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I'd bundle 3 players for Arenas -- Parker, Manu, and Finley.
Arenas is WAY better than what we have right now. That guy can score 30 in his sleep. Our guys can only score 30 if they play their very best.
Finley, Horry, Barry, are all way past their prime.
I know Barry put up an amazing game last night, but how many does he have left, not taking anything away from the guy, I think he's awesome, but he's 36.
Manu, ah Manu, he's an awesome player fun to watch, but god he's inconsistent.
We've got a 25 year old Tony Parker, cant we get a 25 year old Gilbert Arenas in at the starting 2? Manu reprising his role coming in off the bench for the 2 obviously.
This way when Tonys out, we can have Arenas trading pg duties with him.
Better then that god awful JV, and his passing and scoring are reminiscent of Barry, he's just 11 years younger!
He's testing the FA market, and obviously wants a max contract, I'm not up on the teams finances, can we even afford him? He's said he'd only return to washington if they resign Jamison. It looks like for all intensive purposes he'll remain a wizard next year...but for those who know Gilbert, nothings for certain!
HERE'S ARENAS PUTTING UP 60 AGAINST THE LAKERS
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hm2XO28YRYU
HERE HE IS DROPPING 54 ON THE SUNS, WITH A THREE IN OVERTIME RIGHT IN RAJAS FACE.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4w4vmUjNBFU&feature=related
i'm a noob dont know how to imbed, sorry.
Living in D.C. i've been watching this guy develop over the years, he's amazing.
Last edited by Rob123; 05-28-2008 at 02:46 PM.
I'd bundle 3 players for Arenas -- Parker, Manu, and Finley.
Arenas is WAY better than what we have right now. That guy can score 30 in his sleep. Our guys can only score 30 if they play their very best.
Gilbert can opt out of his contract. Why do we need to give anyone up? There should be enough room after horry, finely, and barry retire. We need someone to pick up the slack when the scoring drought sets in (this has been a problem for the last several years now). Sign Artest also, and we'll be good.
Last edited by Death In June; 05-28-2008 at 02:55 PM.
No.
1) The Spurs don't have ANY capspace.
2) Arenas will not take the MLE
3) Washington will not trade him for Barry+Horry+Splitter+case of Lone Star
4) I wouldn't trade Parker for Arenas straight up, and I wouldn't trade Manu for him either.
he can win games single handedly, and he's got speed.
Even with finley, vaughn, horry, barry, getting dumped, we couldnt afford him?
No
you would have to do a sign and trade
he lost games single handedly to
he thinks he is all that
LOL People think Parker's a ball hog. I can't imagine what would happen if a guy like Arenas was on the team, who only shoots 41% from the floor and chucks in volume.
The Spurs have $53 million tied up next season in the contracts of Tim ($20.6M), Tony ($11.6M), Manu ($9.9M), Bruce ($4M), Bonner ($3M), Vaughn ($1.26M), Barry ($1.26M), Udoka($1.1M), and Mahinmi ($1M). The salary cap is around $56M this season. Therefore, the Spurs will be left with the MLE (maybe $5.5M) to spend, which will likely be split between either Splitter or Thomas and a vet willing to take a paycut to play on a contender.
Arenas is a cancer. No thanks. We don't need to get rid of the Big Three + Bowen. We just need better, more consistent role players that are younger.
Ummm isnt Splitter a first round pick? That wont be MLE money spent on him. We dont have to use our mle to resign Thomas either.
Why are you guys so hot after Gilbert Arenas? Makes me think that you don't watch basketball.
This is a bad idea for a myriad of reasons, not the least of which is his enormous salary - which presumed will be in the Tim Duncan range. Didn't we see this movie before with the Spurs senseless pursuit of Jason Kidd? Why did Tim Duncan leave $$$ on the table? So the Spurs would have salary cap flexibility to be able to go out and sign complimentary players that could support them contending for a le in the years to come. He didn't make that sacrifice so the FO to go out and waste it on one player.
Second, are you willing to part with Tony Parker and Manu to make this happen? Because that is what it will take to make this happen. It's naive of any of you to think that you can trade "trash" for "acceptable goods". Face up to the fact that no team wants old, injury-prone, players. Also, Arenas isn't a point guard. So if you give up TP, who will take his place?
Third, how about on-court chemistry? Granted, Arenas is a talented player, but he aint a franchise player. He's always struck me as an unconscious gunner who is more concerned about getting his shot and points, rather than trying to fit in. Are you willing to sacrifice the team concept to support the selfish, on-court wishes of a ball-hog?
So if you're willing to accommodate these reasons, OK. If not, let's move on to something else.
Arenas? HAHAHAHAHAAHA he's a great player man but he's damaged goods.
You're right about Splitter and Thomas. Make that $54 million with Splitter on board, and we do have Thomas' Bird Rights since he's played 3+ years on his current contract.
Damn, that means the Spurs should have at least $16 million wiggle room under the luxury tax, with Full Bird Rights on Thomas, Horry, and Finley to use in trade (of course, the team would certainly have to take bad a bad contract to get anything of worth in a potential deal involving any of the three).
I guarantee you Arenas makes those jumpers that Parker was missing last night. And he's stronger and a more explosive scorer than Parker. Parker's good, but he's not Arenas.
I'd give Wash. both Tony & Manu for Arenas. and I'd be willing to deal either Tony or Manu for any of the Lakers guards. Shoot, I'd give Tony or Manu up for any of New Orleans' guards.
Under any other cir stances I would say yes but Arenas is damaged goods. If you are a real Spurs fan you can't seriously consider this idea. Or you know that's all.
I dont get the arenas haters out there.
Has he lost games for his team?
Yes
Has Manu lost games for his team
YES
Arenas scores day in and day out consistently, on an average team. Imagine how he'd do surrounded by duncan and bowen?
When he's healthy he's always been top 5 in scoring the leauge. Manu puts up good numbers ever 5th game. WE DONT NEED THAT
We need consistency. Plus since his injury he's worked on his passing and it's unbelievable i've seen it first hand.
Yes, I did not consider the fact that Arenas had major surgery on his knee, and didn't look good at all in the playoffs.
Provided he recovers, he'd be a huge upgrade over either Tony or Manu. He's a better shooter, harder to defend, and more consistent than either. And you put him in Pop's system and I guarantee he'd play some D. And he'd get more open looks with a legit big man.
I'd give away just about everyone on this roster, though, for a player at the same position on the Hornets or Lakers.
it get Artest too
There's not a player outside of Timmy who I wouldn't give away for somebody on Washington's, NO's, or LA's roster. Shoot, I'd take one Clipper for 2 Spurs.
LMAO
Arenas is a ballhog with a capital B. No way in .
think b4 u post
How is he a better shooter than Manu or Tony? He's a volume shooter. He shoots about 41% for his career. If Manu or Tony shot as much as Arenas, they'd lead the league in scoring.
Think before i post?
I live in D.C. I've seen him ball hog before.
After his injury he said he's worked on his passing.
Was skeptical at first. His first game back I was there against the bucs, he had 8 assists in 21 minutes.
Yeah a real ball hog he is these days. Have you seen him play recently? His shooting is off since the surgery but his passing is amazing.
Put him in a good system with a big man, timmy, and he'll thrive.
Plus even if he did stop the ball we'd end up with 30 points a night from him.
Who else gives us that consistent production outside of timmy?
I don't see how getting a legit star like Arenas (or Gordon) would be any worse than what we've got right now. His knee injury is a concern, though.
But we have too many aging, injured, inconsistent players. Time to get real players (like the Lakers have!) around Tim, and if we have to shed Tony, Manu, or Bruce, sobeit.
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