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Oh yeah, forgot the endorsement of the NY Times....
News out today that McCain has picked up the endorsement of Rep. Governor Charlie Crist of FL. This coming a day after he picked up the endorsement of popular cuban-american Senator Mel Martinez, also of FL. I'm not sure if either of these two endorsements will sway the voters so close to election day, but neither of them can hurt.
And as we've seen throughout this process, significant shifts can happen in the last days leading up to an election. It'll be interesting to see how much of a bump he gets in the polls based on these two endorsements....
Oh yeah, forgot the endorsement of the NY Times....
Looks like John's not done breaking the bank quiet yet....
--- John McCain"It's a tough war we're in. It's not going to be over right away. There's going to be other wars." Offering more of his increasingly bleak "straight talk," he repeated the claim: "I'm sorry to tell you, there's going to be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars."
It's not going to be over right away even if we decide to pull out "immediately" -- withdrawal would take over two years.
Newsflash: We're at war every day with Islamic extremists and it's not one that's going to be over anytime soon.
Also, what is the longest period of time in our country's history of NOT being involved in a conflict? Sadly, I think history will show that war is in fact a societal norm.
What McCain didn't say was that the US was going to START any war without provocation....which would be an indication of the same 'ol Bush foreign policy.
What he said above isn't anything different than what he's already been saying....and I don't think you'd find too many of the other candidates that would feel differently if they were honest with themselves.
WTF are you thinking? Who the makes money with a philosophy like that?!
Yeah, I've been drinking a little too much of the McCain kool-aid of late...but I still think it's unreasonable to assume that there will be significant peace under the next president regardless of who that ends up being.
The other candidates are just to chicken to admit it.
The only reason there will not be peace for America under any administration is because Americans choose war overwhelmingly over peace.
War is not something unique to this country. There are warring nations and factions across the globe that have their conflicts rooted in ideology and ethnicity and even land.
I think the propensity for this country to engage itself in these conflicts is two-fold....
1. This country has interest in seeing that one side or the other comes out victorious....be it tied to money, ideological concerns, or regional stability.
2. This country feels it has a social responsibility as the preeminent superpower in this nation.
While it may or may not end up with the commital of our troops to the cause, you almost have to concede that America will be a part of global conflict as long as it remains the preeminent power.
Totally agree, absolutely true.
I think you meant "preeminent superpower in this world", but yeah I got it.2. This country feels it has a social responsibility as the preeminent superpower in this nation.
While it may or may not end up with the commital of our troops to the cause, you almost have to concede that America will be a part of global conflict as long as it remains the preeminent power.
There is a global responsibility, that I will never argue. But how one executes those responsibilities is up for criticism. Rwanda, Sudan, India vs Pakistan, etc.
No, we didnt get involved in existing conflicts of gencide/potential nuclear warfare, we started our own war for our own reasons and sold it as a "world problem" and promptly invaded a country under the pretense of affiliation with said enemy although that has been proven false on any substantial ground.
With great power, comes great....you know the rest. American leadership and the lemmings who salute whatever bull is run-up the partisan flagpole are to blame for the missteps and lies we perceive.
I am guilty for doing nothing proactive to change that atmosphere.
No disagreement....we're on the same page.
Sorry to be anti-climactic if you were hoping for a more intense debate...
Last edited by AFBlue; 01-28-2008 at 01:14 PM.
FWIW...
The Orlando Sentinel, Palm Beach Post, and Gainesville Sun have all thrown their endorsements to McCain as well.
Hehe, its cool.No disagreement....we're on the same page.
Sorry to be anti-climactic if you were hoping for a more intense debate...
Add the South Florida Sun Sentinel, the Bradenton Herald, and the St. Petersburg Times.
Nationally he picked up the Chicago Tribune, Philadelphia Inquirer, the Stockton Record, and the Arizona Republic.
McCain is pro-Iraq war, plans to stay for decades, and is now talking about starting other wars. So he has the endorsement of the $$$MIC.
Meanwhile, the US military is still on schedule to "break" in April, as announced by the brass last year.
Ike was right.
Tomorrow in California - John "Keating Five" McCain is being endorsed by G. I. Joe Lieberman, 9iu11iani, and the "Gropenator" Swartzeneggar...
Student to McCain: "Boxers? Or Briefs?" McCain: "Depends."
Well he's already been endorsed by Lieberman. But it is interesting that he's somehow become the political reformer. Now all he needs is for the Dems to nominate Clinton and he has the presidency in the bag. Unless, of course, Romney finds a way to derail the 'Straight Talk Express'...
If Hillary is the alternative, McCain gets my vote.
Edit that, if Hilary is the Dem, the Republican is getting my vote period.
What happens if it's McCain v. Obama?
Well, then, I'd have to consider it more. McCain is (apparently) very gung-ho military macho man all the sudden (even though his Michigan ads tried portraying him differently).
Obama is.....what is he?
Im almost tempted to say Obama just because he is new and inexperienced. This good ol boy club of former Presidents have done nothing but put this country further and further behind the 8 ball.
Either way, the next president is going to be on in biblical proportion. The economy is going to dive, hard and fast. Peeps are going to lose their 401k, IRAs and stocks not invested in real assets (gold, oil, real estate, etc).
The buying power of the USD is going to plummet to historical lows in the next 8 years. All of this will blamed on the President, regardless of the cir stances that lead to the demise (no, not Bush, he is just one of many to kick it further down the road).
So, let a noob take the fall. Maybe he worms his way thru it somehow. Who knows with Barack.
McCain will die in office. Dude is a fossil. Couple that with the stress of the office and his failing health and imprisonment...yeah.
side note: seen pics of Bush in 2000? Clinton in 1992? Compare those with the guy who is leaving office....I's like 'whoa'.
McCain is staying in Iraq for a long time. He can get away with such a position against Clinton, as so many are more concerned about her smarmy at ude and her husband washing his member in the Oval Office sink again rather than continuing to spend hundreds of billions, if not trillions of funny dollars maintaining a standing army in Iraq. So Clinton's personal negatives are worse than the negative view held by a majority of Americans of the Iraq policy. But take Clinton out of the race and suddenly the great big negative is hanging around McCain's neck.
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