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I'd like to see the wording of the "rules" before pondering the effects of this. Talk is talk.
I'm hearing this on a couple of radio shows...
By opening his big trap and saying he's going to be waived and go back to Dallas is a violation of trade rules. Even if it was agreed to under the table he should have kept his mouth shut.
If the trade goes through and IF he's waived Stern may step in and tell NJ they can't waive him or if he's waived he can't go back to Dallas.
This trade has become a debacle. But hey, it's Dallas...
I'd like to see the wording of the "rules" before pondering the effects of this. Talk is talk.
They need conclusive evidence that Dallas & New Jersey conspired to do this, not just hearsay from Stackhouse.
Nice try.
Thats the very first thing I thought when I read his little "I ain't goin nowhere, 30 day vacation! woohoo!" quote
what a maroon.
from the Chad Ford ESPN chat...
Good luck with all that.If the league feels that the Mavs and Nets had pre-arranged a deal that would release Stackhouse and then gotten Stackhouse to agree to return to Dallas ... they might try to prohibit Stackhouse from returning to Dallas. To me the league would have to have direct evidence that it happened.
It's been really entertaining to see how insecure Sun fan is about this trade. Finding every way possible to downplay it and figure out any way possible to keep Stackhouse out of Dallas also.
"We don't have the newest superstar trade on the block anymore! Here, read this article about Steve Nash's shoes!!!!!!!"
Avery is pissed that Stack made those comments, as well, and thinks the league may frown upon what he said. But even still, good luck to them blocking it.
Oh, and Breath.
Stack already shot his mouth off and it's been pub'd.. There's not much more they need.
What Stack says isn't 100% indicative of any dealings between the two teams. They'd have to prove that if it comes down to it.
hearsay.
Stackhouse can easily back out of those statements. Say they were his own thoughts, not anything told to him by the front office, nobody conspired but he hoped it would work out that way, etc.
There's so many loopholes to stay out of trouble here it's basically a non-story. But I appreciate Sun Fan continuing to display their insecurity over this trade.
Mark Cuban said there was no chance of a Kidd-to-Dallas deal happening either.
Word of mouth by one person doesn't mean .
They need direct proof that those in charge of making this trade happen conspired to buyout Stackhouse and let him return in 30 days. Not just the words of a player who can easily claim total ignorance & speculation on the subject. Good luck with all that.
the best evidence would be Nets waiving him and Dallas trying to sign him. That's as conclusive evidence as any. At that point, the league might do something about it. Or try to ignore the matter
If Stackhouse said "Donnie Nelson told me........." then maybe this has legs.
But he didn't, so it doesn't.
After he's traded to the Nets, he's their responsibility. If the buy him out, then he's a free agent and obviously able to sign with any team. Stack just happens to not want to sign anywhere else and goes back to the Mavs after 30 days. No proof of any wrong dealings anywhere.
This whole George thing sucks for Stack. I bet he already had a flight booked for Hawaii for the next 30 days. I wonder if he's going to get in George's face for ruining his vacations...
correct, not enough evidence for a conviction. but enough evidence for su ion/investigation and possible halt to the signing.
Even without something like that, what's been said is enough proof to initiate an investigation, should it play out as Stack stated. They shouldn't be able to initiate any penalties unless they find better proof, but the league certainly has the basis to launch a nice, distracting investigation.
They can investigate all they want, but it's worthless unless they find some hard evidence. And Stack shooting off his mouth wouldn't hold up as a piece to convict himself.
It's not a violation of the CBA. This 30 day provision was put in after the Mavs traded for KVH and reaquired Alan Henderson after he was immediately waived by Milwaukee. If and when Jersey cuts him, he becomes a FA free to sign with any team. If he wants to go back to Dallas, he has to wait 30 days, whereas he would be available immediately to play for any other team.
Much ado about nothing. If Stern and the other owners don't like it, they can change the rules in the offseason. Right now, there's nothing wrong with it.
Stack could come out and say "Hey! you, Stern! I'm going to play along with this trade, some es, go to Disney World and whip my out on Space Mountain, get paid and then return to the Mavs in a month! Suck it!" and there's not much they can do to penalize the team. It's still just Stack running his mouth.
You don't think the distraction of an investigation could hurt a team? A serious investigation could cause numerous problems even without actually penalizing the team.
not only that. an investigation might delay things, which are already delayed because of George.
If Stack is not released by March 1. Forget playoffs.
Karma is a Cuban
Serious investigation?
Please.
It would depend on how Stack's 30 days go. If he starts turning down people's MLE money to sign a vet min with Dallas, there would be a fairly serious investigation. Considering some of the credibility hits the NBA has taken recently, it'd be necessary.Serious investigation?
Please.
If Dallas ends up paying the same as other teams are offering him, then there might be a token investigation or none at all.
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