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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...a_n_90167.html

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    Oblame the media! In the wake of Tuesday's game-changing defeats in Texas and Ohio (and hey, Rhode Island), Barack Obama is clearly steamed that the media turned on him. Yesterday in a media avail on his plane, he accused the media of being complicit in Hillary Clinton's "kitchen sink" strategy and allowing themselves to be "persuaded that you had been too hard on her and too soft on me." This, Obama seemed to feel, was clearly an injustice and had resulted in the press' abdication of their duty: "Hopefully now people feel like everything's evened out and we can start actually covering the campaign properly." Oh, snap! Step up, media, you really dropped the ball this time. (See video below.)

    This improper coverage he's referring to presumably includes Tuesday's press conference, which was variously described as "combative" and "contentious" during which he was "grilled"
    in "the toughest news conference of his campaign." According to the Washington Post's Dana Milbank, Obama's initial smile upon greeting reporters was "quickly replaced by the surprised look of a man bitten by his own dog." But according to accounts of that press conference, the questions seemed legitimately driven by the news cycle, given the recent (and evolving) story of the report of an Obama staffer's backroom meeting with the Canadian embassy in Chicago to reassure them over NAFTA (which has since been dubbed "NAFTA-Gate" in some quarters, which can't thrill the Obama camp), and the kickoff of the Tony Rezko trial this past Monday. Also, according to Chicago Sun-Times columnist Lynn Sweet, the toughness was helped along by the presence of some Chicago-area media who have covered Obama for longer and as such were not as "shy" about asking for specifics (she mentioned Sun-Times political columnist Carol Marin, who is cited in numerous reports on the press conference, along with Sweet, as being particularly inquisitive). The grilling sounds like it was more like a quick pan-searing, too — Obama cut off questioning with exasperation, saying (in the most-quoted line of the press conference), "Come on guys. I answered like eight questions. We're running late." Then he left. He didn't come back to talk to the press on his plane later, either.

    Like, eight questions! Press, get your act together. You've got a campaign to cover .

    Obama, the candidate almost always described as "cool," seems to be betraying more than a touch of annoyance lately. Now that the heat is being turned up, and another long slog looms ahead before Pennsylvania, it will be interesting to see not only how the press behaves with respect to both candidates, but also how Obama responds under the harsh new glare — and whether he submits himself to it willingly or continues his pattern of keeping the press carefully at arm's length.

    In the meantime, chief campaign strategist David Axelrod clearly knows that the best defense is a good offense, brazenly turning the media-favoritism meme around and throwing it back: "The point we want to raise is that the vetting of Hillary Clinton has yet to start and that the hard questions haven't been asked of Sen. Clinton. And as I said yesterday, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. We think that there ought to be the same standard held to both candidates."

    The same standard held to both candidates? Wow - dare to dream. In the next few weeks, we may just see it happen.

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    Political forum.

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    i don't think he hablas

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    That damn liberal media!!!

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    i don't think he hablas
    SI SE PUEDE!!!

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    He hasn't complained about the debate moderators yet has he?

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    Damn I never saw a person winning the fight with media.

    I thought he was smarter

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    Whats the point of this post? Hillary did it, it worked for her, now he's doing it.

    Welcome to politics?

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    Whats the point of this post? Hillary did it, it worked for her, now he's doing it.

    Welcome to politics?
    But, Obama is above old school politics.

    He said.

    He promised.

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    But, Obama is above old school politics.

    He said.

    He promised.
    No, Canada, don't worry. We're not going to get rid of NAFTA. We're just lying to those rubes in Ohio so they'll vote for us.

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    But, Obama is above old school politics.

    He said.

    He promised.
    A politician who lies.

    What are the odds?


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    They said, "you can't get away with claiming to be the candidate for change and for honesty, while telling voters craven bald-faced lies to get them to the polls."

    But we said, "YES WE CAN!"

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    They said, "you can't act all indignant when the press finally starts vetting you, after giving you a free ride for six months."

    But we said, "YES WE CAN!"

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    Please, Obama is very much above the kind of politics the Clinton campaign is running. She's throwing muslim out, running adds with a darkened picture of Obama and running attack ads like there's no tomorrow. She's making direct references to Obama being worse than McCain, whining about inequity of the media's coverage, pointing to Tony Rezco (which I find ing ironic as considering the clinton's scandal history) all while she has NO chance to win the nomination.

    Yeah, this is entirely the same thing.

    You ever make it to Obama's site to read what I linked you PeeWee? I'd bet money you didn't.

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    Please, Obama is very much above the kind of politics the Clinton campaign is running. She's throwing muslim out, running adds with a darkened picture of Obama and running attack ads like there's no tomorrow. She's making direct references to Obama being worse than McCain, whining about inequity of the media's coverage, pointing to Tony Rezco (which I find ing ironic as considering the clinton's scandal history) all while she has NO chance to win the nomination.

    Yeah, this is entirely the same thing.

    You ever make it to Obama's site to read what I linked you PeeWee? I'd bet money you didn't.
    Just curious---no judgement being made: have you read Clinton's site? Have you found any source of info that has no bias?

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    Of course I've read Clinton's site. My question at Pee Wee was directed at comments he made before about Obama not telling us how he planned to get things done. He has on his site and I linked Pee Wee to it. He made some excuse why he wasn't going to read it.

    I'm sick of the no substance behind Obama bull posts and how that is repeated through the media. It is ridiculous to take any talking points from any campaign at face value.

    Are there any non biased sources? I don't know. But there is a ton of information out there to be had for those that would actually like to inform themselves instead of wandering around like ignorant parrots.

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    Please, Obama is very much above the kind of politics the Clinton campaign is running. She's throwing muslim out, running adds with a darkened picture of Obama and running attack ads like there's no tomorrow. She's making direct references to Obama being worse than McCain, whining about inequity of the media's coverage, pointing to Tony Rezco (which I find ing ironic as considering the clinton's scandal history) all while she has NO chance to win the nomination.

    Yeah, this is entirely the same thing.

    You ever make it to Obama's site to read what I linked you PeeWee? I'd bet money you didn't.
    Yea, I went to his site.
    What's your point?

    Anyway, show me the proof about the muslim thing and all the other hillarious bull Bama supporters are spewing out.

    As for her chances to win the nomination, you forget about the Super Delegates and about the redo in Michigan and Florida.

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    The last total I saw included Super Delegates and had Obama on top, by a slim margin, but on top.

    And Billary doesn't want a redo in Michigan and Florida. She wants the delegates seated as is because Obama wasn't even on the ballot in those states.

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    Of course I've read Clinton's site. My question at Pee Wee was directed at comments he made before about Obama not telling us how he planned to get things done. He has on his site and I linked Pee Wee to it. He made some excuse why he wasn't going to read it.

    I'm sick of the no substance behind Obama bull posts and how that is repeated through the media. It is ridiculous to take any talking points from any campaign at face value.

    Are there any non biased sources? I don't know. But there is a ton of information out there to be had for those that would actually like to inform themselves instead of wandering around like ignorant parrots.

    I never said he didn't explain his plans on his website. I said he never explains it during his powerful, mind blowing, out of the stratosphere speeches.

    Great, he has a website. I'm sure he spent many sleepless nights working on the site. I'm sure he stood behind a typist making sure all his words were being recorded verbatim.

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    The last total I saw included Super Delegates and had Obama on top, by a slim margin, but on top.

    And Billary doesn't want a redo in Michigan and Florida. She wants the delegates seated as is because Obama wasn't even on the ballot in those states.

    Hillary would welcome a redo of the primaries.

    She does exceptionally well with Hispanics, which compose a large percentage of Florida's population.

    She does very well with working class folk, which compose a great percentage of the Michigan cons uency.

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    She does exceptionally well with Hispanics for a reason...

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