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gotta be bull . did someone tap into mark cuban's wet dream?
Reported on ESPN, a NJ newspaper and floating around Dallas radio:
"One scenario would have Kidd returning to Dallas, where he started his career, and probably would include another team. The Nets, the source said, would get Devean George, DeSagana Diop and draft picks. Jerry Stackhouse may have to be added to make it work financially, but there likely is more involved."
http://www.northjersey.com/sports/ne...tml?c=y&page=1
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3219395
Legler talks about same deal ^
Seems like BS to me, but the rumor is catching wind. Kidd for Spares??
gotta be bull . did someone tap into mark cuban's wet dream?
You couldn't post this here?
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...0&page=1&pp=20
So we give up a good interior defender and only roll with Damp at center to bring back a 35 yr old PG making a lot of money and who can't play defense anymore. I would be shocked if this happens. The Mavs are always mentioned as a destination because of C Cuban's wheeler-dealer past when he first took over the team and because the Mavs are an elite team.
From the article:
And what is the source for this scenario? Did the writer visit RealGM's trade machine checker?One scenario would have Kidd returning to Dallas, where he started his career, and probably would include another team. The Nets, the source said, would get Devean George, DeSagana Diop and draft picks. Jerry Stackhouse may have to be added to make it work financially, but there likely is more involved.
I think this is bogus.
, I'd rather they do the KVH option and send that proposed contract to Miami for Shaq. But that would be contigent on Shaq accepting a buyout after the end of the season. I wouldn't want to be saddled with his contract.
Yes I forgot about the other Kidd thread. Oops.
Anyways if you don't do that for Kidd you're crazy. Thats junk for Kidd. And while I think this particular trade is far-fetched, I believe that the Mavs are one of the teams in talks with the Nets, haven't they been always interested in Kidd/ And if you're not even giving up your top 3 players.
Devean George and Diop?
I think Kidd's really overrated and all, but damn.
Why would the Nets do this?
We don't get enough points from our centers, but they give us good defense. Without Diop/Damp, we're Phoenix. I would love to be rid of Stack's contract, but that's too much for just Kidd. He doesn't play defense anymore and he can't shoot from the outside. Plus there's his contract. I'd want Antoine Wright or Sean Williams thrown in too, but I don't know if that can work under the cap.
you must live in fairytale land
I think Dallas has enough PGs, I dunno why they'd give up some valuable depth at the C spot to get another PG.
The PGs on the Mavs are more shoot-first, Terry and Harris. Kidd can dish the ball make life easier. It's not like he will be expected to be a scoring option on whichever team he goes to.
Maybe Terry is involved in the deal, don't see why they would want Stack. Even then, its robbery.
I think it's fairy-tale land to think the Mavs are going to trade away three rotation players for Jason Kidd when Devin Harris will be back in three weeks. We don't need Kidd -- Devin is a better defender and a better outside shooter. The only thing Kidd has on him is his passing skills and court vision. That's extremely important in a PG, but the financial ramifications and Kidd's age is why this isn't going to happen.
You tell me who is daydreaming.
If this is a serious deal, then the Nets are goddamn ing idiots.
And the Mavericks should do it in a ing heartbeat.
this is JASON ING KIDD. We're giving up spare parts and a center that has regressed beyond comprehension and is sucking so bad that I ACTUALLY PREFER SEEING ERICK DAMPIER IN THE GAME THESE DAYS. for one of the best pass-first point guards in NBA HISTORY. and we still keep Devin Harris and Josh Howard!!!!!! how the can any Mavs fan argue against this trade???!?!?!?!?!
and that's exactly what the Mavericks need. Along with Dirk pussing out, Terry playing like , no post presence, and so on, the biggest weakness the Mavericks have is that they don't move the ball nearly enough and rely way too much on iso plays. They won't win in the postseason unless they can get some ball movement going, and they have a chance to get one of the ultimate players at that skill.
Diop hasn't regressed, he's just in Avery's doghouse for whatever reason, just like Marquis was. 11 rebounds and 2 blocked shots yesterday against Denver. We're not getting 2002 Jason Kidd, and he makes way too much money.
I'm sorry but didn't the Mavs pass on Shaq 3 years ago because he was "too old" and we'd be able to win a championship faster without some old guy with a bad contract? How did that one turn out?
And we would have had to trade DIRK in that scenario! In this one, all we do is give up some bull we don't even need!!!!!
He'll want an extension and he's 35 years old. I would only do it if there was some way to get Antoine Wright or Sean Williams as well. Offensive efficiency hasn't been a problem for us this year, our defense has regressed, and that's even with Diop. Take him away and we're Phoenix. This trade would solve one problem and create two others.
If you've got an idea to keep us from downgrading our interior D while still getting Kidd, then I'm all ears. Phoenix has a great distributing point guard and nobody who can defend on the low-blocks. That doesn't work in the postseason either.
We'll still have Dampier, and I think Bass is more than capable of playing some minutes at center as well.
but this trade is a pipe dream and will never happen.
I look at it this way: Our core has gotten us up 2.75 games to none in the Finals, and they fall short again, changes will be made in the offseason. Mono has been arguing for a shakeup and he'll get one if the Mavs finish short of a le this year. Given Kidd's age, the fact that he can't guard Nash, Baron, Parker or Deron, his improved distribution skills over Devin is not enough for me to make this trade. Diop is a limited, one-dimensional player, but he can defend opposing bigs, and that's huge. There's too much risk. The only upside for me is being rid of Stack's contract, but that's cancelled out by taking on Kidd. And if you have to throw in draft picks, forget it.
Nuggets are said to be very interested in Kidd as well. They (or the Lakers) could probably offer something more attractive if that really is the mavs deal.
Our PG situation isn't so bad that we NEED to make this deal. My wishlist includes another low-post back to the basket scorer, or an athletic swingman that would make Stack expendable.
I haven't seen a scenario where this even comes close to working under the salary cap. There would have to be another 13 million coming from the Mavs to make it work.
Am I missing something?
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