Reply With Quote
ron paul
In the Repug WH, cronyism and political fealty trumps competence, yet again
"Team 3 staffers would come to believe that Zelikow prevented them from submitting a report that would have depicted Rice’s performance as 'amount[ing] to incompetence, or something not far from it.'"
"He is certainly not among the world's 'foremost experts' on al-Qaida, a topic on which he appears to have written nothing," wrote Salon's Joe Conason, "and he is very unlikely to have briefed the new administration on that threat."
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Book_D...etly_0131.html
dubya and head's epoch is down already as the worst WH in US history. And all the stories have yet to be told. Thanks to WH's destruction of evidence, they may never be told.
ron paul
We really, really need a new, full, and scientifically-backed examination of the events that took place 9/11....
In completely believe that the commission was a whitewash in many respects -- but not for the reasons most truthers believe it to be.
Well....for the most part I tend to agree....but people still need to know the truth....
But you've already done all that work remember?
Fascism is coming to a town near you.
ROFL
elucidate
please
for once
Girder.
The Torture Commission would be a more appropriate le for the original bush hand-picked commission...
LinkThe 9/11 Commission suspected that critical information it used in its landmark report was the product of harsh interrogations of al-Qaida operatives - interrogations that many critics have labeled torture. Yet, commission staffers never questioned the agency about the interrogation techniques and in fact ordered a second round of interrogations specifically to ask additional questions of the same operatives, NBC News has learned.
Those conclusions are the result of an extensive NBC News analysis of the 9/11 Commission’s Final Report and interviews with Commission staffers and current and former U.S. intelligence officials.
The analysis shows that much of what was reported about the planning and execution of the terror attacks on New York and Washington was derived from the interrogations of high-ranking al-Qaida operatives. Each had been subjected to "enhanced interrogation techniques." Some were even subjected to waterboarding, the most controversial of the techniques, which simulates drowning.
The NBC News analysis shows that more than one quarter of all footnotes in the 9/11 Report refer to CIA interrogations of al-Qaida operatives who were subjected to the now-controversial interrogation techniques. In fact, information derived from the interrogations is central to the Report’s most critical chapters, those on the planning and execution of the attacks. The analysis also shows - and agency and commission staffers concur - there was a separate, second round of interrogations in early 2004, done specifically to answer new questions from the Commission.
nice you're never going to live that one down....
But i meant what part do you think its a "whitewash"
for months, the WH didn't even approve of a commission.
And they only approved it after its charter was clearly cir scribed, and that dubya would testify only in the presence of head.
etc, etc, etc.
9/11 commissioners themselves had a list of items where the WH had stonewalled.
Specifically, we have no idea of the WH/NSA/Condi/FAA/FBI/etc reactions to the flashing red lights and months of intense chatter.
Obviously, 9/11 is fully the responsibility of dubya and head and their NatSec apparatus. There were guilty of NatSec dereliction of duty, asleep at the wheel, foretelling the lying and incompetence to come in their 2 wars.
The commission was designed to minimize the impact of the rather large amount of evidence that the Bush administration didn't take the terra threat seriously and was busy trying to retrench the US foreign policy in some neo-cold war stance that was focused more on Russia than Islamic fundamentalism. They deliberately and methodically de-emphasized the focus on terra that had previously existed at the cabinet level and ignored or hopelessly delayed suggestions and programs that may have at least made the US better prepared to react to 9/11.
But i meant what part do you think its a "whitewash"
Props for finally coming clean.
I said that before, but you're welcome.
Yeah, we need another commission for 9/11.
Look:
* Clinton administration ed up
* Bush administration ed up
* Senate Intelligence Committee (made up of Dems and Republicans) ed up
The original 9/11 commission was a bipartisan committee that wrote a report that minimized said ups.
There, and I just saved the country a couple million in the process.
Very interesting article from the WP....
Washington PostMichael Isikoff writes in Newsweek: "In the summer of 2003, Warren Bass, an investigator for the 9/11 Commission, was digging through highly classified National Security Council do ents when he came across a trove of material that startled him. Buried in the files of former White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, the do ents seemed to confirm charges that the Bush White House had ignored repeated warnings about the threat posed by Osama bin Laden. Clarke, it turned out, had bombarded national-security adviser Condoleezza Rice in the summer of 2001 with impassioned e-mails and memos warning of an Al Qaeda attack--and urging a more forceful U.S. government response. One e-mail jumped out: it pleaded with officials to imagine how they would feel after a tragedy where 'hundreds of Americans lay dead in several countries, including the U.S.,' adding that 'that future day could happen at any time.' The memo was written on Tuesday, Sept. 4, 2001 -- just one week before the attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
"But when Bass tried to impress the significance of what he had discovered upon the panel, he ran into what he thought was a roadblock -- his boss. Philip Zelikow, a respected University of Virginia historian hired to be the 9/11 Commission's executive director, had long been friendly with Rice. The two had coauthored a book. Rice had later placed him on a Bush transition team that reorganized the NSC (and ended up diminishing Clarke's role). At Rice's request, Zelikow had also anonymously drafted a new Bush national-security paper in September 2002 that laid out the case for preventive war
Jump to 2:00 trust me, it's priceless
Last edited by Nbadan; 02-06-2008 at 01:01 AM.
Well said.
"* Clinton administration ed up
* Bush administration ed up"
Fine with me, but that won't change the fact of the 100% coverup by the Repugs between Jan-Sep 2001. There were 8 months where the Repug Exec did absolutely nothing (that they will expose) about AQ. If there ever were such a real 9/11 commission, the Repugs would be destroyed while Clinton would be tarnished.
Such a commission will never happen because the estabalishment doesn't want it to happen. We The People can't handle the truth.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
