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Lakers will be 0-2 in their last couple finals appearances
Laker haters and ref defenders want to say that the Celtics got the free throws by being more aggressive in Game 2. Wrong! The Lakers were just as aggressive and received almost 75% less FTs to show for it:
Celtics:
45 perimeter shots
23 shots in the key
38 free throws
Lakers:
42 perimeter shots
41 shots in the key
10 free throws
Lakers will be 0-2 in their last couple finals appearances
That may be true, I never said the Lakers were better than the Celtics this year. But this idea that all they do is shoot jumpshots is a joke. They are in the paint as much as anyone else.
Lakers got hosed tonight, but I feel no sympathy especially when on other boards the Laker fans talk smack to me when I whine about the 2006 finals. not to mention the Gasol trade was rigged and the Lakers were beneficiaries of officiating in the Jazz series and in game 4 against the Spurs.
Just enjoy the games.....soon the series will be all over. I'm enjoying it, even though they are losing, who cares really. They'll play better at home but it still might not be enough given their lack of inside depth at this time. No worries. Just enjoy the games.
It's a conspiracy!
When did I mention a conspiracy?
Bron shot 90 FT's in the conference semis so it is a bit odd that Lakers aren't getting to the line more.
Like I said, it's the illusion of the Celtic defense that is causing this disparity. When they swarm a guy that comes into the lane it makes it hard for the refs to see the foul when it happens.
In the 4th quarter, when Odom was taken out of the game the Lakers were able to space the floor better by having another shooter out there. Kobe was able to get to the rim easier and even got a few foul calls as a result. I think a few of his shots would have been rewarded with foul calls if he had missed them too.
I'm not saying the officiating was fair, but just because the Lakers took more shots in the lane, it doesn't mean they should have gone to the line more. Plus, if you look at that discrepancy, it's not that surprising because a lot of the times the Celtics took shots in the paint and were missed ended up becoming free throws and don't count as shot attempts.
Moreover, there are different types of shots in the key. The Lakers could have shot a number of shots in the key but they could have still been short jumpers or hook shots or shots close avoiding contact. Whereas the Celtics are obviously trying to get contact and get those whistles.
Again, I'm not saying the officiating was fair. It looked pretty lopsided. But, you can't just spit out numbers to make a point. Stats don't tell the whole story, even as it pertains to which team was more aggressive attacking the basket.
Totally agree. It's all about the illusion you create on defense. If your players look like they are just swiping at the ball a foul will probably get called. If you swarm a guy and do subtle things like bump him on the way up or tap him on the arms as he is about to elevate they are less likely to get called.
The Lakers need to understand this and make the necessary adjustments. You can see the Lakers are starting to get a feel for how to combat this incredible Celtic defense. They have been able to pack in the paint because Odom is a non threat, the second Jackson removed him and replaced him with a shooter the entire world opened up for Kobe. He started getting the same looks he has been getting all playoffs long because KG can't just leave Radman wide open for 3's.
If the Lakers are going to get back into this series it will have to be with big changes to the lineup that force the Celtics to stretch their defense out more to allow Kobe more room to operate. The fouls will come as Kobe is given that space and allowed to get closer to the rim.
God you are a tool
The Spurs aren't in the Finals and were soundly defeated by the Lakers 4-1.
God you are a tool
Spurs are still the defending champions. Lakers haven't won . Boston beats them they are going fishing too. What's your point?
sad that it will be for nothing
The Lakers are the softest team to make the Finals in NBA history. Talented but soft as charmin. The toughest player on the Lakers is from France. When France is representing your strength, your team is soft.
Don't front.
when people talk about the lakers on the perimeter, i think they mean that no one is able to drive from the 3 pt line and get a layup on the Cs. kobe has not been able to get deep into the paint, its all midrange Js. all fish, radman, and vujacic are getting are jumpers. the lakers are able to get some inside points when they move the ball, but they havent been doing it/ able to do it on a consistent basis.
but, all i hear people talk about is what the lakers are getting, or could get on offense, why is no one mentioning the defense ? that is their biggest problem. boston is getting almost anything they want.
boston is a bad match up for the lakers IMO because of the way they are constructed. the big 3 pretty much fit perfectly together and bring different things to the table on offense, and then have a speedy PG who can penetrate the D and create. it seems only the cavs had a team constructed that could severely limit what they like to do on offense.
Yes it does. If you actually watched 1st half the Lakers were getting no calls in the paint while the whistle blew every possesion in the 2nd quarter for the Celtics. And we're talking complete touch fouls here. The game was hilariously unwatchable for like a 20 minute stretch.
In this case the numbers do tell the story because of the argument that "Lakers are settling for jumpers thus no fta" is utter bull .
Good objective thread.
You guys got ed last night.
Now you know how it feels.
Leon Powe gets more FT's than your ENTIRE team!!!!!
LOL I should have known better than to expect non-Laker fans to even care. I bet 90% of viewers are simply watching this series to see LA lose and could care less about the integrity of the game.
"When I asked if I could in her face, she said no"
"That's my thing, not always, I mean, so I stopped"
"I said um, give me a blow job, um, and then....kiss it.....she gave me a blow job."
"Whatever I need to do without making this thing become public, I will do man. I don't care what it is man, I will do it"
"I asked if I could in her face and she was like no um, I thought she was cool, you know, I stopped. I stopped pumping..."
"I'm nervous right now my hands are shaking"
"She wasn't that attractive"
"I jerked off when she left"
"I should have done what Shaq does. Shaq gives them money or buys them cars, he has already spent one million dollars"
"She didn't bleed, did she?"
What integrity? WTF are you talking about? This ed up league has zero integrity. This league rehired felon refs that it previously fired for defrauding the NBA and were convicted of perjury and tax evasion. Last summer it had a ref fixing games. The same good old boy refs show up to "call" the games. There is no system of replay to overrule bad calls and no calls. This is the only league where the term conspiracy is constantly smeared. This league has no integrity.
And I do not know why you are ing. The Lakers have been the beneficiaries of so many "favorable" things in the NBA. Gasol quickly and mysteriouly "donated" to the Lakers for ; the manipualtion of Shaq to the Lakers; and before that Jabbar.
You and the Lakers have no room to the integrity of the NBA.
So the refs are the reason the Lakers beat the Spurs 4-1?
Poor Lakers.
Bashing the French now
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