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  1. #1
    Mark in Austin
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    I really think this offseason we have built in enough redundancies to make up for Jack walking in every area but one.

    Jack was absolutely FEARLESS. I just don't see that in any other player on the roster, new or old. Parker has big nuts, Manu is amazing, Tim is the best, and Hedo looks promising...
    But when another team is tripling Duncan and daring others to shoot, the guy I know will never back away from the challenge and shoot his shot with confidence is Jack. Some people criticize him for this, but I think this is the best part of his game. Sure, he might commit seven turnovers in the first 3 quarters, but he doesn't let that effect him in the fourth. It's rare to have a player who can shake off a bad performance and bounce back like Jack does. I think that this trait is the most important thing he brings to the Spurs, and it is what the Spurs will really miss if he goes somewhere else.

    Is he worth the full MLE? No, but he's not a dime a dozen player, either.

  2. #2
    Temple Of The Dog
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    jax played with alot of emotion and heart. he came through big time... but i don't think jaxs would have been starting on any other western conference playoff team last year. he has alot of raw talent though. i'm going to miss him because he never took any crap from anyone...

  3. #3
    spurster
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    I dislike all the changes to the championship rotation. DRob, Speedy, and now SJax are gone, two starters and a key backup. I agree that SJax has a sweet stroke though, but unfortunately SJax also has a lousy agent.

  4. #4
    Temple Of The Dog
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    cool cartoon spurster... i think the guy needs more capspace though! and i echo the sentiment on speedy. i think we'll miss him more than we think.

  5. #5
    exstatic
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    Horry has got big nuts. Don't overlook our new dudes. If he is used correctly, he can be every bit as effective late in games as Jack was.

    I like Jack, and agree both that he is not an MCE player (yet) or dime a dozen. I think what the Spurs offered was not dime a dozen money.

    His agent is a , not like Babby, who has no interest whether their guys signs here or there, or for how much. Babby takes an hourly legal fee, NOT a percentage of the contract. If more players were smart, this would become the agent model for pro sports.

  6. #6
    SkinDogg
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    I will certainly miss Jack when he leaves.

    Going into the 2003 playoffs, the player I wondered the most about was Jackson. Tony and Manu both didn't seem to be scared of anything. Bowen didn't play that bad against the Lakers in '02. Robinson, Tim, and Malik had all been there before. I figured Jack would be a wildcard of sorts and might crumble under the pressure.

    Strangely enough, he came out of the gates better than anyone else with back to back to back 20 point nights. Then we saw him light up Dallas and the Nets in the game 6's. I also seem to remember him hitting two 3's in the fourth quarter of the game 6 against Phoenix and that he didn't play well for the first three quarters of it.

    It seemed like he was exactly what the team needed. Always getting them hyped up and making sure that they never gave up. Throw in his cluth shooting, his modesty, and his ability to work hard and it seemed like a perfect fit.

    Fvck you, Fegan.

  7. #7
    Ghost Writer
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    That's right, Mark. Homers always rag on me about my affection for ballas, but it's funny that the year we finally get a couple in Jackson and Claxton, we get two kids who sack up and get the job done in the playoffs.

    Jackson carried the Spurs on offense in the Phoeniz series and kept them in the critical Dallas game where Kerr went off.

    Claxton game in for Parker and bailed the Spurs out of the last two games of the Finals.

    That type of fearlessness is a commodity.

    Talent notwithstanding, I'm afraid the Spurs look awfully soft on paper next year.



  8. #8
    Spursman
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    Things I won't miss about Jackson:
    1> Butter fingers
    2> Bad at ude

    Don't get me wrong, I liked Jackson, but there were some things that rubbed me raw, these were the two main things.

  9. #9
    KoriEllis
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    Bad at ude


    When did Jack have a bad at ude?

  10. #10
    Ghost Writer
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    I think Spursman equates "bad at ude" with being young and black.


  11. #11
    travis2
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    you know...as far as I'm concerned, you just called him a racist...and I would expect much more evidence before you drop that bomb around anyone...it is just not something to toss around as blithely as you seem to do...

  12. #12
    KoriEllis
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    I am just shocked at the term "bad at ude" in association with Jack. He was an emotional leader, always pumping everyone up. He was sincerely appreciative of the chance that Pop and the Spurs gave him. He was a hard worker. He knew his role. He worked his ass off on defense. Yes, sometimes he got too "high" and need to be calmed down. Sometimes he got into turnover mode. But he saved this team throughout the season and many times during the playoffs -- particularly the Phoenix series and game six of the Finals. Whenever I interviewed Jack, he would always shake hands or say, "Thank you very much" when we were done. He was truly classy and thankful of being giving an opportunity to play in SA.

    This summer, he chose to let his agent completely handle his negotiations with the Spurs, which may not have been the brightest move of all time because it seems to have led to his departure from the Spurs. But "bad at ude"?? I just don't get it.

  13. #13
    Ghost Writer
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    travis, STFU.

    I object to you calling me someone who would call someone else a racist.

    There are certain posters where who simply hate ballas, plain and simple.

    Funny, I don't they were complaining when Jackson and Claxton were the only ones with enough b@lls to step up in big spots last seaosn on a regular basisi.


  14. #14
    SequSpur
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    I noticed there was an ad for a Silver Dancer Choreographer in the newspaper this Sunday. (Seriously)

    I think this would be a great position for Stephen Jackson. He is great at turnovers, he could turnover a few chicks here and there.. He is emotional, women like emotional people. He has always led the crowd during timeouts.

    I think he would be great for the job.


  15. #15
    travis2
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    GhostWhiner, come and make me...

    I think Spursman equates "bad at ude" with being young and black.
    Parse it however you like...you are dropping the racist card. And you've done it before...your whole shtick about "balla haters" is nothing more than trying to cow people into coming to your side by calling them racists. It is offensive and frankly I've had enough of you.

    There are so many REAL racists in this world that you and others that throw the racism card as though it were a frisbee do a great disservice. I wish you would just stop.

  16. #16
    SequSpur
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    GW hates white people.


  17. #17
    picnroll
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    Definitiely Jack was emotional and would get upset when he screwed up or when he felt he was getting jobbed by the refs and sometimes he needed to be reeled in to not stew about it and get re-focused. But ...

    In addition to losing Jack's clutch performances in the fourth where he stepped up his game and saved the SPurs bacon, we're also losing a very large part of the team chemistry. Jack was the chest bumping emotional leader of the team. He is the kind of guy, it seems, that every just wants to be around and feels better when they're around him.

    Jack you said you were going to play with Manu for the rest of your career. If it wasn't the FO but was Fegan that you let screw up things then you're a butt head.

  18. #18
    travis2
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    SequSpur, I'm not interested in getting into a "who is/who isn't" argument. I don't care for "racist" tags from anyone...

  19. #19
    Ghost Writer
    Guest


    travis, you little twit.

    How is Spursman a racist if he hates young, black basketball players?

    Don't speak for anyone else here, pal. You can hardly speak for yourself.

    I find it funny how a team notorious for being soft in the clutch is coolwith losing two of its only prime time performers.

    Anything to get rid of those ballas, huh?

    :Q





  20. #20
    CrazyOne
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    Umm, GW.. to claim that someone dislikes a player because they're black is, well, calling them racist...

  21. #21
    SequSpur
    Guest
    Actually trav.. its a legit argument. Some people don't like the balla style of some players ala Iverson, Sprewell, Jackson, etc. etc.

    Does that make them a racist? Possibly. GW is referring to the fact that all of these guys are bad azz ballplayers however they have this balla style about them and that may be clouding someones vision or stereotyping a player.

    If you overlook a players ability because of the bling bling or the street cred, then you should take up soccer or fishing or women's bowling..

    Its all about the W brotha. Screw the rest.

  22. #22
    travis2
    Guest
    You leave me speechless...

    I have never been accused of being politically correct...but even I can see the absolute idiocy of your statements and the harm you wreak thereby.

    How is Spursman a racist if he hates young, black basketball players?
    If I have to explain such a self-evident statement to you...then there is no hope of you ever understanding.

    I will not prove myself a hypocrite by calling you a racist. Merely a complete fool.

  23. #23
    adidas11
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    That's a load of BS, calling Jax a player with a "bad at ude"

    Can you specifically point out instances that Jax displayed this "bad at ude"? That would be very helpful in substantiating your claim.

    Pathetic.

  24. #24
    travis2
    Guest
    SequSpur, my post to you was basically saying "I'm calling him out for dropping the 'racist' bomb...don't you start either."

    I understand that some people don't like the "balla" style. And some of those who don't like the "balla" style may very well be racist.

    But what GhostWhiner is asserting is that anyone who doesn't like "ballas" is a racist.

    And notice he didn't use the term "balla" in the phrase I took issue with. He used young and black. Saying that someone doesn't like a player because he is young and black is calling him a racist. I'm sorry, but there is no other rational interpretation possible.

  25. #25
    SequSpur
    Guest
    "Bad At ude"???????? Definitely not.

    More like Bad Decision Making.

    Not only did he have 68 turnovers in the playoffs, he is now leading the league in losing a guaranteed contract worth millions of dollars.

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