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    I'm just ranting here....but....

    An hour spent in the mall was an hour spent in revulsion. I was returning a shirt that was a christmas gift but was much to small. It was also bought from a store which uses a ton of sweatshop labor. I was in no hurry to keep the shirt so I went to Ingram to return it.

    The way the fashion industry has hijacked certain things really has annoyed me on the past 2 visits to the mall. The previous visit was spent scoping out stores for Buy Nothing Day back in November. Anyhow, when I see Che's face on shirts that are made by the people he was trying to liberate for miniscual wages being sold to children who have no idea who Che Guevara was, it just ing IRKS me. It's the equivilant of Jesus being featured in a porn. It's just so ing WRONG!

    The kicker today was when I walked up the register at Hollisters and was greated by a message on the register. Do you belong? That was the message. As if some stupid overpriced shirt from this ty store would somehow complete my life.

    I know it's nothing more than marketing at work, but at this point I've gotten sick of this whole MTV mindset that occupies EVERYTHING marketed torwards the younger segments of the population.

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    That's pop culture.

    I don't think you're going to get anybody to change, but if that's what people want and what they respond to - so be it.

    Believe me, I agree with you. I just also think that there are those that are happy with the marketing and are obviously responding to it.

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    That's pop culture.

    I don't think you're going to get anybody to change, but if that's what people want and what they respond to - so be it.

    Believe me, I agree with you. I just also think that there are those that are happy with the marketing and are obviously responding to it.
    I know, I'm very cynical in any expectations of change to this situation. That doesn't stop me from puking at the sight of this crap.

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    Big freaking deal Manny. Buying a shirt from these stores don't mean .

    The kicker today was when I walked up the register at Hollisters and was greated by a message on the register. Do you belong? That was the message. As if some stupid overpriced shirt from this ty store would somehow complete my life.
    Jeez...it's just a shirt. I dunno what kinda person would expect a shirt to complete their life.

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    Actually Duff, I'd venture to say the only thing not worth much in this thread is your opinion. But you know, that's just my opinion.

    It's actually ironic that you are a huge fan of Lennon and you lack the ability to see the situation for what it is. But I've gotten the impression that you're not much of a thinker. But you know, as you would say that's only from what you post on here, what the do I know?

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    Big freaking deal Manny. Buying a shirt from these stores don't mean .



    Jeez...it's just a shirt. I dunno what kinda person would expect a shirt to complete their life.
    You know, upon further review, it's obvious you don't even understand the point of the initial post. Do you even know who Guevara is? The fact that his face is now being marketed by shirts made in poor labor conditions in Latin America is ing NUTS!

    To make it simple for you, it's along the lines of someone starting up a religion with Lennon as the mesiah. You know, you probably still don't understand.

    Secondly, most of these stores use sweatshop labor. They pay some 12 year old kid 20 cents a day to sit there and make hundreds of these shirts that they turn around and sell for 50 dollars a pop. That woudln't be legal here in the United States so corporations simply cir vent our laws and import them instead.

    And then we have the marketing. The marketing that uses phrases like "do you belong" to make people believe that you must have a certain type of clothes to fit in. The message is right here plain and simple.

    I find all above disgusting, and by shopping there I'd be supporting that, so it DOES mean something.

    I don't expect you to give a rats ass. But I did think even you're simplistic ass could comprehend what I didn't like about it.

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    I find all above disgusting, and by shopping there I'd be supporting that, so it DOES mean something.
    I very much agree with you at ude.

    I hate when people say: It's not going to change so why bother?

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    One person can make a difference.

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    Guevara was one my hispanic friends from high school.

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    But you know, as you would say that's only from what you post on here, what the do I know?
    Very little. Yeah okay...if I buy a shirt from one of these places I'm sure my soul will forever be damned.

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    Very little. Yeah okay...if I buy a shirt from one of these places I'm sure my soul will forever be damned.
    No, and I never said as much. But you will be contributing to a ty situation.

    You shouldn't be buying any shirts untill you pay Jim back though.

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    Secondly, most of these stores use sweatshop labor. They pay some 12 year old kid 20 cents a day to sit there and make hundreds of these shirts that they turn around and sell for 50 dollars a pop. That woudln't be legal here in the United States so corporations simply cir vent our laws and import them instead
    Right...but I'm sure everybody would prefer they make my American Eagle t-shirt...rather than spend their days making cocaine.

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    rather than spend their days making cocaine.
    You tired, Duff?

    Must be from all that stretching.

    That's a pretty far reach and pretty off-base.

    That's like me saying I'd prefer to have Walter Pasacrita doing STSA rather than him making cocaine.

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    Right...but I'm sure everybody would prefer they make my American Eagle t-shirt...rather than spend their days making cocaine.
    or how about we don't allow companies to sell clothing made in a manner that is illegal here in the united states?

    I don't understand what you're getting at, you can't possibly think that every kid in a sweatshop has 2 roads in life. Farming Cocaine, or working in the sweatshop.

    Go ahead Duff, continue posting. I'm enjoying how the miniscule amount of intelligence dwindles post by post.

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    I don't understand what you're getting at, you can't possibly think that every kid in a sweatshop has 2 roads in life. Farming Cocaine, or working in the sweatshop.
    They can also host radio shows.

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    EDIT: I ed up the joke. Carry on.
    Last edited by Johnny_Blaze_47; 12-28-2004 at 01:12 AM.

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    I swear, I really wonder how stupid some people can be. Duff is arguing that sweat shops are ok.

    Is this the future of Duff?


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    I didn't say they are okay. Stop putting words in my mouth. Besides...you arguing about the sweatshops is a third of what you are crying about. The other is fashion culture.

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    Then what ARE you saying Duff? Make your re ed point a bit more clear.

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    I don't understand what you're getting at, you can't possibly think that every kid in a sweatshop has 2 roads in life. Farming Cocaine, or working in the sweatshop.
    I'm sure that many children working in sweatshops have NO alternatives.

    ....

    Best band name I've heard this year - Scissor Sisters.

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    Best band name I've heard this year - Scissor Sisters.
    Good band.

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    Manny, it seems to me that you need to take a chill pill. I mean there are a lot more nobler causes to get all riled up about than teenager clothing apparel.

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    I swear, I really wonder how stupid some people can be. Duff is arguing that sweat shops are ok.

    Is this the future of Duff?

    Manny, I don't think you know what you're talking about. If these "sweatshops" are so bad, why are there thousands of people lined up to try and get a job at them? A big problem with this line of thinking is that we tend to generalize American standards over the population of the rest of the world. I know that footwear factory jobs in Asia are highly sought after. The people in these countries definitely do not think of these jobs as being oppresive.

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    Manny, let it be known that tlong works for Nike.



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    Manny, let it be known that tlong works for Nike.






    Another point to consider....if your idea of sweatshop = people making far, far less than the American set minimum wage, you're going to have to start protesting a of a lot more than shirts....and you can start with Dell computers.

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