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Denver needs to shed salary, not just exchange it. They'll look for an appropriate partner, probably a team like not the Spurs.
I still say Camby would be great playing next to Duncan for the next two years. And more people are starting to talk like he might be in play. Is there any possibility that the money could be worked out?
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketb..._keep/?page=4#
About to get the Denver boot?
Marcus Camby's days as a Nugget could be limited, according to an NBA source, because he is the most attractive player they would be open to moving. It's no secret Denver is looking to trim salary after a disappointing season. Teams have shown little interest in Kenyon Martin and Nene because of their injury concerns and contracts. While the Nuggets would trade Allen Iverson, he is expected to exercise an option that will pay him a hefty $20.8 million next season. And while there have been rumors about Carmelo Anthony being moved, he is one of the most talented players and would be tough to replace. Somebody has to go, though. Camby, the 2007 Defensive Player of the Year, will make $11.25 million next season and $10.9 million in 2009-10. The 34-year-old averaged 9.1 points, 13.1 rebounds, and 3.6 blocks last season. He could be a fit for a veteran team in need of a big man such as Detroit, San Antonio, Miami, or Dallas. "You hear trade rumors every summer around this time," said Camby. "You just got to take it with a grain of salt. Denver is where I want to be. But I definitely want to be where I'm wanted."
Denver needs to shed salary, not just exchange it. They'll look for an appropriate partner, probably a team like not the Spurs.
Camby would be a great addition that can help the Spurs right away defensively, but with his addition it would really make it crucial that they find an offensive minded wingman.
I would love to have Camby in SA for the next two years....He and Duncan would be like a wall around our basket. It would also give Bowen and Manu more leeway on the perimeter to be aggressive. He would be an expensive option however......I doubt it will ever happen.
Trading players to shed salary is done with the notion that you are looking at expiring contracts and that whatever you take in return must show an annual match within 90% for at least one year. Camby is to receive 8 mil for next year so they will want to take an expiring contract(s) back of about 7.2 mil.
You could throw in Vaughn at 1.2 mil and do a 1 year deal sign and trade for Finley, or Thomas (most likely Thomas) at 6 mil.
let's say we signed Thomas
Then we trade Thomas, Vaughn and our smaller trade exemption for Camby.
Where does that put our cap?
I'm pretty sure that if you sign a player as a FA, you can't immediately combine him in a trade with other players.
You don't understand how desperate Denver is. They are at the TAX with only 5 players. They need to shed THIS SUMMER, not take on a few ending contracts.
If you throw in the Beno trade exception of 1.7 mil the returning salary must be 6.3 mil. Vaughn is at 1.2 mil so you are looking at a one year deal sign and trade of 5.1 mil. You could actually do this with Horry and then Horry could get cut. This works for Denver because they would clear the books of Camby by the ned of the year.
You cannot add the exception to a deal like it was a player. The exception must be traded straight up for one or more players. It can't be added to a deal to sweeten the pot or make the numbers match.
ok thanks for the clarification. i am definitely not a cap guru. that is why some of my scenarios may come across as outlandish. i try to be as reasonable as possible, but i just dont take the time to understand all the financial ins and outs of the cap.
i am not sure, but I think since Thomas would be our FA, we can do a sign and trade with him immediately. I think the rule you are talking about is in regards to signing players from other teams, or even players acquired via trade.
You're probably right.
Again, forgive me if I'm making myself look foolish - but I thought that I read that you CAN sometimes add an exception to a deal with a player, but you are NOT allowed to combine numerous exemptions in a deal.
Who exactly would the Spurs be sending back for Camby? Unless there is some mysterious non or partially guaranteed team option year on Horry's contract I don't see a way.
We would send Vaughn along with Thomas in a sign & trade for him. Or like someone else said, S&T Horry, so they can cut him and get the relief immediately.
However, I see the Pistons being a big player in the Camby sweepstakes. Dumars might give up a guy like Maxiell and expiring contracts to give the Pistons a Ben Wallace replacement they've been lacking the last 2 years.
wahat about to trade Splitter for Camby. it will give Nene room to develop, and in two years Splitter will come and they will have a Brazilian combo
Not possible.
If we are going to do a sign and trade for a team that needs cap relief, why not try and get Caron Butler from the Wizards? He would be a perfect Spur and solve our scoring needs and he plays D. He makes 8 million a year.
It's more likely the Spurs can nab a higher 1st round pick offering lux tax relief now rather than land a talent like Butler.
Butler is more of a SF, but I am sure he could play SG. He would definitely give us a seasoned, but young versatile option. He plays defense and can score inside and out. He wouldn't be a bad option.
too bad we cant afford Camby and Butler.....cause if we could, our lineup would be totally sweet.
C - Camby, Oberto
PF - Duncan, Mahimni
SF - Bowen, Udoka
SG - Butler, Manu
PG - Parker, Barry
OK, how do the Spurs trade for Camby?
Not going to happen unless there is a 3rd team around and the Spurs simply dont' have the assests.
BUtler or Camby...its a blessing if we can get either of em. But I doubt it will happen...we just never ever spend over luxury tax so the owner will make more money and the fans keep worrying coz other team seems to build up
Well, the main problem is that they won't be able to trade for either of them.
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