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    FBI wants palm prints, eye scans, tattoo mapping
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    FBI expected to award $1 billion contract to help collect data on people

    Privacy advocate says it's the first step toward a "surveillance society"

    FBI says it's needed to help track terrorists and other criminals

    Palm prints and optical eye scans likely to become more common

    From Kelli Arena and Carol Cratty
    CNN

    CLARKSBURG, West Virginia (CNN) -- The FBI is gearing up to create a massive computer database of people's physical characteristics, all part of an effort the bureau says to better identify criminals and terrorists.

    But it's an issue that raises major privacy concerns -- what one civil liberties expert says should concern all Americans.

    The bureau is expected to announce in coming days the awarding of a $1 billion, 10-year contract to help create the database that will compile an array of biometric information -- from palm prints to eye scans.

    Kimberly Del Greco, the FBI's Biometric Services section chief, said adding to the database is "important to protect the borders to keep the terrorists out, protect our citizens, our neighbors, our children so they can have good jobs, and have a safe country to live in."

    But it's unnerving to privacy experts.

    "It's the beginning of the surveillance society where you can be tracked anywhere, any time and all your movements, and eventually all your activities will be tracked and noted and correlated," said Barry Steinhardt, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Technology and Liberty Project.

    The FBI already has 55 million sets of fingerprints on file. In coming years, the bureau wants to compare palm prints, scars and tattoos, iris eye patterns, and facial shapes. The idea is to combine various pieces of biometric information to positively identify a potential suspect.

    A lot will depend on how quickly technology is perfected, according to Thomas Bush, the FBI official in charge of the Clarksburg, West Virginia, facility where the FBI houses its current fingerprint database. Watch what the FBI hopes to gain »

    "Fingerprints will still be the big player," Bush, assistant director of the FBI's Criminal Justice Information Services Division, told CNN.

    But he added, "Whatever the biometric that comes down the road, we need to be able to plug that in and play."

    First up, he said, are palm prints. The FBI has already begun collecting images and hopes to soon use these as an additional means of making identifications. Countries that are already using such images find 20 percent of their positive matches come from latent palm prints left at crime scenes, the FBI's Bush said.

    The FBI has also started collecting mug shots and pictures of scars and tattoos. These images are being stored for now as the technology is fine-tuned. All of the FBI's biometric data is stored on computers 30-feet underground in the Clarksburg facility.

    In addition, the FBI could soon start comparing people's eyes -- specifically the iris, or the colored part of an eye -- as part of its new biometrics program called Next Generation Identification.

    Nearby, at West Virginia University's Center for Identification Technology Research, researchers are already testing some of these technologies that will ultimately be used by the FBI.

    "The best increase in accuracy will come from fusing different biometrics together," said Bojan Cukic, the co-director of the center.

    But while law enforcement officials are excited about the possibilities of these new technologies, privacy advocates are upset the FBI will be collecting so much personal information.

    "People who don't think mistakes are going to be made I don't think fly enough," said Steinhardt.

    He said thousands of mistakes have been made with the use of the so-called no-fly lists at airports -- and that giving law enforcement widespread data collection techniques should cause major privacy alarms.

    "There are real consequences to people," Steinhardt said. Watch concerns over more data collection »

    You don't have to be a criminal or a terrorist to be checked against the database. More than 55 percent of the checks the FBI runs involve criminal background checks for people applying for sensitive jobs in government or jobs working with vulnerable people such as children and the elderly, according to the FBI.

    The FBI says it hasn't been saving the fingerprints for those checks, but that may change. The FBI plans a so-called "rap-back" service in which an employer could ask the FBI to keep the prints for an employee on file and let the employer know if the person ever has a brush with the law. The FBI says it will first have to clear hurdles with state privacy laws, and people would have to sign waivers allowing their information to be kept.

    Critics say people are being forced to give up too much personal information. But Lawrence Hornak, the co-director of the research center at West Virginia University, said it could actually enhance people's privacy.

    "It allows you to project your iden y as being you," said Hornak. "And it allows people to avoid iden y theft, things of that nature." Watch Hornak describe why he thinks it's a "privacy enhancer" »

    There remains the question of how reliable these new biometric technologies will be. A 2006 German study looking at facial recognition in a crowded train station found successful matches could be made 60 percent of the time during the day. But when lighting conditions worsened at night, the results shrank to a success rate of 10 to 20 percent.

    As work on these technologies continues, researchers are quick to admit what's proven to be the most accurate so far. "Iris technology is perceived today, together with fingerprints, to be the most accurate," said Cukic.

    But in the future all kinds of methods may be employed. Some researchers are looking at the way people walk as a possible additional means of identification.

    The FBI says it will protect all this personal data and only collect information on criminals and those seeking sensitive jobs.

    The ACLU's Steinhardt doesn't believe it will stop there.

    "This had started out being a program to track or identify criminals," he said. "Now we're talking about large swaths of the population -- workers, volunteers in youth programs. Eventually, it's going to be everybody."


    http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/04/f...ics/index.html

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    ...................waiting for pictures of tin hats and conspiracy theorist name calling.................

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    JekkaIsGoddess Jekka's Avatar
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    I had to be fingerprinted when I started working for the city (once when hired, and then another two times for each subsequent promotion ... like my fingerprints had changed then or something), and just found out that I could actually get in trouble for not reporting new tattoos.

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    January Championship Banner? td4mvp21's Avatar
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    Say o to Big Brother....

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    Too weird to live, and too rare to die. midgetonadonkey's Avatar
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    They can take my print if they want. Makes no difference to me. I don't do anything wrong.

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    They can take my print if they want. Makes no difference to me. I don't do anything wrong.
    you'll be easy pickins then. enjoy yourself

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    I Got Hops Extra Stout's Avatar
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    My fear is that ultimately the state will use this information to identify political opponents, and ensure that those opponents cannot find work, travel freely, find housing, use banks, obtain drivers' licenses, etc.

    And that one day, "political opponent" will mean anybody who speaks out against state policy in what will be a state with greatly expanded power. In other words, it would become the real-life version of just about every dystopian fantasy ever written.

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    My fingerprints are on file because I used to do DOD applications for our employees that worked in the 'black world' part of Lockheed in Palmdale.

    Jekka, that's dumb that you had to be printed again for promotions.

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    License to Lillard tlongII's Avatar
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    They've got my DNA because of all the times I've been arrested. Dammit!

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    Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Viva Las Espuelas's Avatar
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    just wail 'til may.

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    Basketball Expertise spurster's Avatar
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    Yes, don't forget the DNA!

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    Cinnamon Girl mrsmaalox's Avatar
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    They can take my print if they want. Makes no difference to me. I don't do anything wrong.
    print? I thought the smallest they did was fingerprints!

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    WTF is eye scans?

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    WTF is eye scans?
    retina scans

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    Believe.
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    Sorry, no tango

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    Hedo Layup Drill ShoogarBear's Avatar
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    They've got my DNA because of all the times I've been arrested. Dammit!
    They've got your DNA because of all the sheep they had to clean off.

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    Spur-taaaa TDMVPDPOY's Avatar
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    whats next they want a sample of my poo?

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    whats next they want a sample of my poo?
    I was about to post that.

    You beat me to it.

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    Siren with a Siren RashoFan's Avatar
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    Being in the service, the government has my DNA on file in case I ever had to be identified after and accident or whatever. Perhaps the government is working so dilligently on the perfect clone of me. Mwahhh Mwahhahhaah. Mwahahahahahaa

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    The FBI ed up before 9/11, allowing it to happen.

    Now they are ing up after 9/11, going to extreme measures to pad their careers and lasso bigger budgets and fancier toys.

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    It is what it is. Mark in Austin's Avatar
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    My fear is that ultimately the state will use this information to identify political opponents, and ensure that those opponents cannot find work, travel freely, find housing, use banks, obtain drivers' licenses, etc.

    And that one day, "political opponent" will mean anybody who speaks out against state policy in what will be a state with greatly expanded power. In other words, it would become the real-life version of just about every dystopian fantasy ever written.

    "Remember, remember the fifth of November."

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    This just keeps getting better and better.


    Culture of ing fear that we live in. Don't you just ing love it!

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    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    This just keeps getting better and better.


    Culture of ing fear that we live in. Don't you just ing love it!
    But, but but but....9/11!!

    Terraists!

    OMG!

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