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    Now he'll be a restricted free agent this summer for the Clippers.

    All that development work for nothing.

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    Interesting. I'm guessing he was holding out for a rest of the season contract and didn't want to sign a ten-day contract. I was wondering why Miami was signing all those super scrubs instead of giving MW a chance.

    We'll see what Williams can do with the Clippers. I'm confident that the Spurs made the right decision since they got an up close and personal look at him for a long time. If they didn't think he was worth the relatively tiny amount of money it'd take to sign him for the rest of the season, they must not have been very high on him at all.

    We'll see, though. Williams was putting up big stats with the Toros. Then again, Mateen freakin' Cleaves just had like 45 points and 10 assists the other day so perhaps all the NBA and Euro call ups have taken their toll on the D-League talent level.

    The part that sucks about this is not having Williams in summer league next season. It was going to be interesting to see if he improved and whether he'd be good enough for a training camp invite.

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    It's really strange what happened with Marcus Williams.
    At first, Spurs liked him enough to draft him with the 33rd pick.
    Then they dislike him enough to waive him and to sign him only as a Dermarr Johnson and Keith Langford stop gap.
    At the end of the season, he shown some improvements but Spurs weren't even ready to spend $50K to keep him.

    Anyway, we will see what Marcus Williams will do and what Spurs will do or not do with their 15th roster spot.
    In 5 years, 2007-2008 will be remembered as the year where Spurs let Marcus Williams go and not the year where they let the nameless one go.

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    Interesting. I'm guessing he was holding out for a rest of the season contract and didn't want to sign a ten-day contract. I was wondering why Miami was signing all those super scrubs instead of giving MW a chance.
    All three of those signings were ok -- I'd put all three at about the same overall level as Marcus as far as talents and deficiencies go. Lasme makes me think of Linton Johnson when he first came in the league.

    We'll see what Williams can do with the Clippers. I'm confident that the Spurs made the right decision since they got an up close and personal look at him for a long time. If they didn't think he was worth the relatively tiny amount of money it'd take to sign him for the rest of the season, they must not have been very high on him at all.
    Given Barry's status, they should be high on somebody.

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    At the end of the season, he shown some improvements but Spurs weren't even ready to spend $50K to keep him.
    Yeah, $50K is about as much as a training camp invite for a halfway decent player. The Spurs have to have close to zero faith that he'll be a good player.

    I thought that the Spurs would have "matched" any full season offers for Williams, especially this late in the season. If for nothing else to keep him on the Toros


    All three of those signings were ok -- I'd put all three at about the same overall level as Marcus as far as talents and deficiencies go. Lasme makes me think of Linton Johnson when he first came in the league.
    I liked the Lasme signing actually. He's a good athlete and already a pretty good defender. Powell I'm not as impressed with as he seems destined for a D-League/Europe career. Ahearn is the surprising one ... but then again he probably can't be much worse than Quinn.

    Given Barry's status, they should be high on somebody.
    I like your Sean Banks idea. Although he supposedly has some off the court issues. At one point in time he was thought of as a future top 5 pick in the draft. Now he can't get a call up out of D-League when he's obviously one of the best players. Something might be up with him ....

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    Interesting. I'm guessing he was holding out for a rest of the season contract and didn't want to sign a ten-day contract. I was wondering why Miami was signing all those super scrubs instead of giving MW a chance.

    We'll see what Williams can do with the Clippers. I'm confident that the Spurs made the right decision since they got an up close and personal look at him for a long time. If they didn't think he was worth the relatively tiny amount of money it'd take to sign him for the rest of the season, they must not have been very high on him at all.

    We'll see, though. Williams was putting up big stats with the Toros. Then again, Mateen freakin' Cleaves just had like 45 points and 10 assists the other day so perhaps all the NBA and Euro call ups have taken their toll on the D-League talent level.

    The part that sucks about this is not having Williams in summer league next season. It was going to be interesting to see if he improved and whether he'd be good enough for a training camp invite.
    Didn't know Mateen Cleaves was still plying his trade somewhere.

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    Interesting. I'm guessing he was holding out for a rest of the season contract and didn't want to sign a ten-day contract. I was wondering why Miami was signing all those super scrubs instead of giving MW a chance.

    We'll see what Williams can do with the Clippers. I'm confident that the Spurs made the right decision since they got an up close and personal look at him for a long time. If they didn't think he was worth the relatively tiny amount of money it'd take to sign him for the rest of the season, they must not have been very high on him at all.

    We'll see, though. Williams was putting up big stats with the Toros. Then again, Mateen freakin' Cleaves just had like 45 points and 10 assists the other day so perhaps all the NBA and Euro call ups have taken their toll on the D-League talent level.

    The part that sucks about this is not having Williams in summer league next season. It was going to be interesting to see if he improved and whether he'd be good enough for a training camp invite.
    Cleaves is not even good enough player for Panionios of Greek league this year. He get cut middle of year by Panionios for poor play not able make it good enough in Greek A1 division. This NBDL is joke league cannot believe so many American fan think it better than Euroleague. It obvious even joke even compare to Greek league

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    No one ever said the D-League was better than Euroleague.

    Ever.

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    I like your Sean Banks idea. Although he supposedly has some off the court issues. At one point in time he was thought of as a future top 5 pick in the draft. Now he can't get a call up out of D-League when he's obviously one of the best players. Something might be up with him ....
    I guess we can see if there is any news on Banks in an hour an a half. The webcasts from LA are usually very good.

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    No one ever said the D-League was better than Euroleague.

    Ever.
    You need visit Rocket fan site. Many fan make statement "NBDL superior to Euroleague". This how crazy and dumb most Rocket fan are.

    Cleaves is poor player in Greek league not good enough be quality point guard and get cut and replace and he have 45 point 10 assist game in NBDL crazy

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    You need visit Rocket fan site. Many fan make statement "NBDL superior to Euroleague". This how crazy and dumb most Rocket fan are.
    rocketfans don't count for anything.

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    rocketfans don't count for anything.
    Why is so many Rockets fans so dumb and know zero about game also they know zero about basketball in Europe? They not even know each country have own league and think all league is call "Euroleague". How come they so stupid the basketball fan of Houston as compare the fan of Spurs?

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    Didn't know Mateen Cleaves was still plying his trade somewhere.
    Yeah, neither did I. I'm not even sure he knows he's still playing.

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    No one ever said the D-League was better than Euroleague.

    Ever.
    Just ignore his deep inferiority complex.

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    Just ignore his deep inferiority complex.
    What I say true most Rocket fan on the fan site of theirs have make statement "NBDL superior to Euroleague" but they not call it Euroleague on their site they calls it "Barn league".

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    The idea behind signing Williams (or another D-League project) was to have him with Spurs next year if he had a good summer and training camp.

    It's possible that Spurs aren't interested in that because they still know that they won't have a roster spot available for that kind of players.
    Spurs can carry 6 SG/SF. Manu, Bruce and Ime are under contract, Finley and/or Barry could be back and I think Spurs main focus next summer will be to add swingmen with the MLE and their first round pick.

    Signing Williams or another prospect isn't that interesting for Spurs if they think that it's almost sure that he will be cut at the end of the training camp.

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    If I had to guess, I'd guess that the Spurs just didn't see a way that Williams would translate to a perimeter player in the NBA. I saw issues with foot speed out on the perimeter, which is something that can't really be fixed. If they don't see him as capable of ever defending perimeter players, then any further money spent on him would be wasted.

    That said, $50K sounded worth it to me, all things considered. Keeping him on the Toros and keeping his rights for summer league made sense. Oh well. We'll see what he does on the Clippers. I'm sure he'll get some playing time.

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    Sanikidze is still aiming to be in the summer league, maybe this will open it up for him to shine this summer, before he rolls his ankle or tweaks a knee like always.

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    Sanikidze is still aiming to be in the summer league, maybe this will open it up for him to shine this summer, before he rolls his ankle or tweaks a knee like always.
    I'd throw my lot in with Viktor before Marcus just about anyday. If only for the size difference. But if we had no intention of bringing anybody else in then 50k for Marcus Williams makes sense. So why not? And Linton Johnson just got signed by the Raptors. He was the guy I've had my eye on this whole time. I just wish that the Spurs would actively look for a young swingman.

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    Sanikidze is too fragile. Even if he turned out to be any good I'd hate to be counting on him.

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    with the addition of Barry, how could they add Williams to the team? Aren't we going to have to deactivate someone if we activate Barry. How many guys under contract now?

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    anyone know what number he'll wear

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    Michigan State should have tried to call up Cleaves before last night.

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