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i think i'll pass. he's athletic but he has the b-ball IQ of a rock.
could we trade elson for him?
i think i'll pass. he's athletic but he has the b-ball IQ of a rock.
Elson and Barry.
Maybe.
I liked Swift's potential a few years ago, but I question his desire now, big time.
Maybe he could resucitate is career with the Spurs.
i think it be ok i mean its not like elson is going to be playing much the way it looks. and we wont lose anything with him
To quote our old pal Charles Barkley on Stro's BB capabilities:
"He can run and he can jump but so can a deer. I wouldn't put a deer on my basketball team."
Swift is stronger, Elson's got a better jumper. Everything else is just a wash as neither is anything approaching a Pop level defender.
Stromile Swift is pretty good in NBA video games. Thats about it.
Don't we want to get better when we trade?
No way I'd give up Barry for him. A straight up Elson/Swift deal would be a lateral move.
we need to at least land someone young who can go above the rim, and i dont mean swift
We have Ian, and he'll be playing about as much as Swift would.
ya i gues you are wright but i still thnik elson needs to go i mean he just doesnt seem to get better
Stromile is better than Elson. Not a huge upgrade, but still better. I wouldn't call it a lateral move, but I wouldn't call it that substantially improves the Spurs either. It's one of those possible things that you could say well if it happened, fine. If it doesn't, fine.
Yeah he hasn't gotten better, decent playing time could help. It's not like Spurs practice all the time. Therefore the only way players really get better is by attending shootaround and by actually playing in games.
He doesn't screw with the next cap plan so it wouldn't hurt that way. With any luck he would just opt out this summer. Still isn't really worth trading Barry or two other players for.
Stro Swift would never see the court and we'd lose Barry. This would make us worse, not better. All this trade talk has me wondering if we would a) trade someone like Horry, despite his history with us, or Oberto, despite the Argentine connection or b) if we'd be willing to take back a bad contract (assuming we'd trade it later) as part of the price of getting a decent player.
For example, the Bucks are shopping Gadzuric and Villanueva as a package. They really want to clear cap. In the short term those two players could potentially help us win a championship, but represent more of a risk than a sure thing. The second the season ended, Gadzuric would have to go back on the block and would remain there until we moved him.
Gadzuric would be a super back up center at 3 million a season; He's a huge burden at 6.
Now, I'm not advocating that we make such a trade. I'm simply asking if the Spurs desire to repeat would motivate them into this kind of deal? Are they willing to take this sort of risk?
Actually, upgrading Elson might be worth trading Barry and a couple scrubs for.
Barry is hurt.
And when healthy, hits 3s and not much else.
I really wish we could see some Ian tonight! With Elson and Oh Boy Oberto blowing it and Horry taking the season off it wouldnt hurt.
Right now Chip Engelland would probably have a better night on the court.
I'd rather go for a similar Grizzlies player on a much smaller contract...Hakim Warrick. Word is that he's not in their future plans and he has improved his offensive game to the point where he could be effective.
Grizzlies will trade Stro...then they will reacquire him in the offseason for a 3rd time
Strom for Elson no good on RealGM trade scenario
I use to be a fan of Stromile, but he doesn't seem to care when he plays.
If we want to dream, Kurt Thomas.
I disagree with that. Barry has proven to be a pretty exceptional playmaker on the offensive end as well. Him being hurt is a big reason the ball isn't moving very well for the Spurs right now.
But...he isn't getting any younger. Maybe he should be traded while he still holds some value.
I like Barry a lot, but he's not much more than a 3-gunner these days. Same as Finley.
Barry won't be back next year.
If he didn't get hurt, he'd probably be traded.
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