It's a load of garbage
Manu was no more injured than Kobe or Fisher have been...it's just a weak excuse. Yeah Manu wasn't 100% but Kobe is going to need surgery for his injury and Fisher was hardly 100% either.
Why is it teams can't use excuses in past seasons when their guys were hurt but when it happens to the spurs It's ok to use the injury card? it's double standards.
please people, shut the up about Manu so called injury. Even if he was 100% the spurs would not of won the series, they were simply overmatched
we were lucky to win the Hornets series, we got by that on pure experience and the fact the Hornets don't have a good enough shooting guard....
BTW using Manu injury as an excuse is foolish when Laker fans can say they would of swept us If they had a healthy Andre Bynum.
Why bother coming here saying "we" like you are a Spurs fan? Every post you've ever made has been anti-Spur. And aren't you the same genious that said this about the Spurs beating the Rockets and Mavs?
But I forget... you're a former basketball star yourself:
Not just a Spur hater. A -for-brains Spur hater.
Last edited by GSH; 06-03-2008 at 09:01 AM.
double pump reverse dunks = healthy
flat-footed three balls = not healthy
You don't deserve a real answer. So just get the off
You don't have a real answer, thats why
Just more excuses coming out of stupid fans who can't admit they got beat by a better team
disgraceful
Agree, manu played a great game in game 3 so he looked all right in that game. I saw him take it strong to the basket on occasion in the series so he was able to do it.
I don't know what he was feeling in the ankle but if he was all that injured were he could not be effective he should not have played.
The lakers did not have Bynum and they still won 4-1. They were the better team.
Are you ing stupid or what? Seriously now, I'm not trying to be a but Manu's game is slashing to the basket. When you can't get any push off of an ankle it is kind of hard to do that. How many dunks did he have this series? How many times did Radmanovic blow past him? How many times did he stumble when executing a crossover because he couldn't get any weight on that ankle? Dude was playing on guts alone, if his 3 wasn't falling then he was useless. Did he cost us the series? Maybe, but that's because Pop chose to keep him in every game when it was clear he just didn't have his game. It's kind of hard to win a series when the guy who is IMO our best player is completely useless and cannot even take it up strong at the rim. An ankle injury and basketball is probably the worst kind of injury you could have, if you've ever actually played you would know that. Yeah you can occasionally do things you normally would, but for the most part it feels like the ing thing is going to give out on you. Take away one of Kobe's ankles and watch him be turned exclusively into a jump shooter
that's some mighty potent stuff you're drinking, my friend.
the spurs got beat, that's true. the lakers might be better, that's also true. but i don't buy the crap that the spurs got beat simply because the lakers were better. how do you think the series would have turned out had manu been, at the very least, average?
I agree. It's refreshing to here a Spurs fans take the "L" like a true champion. We still have a shot next year but a key trade is important.
Honestly he is right.
thats what seperates manu from kobe. GREAT players will play great thru the pain. (Jordan,Isaiah,Duncan,Kobe)
other players let thier injurys effect thier game too much for the worst
when Radmanovic and Peja can guard Ginobili without getting embarrassed = Manu nowhere near 100%
I say the same thing every year, whether we win or lose.
A championship is made up of the following:
A. Teamwork
B. Skill
C. Luck
D. Lack of injuries
E. Intestinal For ude
In 2000, we all know about TD's injury.
2000-02, I think everyone can agree that A & B were on display with the Lakers.
In '03 luck was on our side because of Horry's shot somehow rattling out of the rim, despite the fact it had more than halfway gone through. DRob pointed this out on the championship DVD when he talked about getting breaks that you normally don't get.
In '04, luck was DEFINITELY not on our side. cough cough .04 cough cough
In '05, our finest championship team in my opinion, A&B were on full display when we beat the Pistons in 7.
In '06, a combination of C&D (TD's plantar fasciitis and Manu's foul) worked against us in game 7 of the WCF.
In '07, despite the fact we had a better team, I think that our intestinal for ude was clearly evident because we had heard all year how old we were getting (Pop getting up and saying "I don't give a sh**." when asked if he thought we would repeat).
This year, I just think that intestinal for ude, teamwork (which didn't start coming around until our Utah victory at the end of the regular season), and skill weren't enough to overcome injuries and a new factor for us, and that was exhaustion. Plus, having the reigning MVP on your team who rips the throat out of an opposing team when he smells blood didn't hurt the Lakers either.
So overall, I think we did the best that we could with what we had. Like TimVP, I'm proud of the guys for making it as far as they did. I would have loved to see another championship, but I think that years like this make championships that much sweeter.
I say the same thing every year, whether we win or lose.
A championship is made up of the following:
A. Teamwork
B. Skill
C. Luck
D. Lack of injuries
E. Intestinal For ude
In 2000, we all know about TD's injury.
2000-02, I think everyone can agree that A & B were on display with the Lakers.
In '03 luck was on our side because of Horry's shot somehow rattling out of the rim, despite the fact it had more than halfway gone through. DRob pointed this out on the championship DVD when he talked about getting breaks that you normally don't get.
In '04, luck was DEFINITELY not on our side. cough cough .04 cough cough
In '05, our finest championship team in my opinion, A&B were on full display when we beat the Pistons in 7.
In '06, a combination of C&D (TD's plantar fasciitis and Manu's foul) worked against us in game 7 of the WCF.
In '07, despite the fact we had a better team, I think that our intestinal for ude was clearly evident because we had heard all year how old we were getting (Pop getting up and saying "I don't give a sh**." when asked if he thought we would repeat).
This year, I just think that intestinal for ude, teamwork (which didn't start coming around until our Utah victory at the end of the regular season), and skill weren't enough to overcome injuries and a new factor for us, and that was exhaustion. Plus, having the reigning MVP on your team who rips the throat out of an opposing team when he smells blood didn't hurt the Lakers either.
So overall, I think we did the best that we could with what we had. Like TimVP, I'm proud of the guys for making it as far as they did. I would have loved to see another championship, but I think that years like this make championships that much sweeter.
if Manu had played 100% we would have won the series. end of story.
IF, IF, IF....if wishes were fishes, the world would be an ocean
Manu was injured but we did not lose because of that alone. But it was clearly part of the reason why we lost.
Oh, and rascal, nice to see you posting so much again. I guess it has nothing to do with the Spurs losing . . .
because if you watched the game it was obvious.
They would have. But, happens.Even if he was 100% the spurs would not of won the series
You're a ing joke. Manu was injured and if he wasn't we would have had better results against the Lakers. Bynum or no Bynum. The Laker bigs didn't kill us it was the guard play.
If you can't see what impact a healthy Manu would have had, then go back and watch the Finals from last year or the 2005 Championship. Just admit you are a Lakers fan and you are holding on to the biggest series win since the last time you and that Geriatric Hall of Famer team was put together in 2004.
The East will get the Larry O'Brien trophy this year in the Celtic's easiest series of the playoffs. They have the Defense and the offensive power to finish you in 5. Damn, I don't know what's worse...losing in the WCF or losing in the Finals. Hey, second place aint bad right ? Pssht. Your Lakers are going to get crushed.
Very weak attempt at trolling.
Somebody brought it up and didn't make me think about it before now. We can say IF Manu was healthy but indeed, the Lakers could also say IF the Lakers were healthy.
1) IF Kobe didn't need hand surgery, he would have played better
2) IF Bynum was healthy, the Lakers could have used him with Duncan and Pau scoring at will over Fabricio
3) IF the Spurs hadn't lost those scrub games, they would have had home court advantage
4) IF the Lakers hadn't lost those scrub games, they would have take back home court advantage in #3. etc, etc.
Manu might have changed the 4-1 to 4-2 but the series was never really in jeopardy after that Game 1 comeback.
Injuries are part of the game, nobody's 100% healthy at this point in the year when games just seem to pop up every other night....back 2 backs too.
Last edited by Allanon; 06-03-2008 at 01:16 PM.
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cause we could have used this guy for the whole playoffs not just the laker series
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