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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    Looks like Cheney is getting the U.S. into the Georgian-Russia conflict by using American transport planes to fly the 2000 Georgian 'peace-keepers' in Iraq back home to fight 'Russian aggression'..

    Cheney: Russian action 'must not go unanswered'

    WASHINGTON - Vice President Cheney says Russia's military actions in Georgia "must not go unanswered."

    Cheney spoke Sunday afternoon with Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili. "The vice president expressed the United States' solidarity with the Georgian people and their democratically elected government in the face of this threat to Georgia's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Cheney's press secretary, Lee Ann McBride, said.

    Cheney told Saakashvili "Russian aggression must not go unanswered, and that its continuation would have serious consequences for its relations with the United States, as well as the broader international community," McBride said.
    Yahoooooooo

    Normally he waits for his corporate M$M shills to read his war statements...

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    For head, war is corporate makework, corporate welfare, all no-bid, all without controls and monitoring, in total secrecy.

    Corporate profits are the end, war is just the means.

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    Looks like Cheney is getting the U.S. into the Georgian-Russia conflict by using American transport planes to fly the 2000 Georgian 'peace-keepers' in Iraq back home to fight 'Russian aggression'..

    Cheney: Russian action 'must not go unanswered'



    Yahoooooooo

    Normally he waits for his corporate M$M shills to read his war statements...
    LMAO, everyone in D.C. was onboard with us providing transport for the Georgian troops back to their country, yet we're back to HALLIBURTON!

    Typical libs...

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    Letting these soldiers leave quickly from fighting a war the U.S. started, so they can go back and defend their own homeland is bad?

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    Letting these soldiers leave quickly from fighting a war the U.S. started, so they can go back and defend their own homeland is bad?
    Yes, this is all clearly to increase profits at Halliburton for Cheney. We should have kept the Georgian troops in Iraq against their will, piss off them and their country, just to make Dan feel better

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    Georgia is much more of a terrorist threat to Russia than Iraq ever was to the US. This is the problem with Bush's war-- it makes every other country on the globe feel more justified in doing these kinds of things.

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    Georgia is much more of a terrorist threat to Russia than Iraq ever was to the US. This is the problem with Bush's war-- it makes every other country on the globe feel more justified in doing these kinds of things.
    You simply don't know a damn thing about what you're talking about.

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    hmmm.........doesn't he?


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    It's Raining Nazis--Continued
    Joe Klein


    When a column starts off like this:

    "The details of who did what to precipitate Russia's war against Georgia are not very important. Do you recall the precise details of the Sudeten Crisis that led to Nazi Germany's invasion of Czechoslovakia? Of course not, because that morally ambiguous dispute is rightly remembered as a minor part of a much bigger drama.

    "The events of the past week will be remembered that way, too."

    ...the author has got to be a neoconservative pushing for the next war. In this case, it's Robert Kagan, girding for a new twilight struggle with the Sovi...uh, sorry: that was a couple of twilight struggles ago...Russia. Kagan is smart and modulated in this case. He carefully lays out the U.S. and European Union initiatives in Eastern Europe that have led to the Russian pushback. Most of the western actions have been morally justified support for the new democracies--and Georgia may be the most heart-warming example--in the region; others, including the costly and technologically untenable missile defense system fantasized by Bush, have been unnecessarily provocative. And Kagan's (right)wingman, Bill Kristol, is similarly modulated in the NY Times:

    "The good news is that today we don’t face threats of the magnitude of Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Each of those regimes combined ruthless internal control, a willingness to engage in external aggression, and fervent adherence to an extreme ideology. Today these elements don’t coexist in one place. Russia is aggressive, China despotic and Iran messianic — but none is as dangerous as the 20th-century totalitarian states."

    But don't let that fool ya. With Word War IV--Norman Podhoretz's ridiculous oversell of the struggle against jihadi extremism--on a slow burn for the moment, Kagan et al are showing renewed interest in the golden oldies of enemies, Russia and China. This larval neo-crusade has influenced the campaign of John McCain, with his comic book proposal for a League of Democracies and his untenable proposal to kick the Russians out of the G8.

    ...

    But it is important, yet again, to call out the endless neoconservative search for new enemies, mini-Hitlers. It is the product of an abstract over-intellectualizing of the world, the classic defect of ideologues. It is, as we have seen the last eight years, a dangerous way to behave internationally. And it has severely damaged our moral authority in the world...I mean, after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, after Abu Ghraib, after our blithe rubbishing of the Geneva Accords, why should anyone listen to us when we criticize the Russians for their aggression in the Caucasus?
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    The Jewish Lukid Neo-Cons are there...

    Jewish Georgian minister: Thanks to Israeli training, we're fending off Russia
    By Haaretz Service

    Jewish Georgian Minister Temur Yakobshvili on Sunday praised the Israel Defense Forces for its role in training Georgian troops and said Israel should be proud of its military might, in an interview with Army Radio.

    "Israel should be proud of its military which trained Georgian soldiers," Yakobashvili told Army Radio in Hebrew, referring to a private Israeli group Georgia had hired.

    <snip>

    "The whole world is starting to understand that what is happening here will determine the future of this region, the future price of crude oil, the future of central Asia, and the future of NATO," the Georgian minister added.

    According to him, "every bomb that falls over our heads is an attack on democracy, on the European Union and on America."
    Haartez

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    Now now, you can't supply neo cons with actual information -- they'll just ignore it completely, or take one little tidbit about it and proclaim it as non-sense and "unamerican" then proceed to go on an entirely different tangent.

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    Check this out....the Ajerbaijan Chamber of Commerce...


    HONORARY COUNCIL OF ADVISORS



    James
    Baker III


    Zbigniew
    Brzezinski


    Henry
    Kissinger


    Brent
    Scowcroft



    John
    Sununu

    CO-CHAIRMEN OF THE BOARD

    James A. Baker, IV
    Partner, Baker Botts, L.L.P.

    Reza Vaziri
    President, R.V. Investment Group



    BOARD OF DIRECTORS

    Shapoor Ansari, MD

    Halim Atesh
    General Manager, Azercell Telecom

    Farhad Azima
    Chairman & CEO, Aviation Leasing Group

    Scott Blacklin
    Vice President, Cisco Systems

    Betty Blair
    Editor, Azerbaijan International

    Jahangir Hajiyev
    Chairman, International Bank of Azerbaijan

    Charles Koontz
    Senior Vice President, SAIC

    Robert Livingston
    President, Livingston Group

    Albert Marchetti
    Vice President, Hess Corporation

    Greg Saunders
    Director, International Affairs, BP

    Diana Sedney
    Manager, International Government Relations for Chevron

    Michael White
    Azerbaijan Country Manager, ExxonMobil International Limited

    Gregory K. Williams
    Strategic Security Manager, Coca Cola



    FORMER MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS

    The following individuals of high distinction have previously served on the Advisory Council and the Board of Directors:

    Cheney
    Vice President of the United States of America

    Richard Armitage
    Deputy Secretary of State



    BOARD OF TRUSTEES

    Ilham Aliyev
    President of Azerbaijan.

    Abdullah Akyuz
    President, TUSIAD-US Inc.

    Graham Allison
    Director, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs
    Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University

    Sam Brownback (R-KS)
    US Senator

    Frank Henke
    Chairman, American Bank & Trust Company

    Richard Moncrief
    Chairman, Moncrief Oil International

    Hafiz Pashayev
    Deputy Minister, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Azerbaijan

    Richard Perle
    American Enterprize Ins ute, former Assistant Secretary of Defense

    Frank Verrastro
    Director and Senior Fellow in the CSIS Energy Program



    OFFICERS

    Mahir Iskender - USACC
    Executive Director

    Legal Counsel
    Baker Botts, L.L.P.
    Linky

    It's like a whos'-who list of goolish Neo-Cons

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    You simply don't know a damn thing about what you're talking about.
    Actually, yes, I do. Russia has had terrorist actions in Moscow and other Russian cities that are directly linked to Georgian extremist groups. Can you name one Iraqi terrorist responsible for anything done on American soil?

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    "Georgia is much more of a terrorist threat to Russia than Iraq ever was to the US"

    neither Iraq no Georgia were threats. The mess in both countries is ethnic and/or religious.

    As always, having power, like US and Russia, means it will ALWAYS be abused, like invading non-threatening countries.

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    is there a war the liberals love? I think it's Darfar... leave Iraq and Afghanistan and invade Darfar...

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    Not even counting the 10 of $Bs pumped into US oilcos from the Iraq war's contribution (some say $30 - 40/barrel), here's $100B to contractors, much of it with no oversight and rotten with fraud and non-delivery

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0...tml?view=print

    Bogus Iraq (privatized) war is above all about Big Business, totally unrelated to US security.

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    Looks like Cheney is getting the U.S. into the Georgian-Russia conflict by using American transport planes to fly the 2000 Georgian 'peace-keepers' in Iraq back home to fight 'Russian aggression'..

    Cheney: Russian action 'must not go unanswered'



    Yahoooooooo

    Normally he waits for his corporate M$M shills to read his war statements...
    It's the conservative way. Shoot first and then deal with the consequences later. Of course now we have the ultimate chicken hawk in Cheney spewing fighting words that he doesn't have to back up. Does this surprise anyone?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    is there a war the liberals love? I think it's Darfar... leave Iraq and Afghanistan and invade Darfar...
    It's the unecessary one's we don't like. We get it. Your one of those conservatives with a bunch of yellow ribbons on your SUV.

    You're a joke.

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    It's the conservative way. Shoot first and then deal with the consequences later. Of course now we have the ultimate chicken hawk in Cheney spewing fighting words that he doesn't have to back up. Does this surprise anyone?
    No suprise here. These are guys who do whatever the they want to do. Cover up the global warming effect and suppress information from our own scientists. Invade Iraq for regime change. Take all the former Eastern Bloc countries for themselves. Piss of diplomats around the world with their hard headed bashing forward on stuff without listneing to anyone. Illegal wiretaping and Patriot Act.

    Guantanamo Bay Gulag and waterboarding

    I can't believe I voted for these guys

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    It's the unecessary one's we don't like. We get it. Your one of those conservatives with a bunch of yellow ribbons on your SUV.

    You're a joke.
    so you only like necessary wars... name me a necessary war and I am sure I can find some liberal fault to it.. I am sure your code pink bumper sticker is about to fall off your yugo...

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    so you only like necessary wars... name me a necessary war and I am sure I can find some liberal fault to it.. I am sure your code pink bumper sticker is about to fall off your yugo...
    Uh, yes I can say that I will support military action if it is the last resort. The Iraq war as one of first resort.

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