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    Brilliant.

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    Wow.

    I'm impressed.

    He should run the world, it would be a much better place.

    He's better than Jesus Christ.

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    Sarcasm? Or, you really think it was brilliant?

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    Sarcasm? Or, you really think it was brilliant?
    Its by far the best speech any American politician has ever given on race relations. Has there ever been another American politician who's been as honest as he was there?

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    Too bad he didn't write it. Good speech though.

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    Wow.

    I'm impressed.

    He should run the world, it would be a much better place.

    He's better than Jesus Christ.
    He uses words that are too many syllables for your comprehension. Don't worry, I understand. I'm sure you watched all 40 minutes in that time frame though. Props.

    This is where you can tell me how Hillary's trips to Bosnia with Sinbad make her more qualfied even if Barak gives great speeches. Go ahead.

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    This is where you can tell me how Hillary's trips to Bosnia with Sinbad make her more qualfied even if Barak gives great speeches. Go ahead.
    Typical misinformation from an Obama cultist; Hillary flew with Sinbad and Sheryl Crow.

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    Too bad he didn't write it. Good speech though.
    Obama wrote most of the speech himself, according to his campaign.
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...ech/index.html

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    That's according to his campagin and it even says most of the speech. I doubt any major politician has wrote his or her speeches for the past 50 years. Do they have the time to think of all those rhetorical devices and the words for a speech like that, run a campagin trail, make public appearances etc... Who knows? My history teacher told me that he thinks the last speech that a candiate actually wrote was JFK's inaguaration speech.

    It's a good speech. I'm rooting for him.

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    That's according to his campagin and it even says most of the speech. I doubt any major politician has wrote his or her speeches for the past 50 years. Do they have the time to think of all those rhetorical devices and the words for a speech like that, run a campagin trail, make public appearances etc... Who knows? My history teacher told me that he thinks the last speech that a candiate actually wrote was JFK's inaguaration speech.

    It's a good speech. I'm rooting for him.
    He writes large portions of ALL his speeches. This is well do ented.

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    He writes large portions of ALL his speeches. This is well do ented.
    Okay, not trying to rag on teh guy, but I didn't know that.

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    No worries dude. I understand the skepticism in regards to politicians who do speech writing. We have a president who can't even deliver the speeches others write for him so its shocking when people find politicians who write their own words. They are not the norm, but they are out there.

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    That man has the balls to step up and play the game where his peronal stake couldn't be higher.

    dubya by contrast is a chicken weasel misunderstanding the speeches handed to him.

    and Hillary gets -slapped as a passive by-stander. I wonder what slime and spin her reaction willl bring. You're finished and outclassed and outsmarted and outvoted, Hillary, GTFO.

    I wonder how much play this will get from MSM beyond this evening?
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    dubya by contrast is a chicken weasel misunderstanding the speeches handed to him.

    At least he doesn't misunderestimate the terrrrrrissss.

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    Do you realize how much I've wanted a candidate who would speak the truth to the people? Who would admit things that aren't politically feasible to admit and to tell the people the truth about how complex some problems we face are. This is not a man who will say "you are either with us or against us" but who will listen and understand that sometimes right/wrong is blurred and isn't the same base don perspective.

    This speech is why words are important.

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    Most overrated speaker of all time.

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    Do you realize how much I've wanted a candidate who would speak the truth to the people? Who would admit things that aren't politically feasible to admit and to tell the people the truth about how complex some problems we face are. This is not a man who will say "you are either with us or against us" but who will listen and understand that sometimes right/wrong is blurred and isn't the same base don perspective.

    This speech is why words are important.

    He's a very charismatic speaker and it has worked on you. He is very likeable, polished politician.

    Hillary, on the other hand? Not so likeable.


    Whoever wins the election (democrat or republican) is going to inherit a LOT of crap to deal with.

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    Churchill, now that was a speaker.

    Tony Blair, A contemporary great.

    Reagan, and so on.

    I've heard preachers give better speeches than him.

    not impressed.

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    obama talks about issues that nobody else has the balls to address. i like this guy.

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    obama talks about issues that nobody else has the balls to address. i like this guy.
    if he was white, yeah i'd give it to you. but Bill Cosby is more outspoken than obama.

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    Its not even about charisma though. Look at some of the things he says.

    A lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one's family, contributed to the erosion of black families - a problem that welfare policies for many years may have worsened.
    A democrat candidate for president admitting the welfare state is a good part of the problem?

    That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of white co-workers or white friends. But it does find voice in the barbershop or around the kitchen table. At times, that anger is exploited by politicians, to gin up votes along racial lines, or to make up for a politician's own failings.
    Talking about how politicians use rhetoric to rile up votes. So ing true.

    In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience - as far as they're concerned, no one's handed them anything, they've built it from scratch. They've worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global compe ion, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they're told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time.
    You're telling me thats a politicaly smart thing for a black candidate for president to say?

    This speech goes so far beyond charisma. He didn't give it in front of a roaring crowd. This speech is so full of substance and truth its flat out amazing.

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    if he was white, yeah i'd give it to you. but Bill Cosby is more outspoken than obama.
    Wake me up when Cosby is a candidate for president.

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    I submit that if you do not realize how ballsy that speech was then you simply don't understand American politics.

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    I submit that if you do not realize how ballsy that speech was then you simply don't understand American politics.
    this guy transcends bravery and truth. in reality, these two other candidates don't belong in the same race.

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    I submit that if you do not realize how ballsy that speech was then you simply don't understand American politics.

    It's called damage control.

    And, if I had to give him a grade on it, I'd give him a B.

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