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    Panathinaikos coming soon to a basketball court near you. With a roster consisiting of former NBA players Sarunas Jasikevicius, Vassilis Spanoulis, and Milos Vujanic. All of them carrying a chip on their shoulders from their NBA experiences to prove that they belong. Will Jasikevicious and Spanoulis light it up? Will Tim Duncan, Parker and Ginobili prove to be too much for PAO? Can the Rockets pull their new team together and will PAO compete? Spanoulis has much to prove here.

    (It's Rocky Balboa and the Eye of the Tiger all over again)


    PANA VS ROCKETS OCT. 11th 7:30 PM

    PANA VS SPURS OCT 13th 7:30 PM


    PANA"S ROSTER

    Roster

    No. Player Country Pos. Height Age
    - DIAMANTIDIS, DIMITRIOS Greece Guard 1.96 1980
    - ZIZIC, ANDRIJA Croatia Center 2.06 1980
    - HATZIVRETTAS, NIKOS Greece Guard 1.95 1977
    - XANTHOPOULOS, VASILIOS Greece Guard 1.86 1984
    - WINSTON, KENNEDY United States Forward 1.98 1984
    - PERPEROGLOU, EFSTRATIOS Greece Forward 2.03 1984
    - SPANOULIS, VASSILIS Greece Guard 1.93 1982
    - VUJANIC, MILOS Serbia Guard 1.90 1980
    - JASIKEVICIUS, SARUNAS Lithuania Guard 1.93 1976
    - TSARTSARIS, KOSTAS Greece Forward 2.09 1979
    - DIKOUDIS, DEMOS Greece Forward 2.06 1977
    - TOMASEVIC, DEJAN Serbia Center 2.08 1973
    - ALVERTIS, FRAGISKOS Greece Forward 2.06 1974
    - BATISTE, MICHAEL United States Forward 2.04 1977
    - BECIROVIC, SANI Slovenia Guard 1.95 1981


    Spurs Roster

    2007-08 Roster
    NUM PLAYER POS HT WT DOB FROM YRS
    17 Brent Barry G 6-7 210 12/31/1971 Oregon State 12
    15 Matt Bonner F 6-10 240 04/05/1980 Florida 3
    12 Bruce Bowen F 6-7 200 06/14/1971 Cal State Fullerton 11
    21 Tim Duncan F-C 6-11 260 04/25/1976 Wake Forest 10
    16 Francisco Elson C 7-0 235 02/28/1976 California 4
    4 Michael Finley G-F 6-7 225 03/06/1973 Wisconsin 12
    20 Manu Ginobili G 6-6 205 07/28/1977 Argentina 5
    25 Robert Horry F-C 6-10 240 08/25/1970 Alabama 15
    28 Ian Mahinmi C 6-11 230 11/05/1986 R
    7 Fabricio Oberto F 6-10 245 03/21/1975 Argentina 2
    9 Tony Parker G 6-2 180 05/17/1982 France 6
    Tiago Splitter ** C 6-11 232 01/01/1985 Brazil R
    5 Ime Udoka G-F 6-5 220 08/09/1977 Portland State 3
    14 Beno Udrih G 6-3 200 07/05/1982 Slovenia 3
    11 Jacque Vaughn G 6-1 190 02/11/1975 Kansas 10



    Rockets Roster

    31 Shane Battier F 6-8 220 09/09/1978 Duke 6
    Aaron Brooks G 6-0 160 01/14/1985 Oregon R
    Jackie Butler C 6-10 260 03/10/1985 Coastal Christian Academy (VA) 3
    3 Steve Francis G 6-3 210 02/21/1977 Maryland 8
    Mike Harris F 6-6 240 06/15/1983 Rice R
    44 Chuck Hayes F 6-6 238 06/11/1983 Kentucky 2
    2 Luther Head G 6-3 185 11/26/1982 Illinois 2
    7 Mike James G 6-2 195 06/23/1975 Duquesne 6
    15 John Lucas III G 5-11 165 11/21/1982 Oklahoma State 2
    1 Tracy McGrady F-G 6-8 223 05/24/1979 Mount Zion Christian Acad. HS (NC) 10
    55 Dikembe Mutombo (FA) C 7-2 260 06/25/1966 Georgetown 16
    20 Steve Novak F 6-10 220 06/13/1984 Marquette 1
    9 Justin Reed F 6-9 238 01/16/1982 Mississippi 3
    Luis Scola F 6-9 230 04/30/1980 Argentina R
    13 Kirk Snyder G 6-6 225 06/05/1983 Nevada-Reno 3
    6 Bonzi Wells G-F 6-5 210 09/28/1976 Ball State 9
    11 Yao Ming C 7-6 310 09/12/1980 China 5
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    28 Ian Mahinmi? Is that his NBA draft number?

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    Nope it's official. Ian Mahinmi will be wearing #28.



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    You left out the five training camp guys who are going to play substantial minutes and will keep the game from being a true matchup between these two teams.

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    You left out the five training camp guys who are going to play substantial minutes and will keep the game from being a true matchup between these two teams.
    PAO do same things. Most player not even play much yet. Not just NBA team in exhibition.

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    This be our update roster.


    C Batiste/Zizic/Tomašević

    PF Tsartsaris/Dikoudis/Alvertis

    SF Winston/Hatzivrettas/Perperoglou

    SG Bečirović/Spanoulis/Zahariev

    PG Diamantidis/Jasikevičius/Vujanić
    /Tatarounis

    Tatarounis just 18 and Zahariev just 16. Main problem our player up front not so big.

    Batiste 6-8 225
    Tsartsaris 6-10 245
    Dikoudis 6-9 235
    Alvertis 6-9 225
    Zizic 6-10 235
    Tomasevic 6-10 250

    Main problem have be play Spurs. Spanoulis and Saras have plays better Parker head verse head many time already. Diamantidis be guards Manu. Problems be who guards Duncan.

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    Is VSpan is the start sg for PAO?

    I thought he was a pg.

    This be our update roster.


    C Batiste/Zizic/Tomašević

    PF Tsartsaris/Dikoudis/Alvertis

    SF Winston/Hatzivrettas/Perperoglou

    SG Bečirović/Spanoulis/Zahariev

    PG Diamantidis/Jasikevičius/Vujanić
    /Tatarounis

    Tatarounis just 18 and Zahariev just 16. Main problem our player up front not so big.

    Batiste 6-8 225
    Tsartsaris 6-10 245
    Dikoudis 6-9 235
    Alvertis 6-9 225
    Zizic 6-10 235
    Tomasevic 6-10 250

    Main problem have be play Spurs. Spanoulis and Saras have plays better Parker head verse head many time already. Diamantidis be guards Manu. Problems be who guards Duncan.

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    Is VSpan is the start sg for PAO?

    I thought he was a pg.
    He unique player really. He play points or shooting guard same well really. He also play start or 6th man equal. He only player really along Papaloukas with CSKA all Euroleague as good more one position and bench or start and still be best player off bench.

    He only player I remember long time be always top scorer off bench. He play Maroussi Honda as 6 man he lead team scoring. He 2nd whole league scoring Greek League and ULEB Euroleague. One year he get 3rd MVP Greece league off bench Maroussi and 2nd MVP ULEB Euroleague. Different year with them as 6 man he get 2nd MVP Greece league and 2nd MVP ULEB Euroleague. He 2nd whole league in Greece and all ULEB Euroleagues in scoring and assist OFF BENCH! Player just like Manu!

    He play 6 man Panathinaikos and he lead team in scoring. He also play 6 man with Greece nationals team and he lead Greece in scoring 2006 World Champions and 2007 European Champions both time he come off bench.

    He mainly be only player Europe can score 15 point a game average off bench, play maybe like 25 -26 minute a game.

    Only thing he make worse be shooting guard is if he not have ball so much. He better player have ball in hands for sure and play picks and rolls. he best player all Europe picks and rolls even better Saras.

    But even be not have ball in hands in 2005-2006 year in Panathinaikos and even be bench player and be 3 or 4 option team he still lead team scoring 15-16 point game Euroleague. If he have ball in hands probably score like 25 point game Euroleague.

    This all be why many peoples compares him Manu for be so good from bench or starts. Similars also play shooting guard but run offense, so people compares him Manu.

    But in Euroleague his nickname be "Euro Kobe" This because he be unstops scorer if he decide take ball. He get nickname for hard play, unstops as scorer, always take last shot of game and also some fan think he selfish with ball. He consider best scorer Europe but also "selfish points guard"

    But in as his nickname be "Greek Steve Nash" because he have play with Maroussi like Steve Nash and be best scorer and probable best passer in Greece. He have be best in assist Greece before join Panathianikos. Then he be used as scorer and get nickname "Euro Kobe" from non-Panathianikos fan.

    So depend what you call him 6 man, starts, point guard, shootings guard but all really just because he be like Manu and also he do however coach ask. he never cares start or bench.

    Remembers to Europe not same in ways bench or starts, Saras maybe bench he considers most famous point guard Europe also Papaloukas play off bench CSKA and he have been Euroleague MVP and Final Fours MVP plus he have nickname in Europe "The Legend"

    Europe player if coach ask them help team more as 6 man and they special player to do so they agree like Manu do Spurs, not like NBA player go crazy and yell to coach he not start.
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    Actually for PAO with both the Rockets and the Spurs is who is going to match up against either teams big men. Yao will cause a lot of problems in the post and Duncan will be the same issue. Can PAO limit Yao's or Duncan's touches? It's basically PAO's perimeter and guard based team play against the inside power of the Rockets and Spurs.

    Additionally, Parker and Ginobili can be dangerous slashing type players for the Spurs. Oberto and Elson. Good role players. Bowen will probably end up defending Spanoulis.

    With the Rockets, they gotta stop McGrady, and maybe Bonzi Wells. Tough matchups with both teams for PAO.

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    Anyone heard of any broadcast information for these two games?

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    Second game of the pre-season, based on past pre-seasons the main players for Spurs will play a half at most, probably considrably less.

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    Second game of the pre-season, based on past pre-seasons the main players for Spurs will play a half at most, probably considrably less.
    But why all Amerikan fan act like this only for NBA team? PAO not even hardly have star player practice much yet. Some player like Spanoulis, Saras, Diamantidis, Hatzivrettas these player just have to play ALL SUMMER in European Championships. Spanoulis and Diamantidis have admit they exhausts and Saras have admit his body not even hold up well after NBA year plus play all summer. Not just Spurs team not be full strength.

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    So both teams are going to tank it. I declare that the Spurs are better at tanking and will win any tanking contest with any old Euro team.

    Go Keith Langford!

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    So both teams are going to tank it. I declare that the Spurs are better at tanking and will win any tanking contest with any old Euro team.

    Go Keith Langford!
    Yes both team probably not care and even told so for markting both team be either too tired or not ready. Panathinaikos be plays all their young player now even like say have 16 year old and 18 year old player on team!

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    Geesh what a letdown. Here I was hoping for some grudge match from the Ex NBA'rs

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    Geesh what a letdown. Here I was hoping for some grudge match from the Ex NBA'rs
    No Saras be injured and tired and just walk through so far with team. Spanoulis have say he so tired from all year NBA and plays all summer national team he have to take week of rest. So fars he play one exhibiton game and play hardly much but did scores 10 points off bench little play time.

    Mainly be now team plays Kennety Winston and player like this to get them ready. Vujanic be not even play till Euroleague and probable someone not even play Ethniki. Not sure Vujanic may not be even roster. He not even needed till Euroleague so team allow him take rest of year off.

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    If I were them, I'd want to prove something. Bring their "A" game.

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    I still think that Spanoulis is going to be out for blood when they play the Rockets. He has much to prove and pride in him to take a back seat. He might say he doesn't care but when the actual day comes, he's gonna want to scorch them.
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    I believe these games will be broadcast on SopCast.com

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    Pop should play Duncan,Manu,Parker for 5 minutes each. The euros will not prove anything.

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    PAO beata AEL Larissas 96-70 Saras and Diamantidis hardly even needs play benches most game and Spanoulis injured so no plays. Still we win 96-70. Greens have 45-15 lead at halftime and coach bench mainly most all team key players all second half and still win by 26!

    http://www.sport.gr/basket/ as08/071003/paoael3.asp
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    So the Greek Team might actually give the Spurs and Rockets a run for their money? Course the Spurs have a history of playing hard even in exhibition games. Last year they played their starters to beat European Power Tel Avi Maccabi in an exhibition game.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061008/SASTEL/boxscore.html

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    So the Greek Team might actually give the Spurs and Rockets a run for their money? Course the Spurs have a history of playing hard even in exhibition games. Last year they played their starters to beat European Power Tel Avi Maccabi in an exhibition game.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20061008/SASTEL/boxscore.html

    Last 2 year PAO go 36-3 in Greece A1 Ethniki! And this league not so bad 2 other Euroleague team in A1 Aris Salonica and Olympiacos Piraeus, and Olympiakos is one of top 3 team in Euroleague. Those team only go 32-7 for Oly and 31-8 for Aris in A1. This year PAO team better last year team.

    Last year PAO team have all-Euroleague 2nd team small forward Siskauskus but this year team let him gos and replaces him with Spanoulis who is much better player.

    Thens we add Jasekivicius to team. We replace Spurs draft pick Javtokas with Zizic because Javtokas hardly plays. Last years we win Euroleague championships with record of 20-4!

    So this year team maybe have chance go all year no loss. But best scorer on team is Spanoulis and now he be at injure place so to play Spurs and Rocket we not have best scorer. With not have team best scorer doubt PAO have chance.

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    Maybe Sarunas can pick up the scoring load?

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    Maybe Sarunas can pick up the scoring load?
    He be one of 2 best shooters on team also with Becirovic and he is best passer on team, but Spanoulis much better scorer than him really.

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