I would rather the Pats lose to the Cowboys instead of the Colts, as well.

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    I wouldn't necessarily agree that NE's defense >= Dallas, primarily because while personnel might be about equal, schematically, NE is about as diverse as any defense in the NFL. That allows Belichick to not just vary the looks that he gives to opposing offenses and confuse QB's, but also to invent new schemes tailored to deal with specific problems that certain offenses present. With Harrison back now, the NE secondary should be better as well. It will be interesting to see if Belichick can confuse Romo with disguised coverages and odd fronts -- he's succeeded in the past in confusing Peyton Manning.

    I'm also not sure that NE was unimpressive in beating Cleveland -- at least not sure that they were less impressive in beating Cleveland than Dallas was in beating Buffalo. It would certainly appear that NE has much greater reason to be confident that it is playing well at this point than Dallas does; but for a relatively miraculous recovery of an onside kick and a bizarre coverage decision by the Bills in the closing seconds, the Cowboys might well be 4-1 coming into this game.

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    Dallas has a good shot, mainly because New England won't show everything to a team they might see again in the Super Bowl. Meanwhile, Dallas is gonna have to unload every trick they've got to win this.

    And I'd much rather NE lose to Dallas than Indy. Losing to Dallas doesn't mean anything compared to losing to Indy. And if NE loses, I certainly won't be too upset over it, an neither will any Patriots fan. It's just not that big of a game to a Patriots fan.

    I can only imagine the Super Bowl-like celebrations of Cowboys fans if they win this game. week six.

    I say New England wins by a TD, but I won't be at all shocked if Dallas gets the W.

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    I wouldn't necessarily agree that NE's defense >= Dallas, primarily because while personnel might be about equal, schematically, NE is about as diverse as any defense in the NFL. That allows Belichick to not just vary the looks that he gives to opposing offenses and confuse QB's, but also to invent new schemes tailored to deal with specific problems that certain offenses present. With Harrison back now, the NE secondary should be better as well. It will be interesting to see if Belichick can confuse Romo with disguised coverages and odd fronts -- he's succeeded in the past in confusing Peyton Manning.

    I'm also not sure that NE was unimpressive in beating Cleveland -- at least not sure that they were less impressive in beating Cleveland than Dallas was in beating Buffalo. It would certainly appear that NE has much greater reason to be confident that it is playing well at this point than Dallas does; but for a relatively miraculous recovery of an onside kick and a bizarre coverage decision by the Bills in the closing seconds, the Cowboys might well be 4-1 coming into this game.
    Nice assessment, but by now everyone should know that a performance against team A one week has no bearing on a performance against team B the next. Neither the suggested lackluster performance by NE against Cleveland or the obvious lackluster performance by Romo against the Bills (you can't say the team was lackluster as the defense was awesome) have any bearing on this Sunday's game. There are so many factors that go into a football game that it's impossible to predict who will win in a game played by two teams who are very close in talent and performance against almost identically mediocre opposition to this point.

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    Dallas has a good shot, mainly because New England won't show everything to a team they might see again in the Super Bowl. Meanwhile, Dallas is gonna have to unload every trick they've got to win this.
    That's ridiculous, Dallas won't have to pull out any tricks. They are going to play their game as will NE, and the team who is able to execute better in all three facets of the game will win. There isn't a huge talent gap between the teams here, this isn't the NCAA.

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    Today on Simmon's podcast they mentioned that Dallas is favored by 6. That's shocking to me. I would've guessed pick 'em or NW by 2 or 3.

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    That's ridiculous, Dallas won't have to pull out any tricks. They are going to play their game as will NE, and the team who is able to execute better in all three facets of the game will win. There isn't a huge talent gap between the teams here, this isn't the NCAA.
    i'm not talking about trick plays, dumbass. i'm talking about strategies, packages, and plays that NE might be saving for a future date. they aren't going to waste everything they've got on a week 6 matchup. in 2005 the Patriots let the Steelers kick their ass up and down the field in the regular season, they had simple playcalling and let Corey Dillon sit with an "injury". They didn't reveal everything they had to a potential playoff matchup. then in the AFC le game they unloaded everything and kicked Pittsburgh's ass up and down the field.

    and i think the talent gap is wide enough that Dallas will have to play incredible in order to win. If both teams bring their A game, New England wins by 10 at least.

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    I wasn't talking about trick plays, dumbass. Dallas won't have to run any new schemes or variations on anything to beat NE in this game. The same goes for NE. You put far too much emphasis on tricks or gadgets as teams don't save much of anything for the playoffs. If they haven't run a scheme or set all season they won't run it in the playoffs. The games against Pitt weren't due to tricks, Pitt just was the more motivated team and executed better in the regular season and that was reversed in the playoffs.

    The talent gap isn't wide at all. If both bring their A game it's still a toss up.

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    Nice assessment, but by now everyone should know that a performance against team A one week has no bearing on a performance against team B the next. Neither the suggested lackluster performance by NE against Cleveland or the obvious lackluster performance by Romo against the Bills (you can't say the team was lackluster as the defense was awesome) have any bearing on this Sunday's game. There are so many factors that go into a football game that it's impossible to predict who will win in a game played by two teams who are very close in talent and performance against almost identically mediocre opposition to this point.
    I would say that I agree about performances changing from week-to-week, and last week being just a bad game for NE...BUT, I've watched them at least 3 times this year, and so far, I haven't seen anything that has me, a Colts fan, shaking in my boots.
    Oh boy...I didn't just jinx the Colts there, did I? The supers ion is creeping in...

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    I wasn't talking about trick plays, dumbass. Dallas won't have to run any new schemes or variations on anything to beat NE in this game. The same goes for NE. You put far too much emphasis on tricks or gadgets as teams don't save much of anything for the playoffs. If they haven't run a scheme or set all season they won't run it in the playoffs. The games against Pitt weren't due to tricks, Pitt just was the more motivated team and executed better in the regular season and that was reversed in the playoffs.

    The talent gap isn't wide at all. If both bring their A game it's still a toss up.
    As much as you'd love football to be a bunch of meatheads who just push each other around, and whatever team pushes harder wins, I hate to inform you that there's more to it than that.

    There are plenty of do ented occasions where New England, among other teams, has had specific plays for specific teams in specific situations. They won't show their entire hand to a team in week 6, especially when they might see them again in the Super Bowl. When you've been a Patriots fan for 15 years, then feel free to tell me how my team does things.

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    As much as you'd love football to be a bunch of meatheads who just push each other around, and whatever team pushes harder wins, I hate to inform you that there's more to it than that.

    There are plenty of do ented occasions where New England, among other teams, has had specific plays for specific teams in specific situations. They won't show their hand to a team. When you've been a Patriots fan for 15 years, then feel free to tell me how my team does things.
    Good god, arguing with you is pointless because you infer all sorts of over the top bull based on a very simple response.

    Teams do have different packages and schemes that they use or adjust to their compe ion. I never said they didn't. BUT, they don't typically just start using all sorts of foreign or new schemes that they haven't used all year long when the playoffs come around. I know you'd love for football to be a strictly thinking mans game and akin to chess, but I hate to inform you that when it comes right down to it the team that works harder and executes better wins. The team that doesn't get a ton of penalties, doesn't get a ton of turnovers, executes their blocks, executes their throws, runs their correct routes... wins.

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    Good god, arguing with you is pointless because you infer all sorts of over the top bull based on a very simple response.

    Teams do have different packages and schemes that they use or adjust to their compe ion. I never said they didn't. BUT, they don't typically just start using all sorts of foreign or new schemes that they haven't used all year long when the playoffs come around. I know you'd love for football to be a strictly thinking mans game and akin to chess, but I hate to inform you that when it comes right down to it the team that works harder and executes better wins. The team that doesn't get a ton of penalties, doesn't get a ton of turnovers, executes their blocks, executes their throws, runs their correct routes... wins.
    All the heart and determination in the world won't help you when you're facing a team who has a superior gameplan, along with equal heart and determination. If you think Wade Phillips is going to outcoach Bill Belichick, you're insane.

    Like I said, the Patriots will save their best shots at the Cowboys for the Super Bowl, if either team makes it.

    Looks like someone's been watching Remember The ans again.

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