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I GUARANTEED it after putting 2 and 2 together. (actually 3 and 3) The NBA needed a PHX/BOS/LAL mix somehow with the ultimate being this Finals, so they approved 3 absurd trades to allow the "Super-Teams". Makes me sick.
Did anybody else feel that the whole playoffs were fixed for the celtics and the lakers? I mean they got away with a lot of stuff.
No free throws for berry and there were a lot of bad calls in both series favouring LA and Boston.
I GUARANTEED it after putting 2 and 2 together. (actually 3 and 3) The NBA needed a PHX/BOS/LAL mix somehow with the ultimate being this Finals, so they approved 3 absurd trades to allow the "Super-Teams". Makes me sick.
David Stern is actually an Alien. His race was seen in the X-Files, the ones with the black oil. He is president. Sam Cassell is the general of the Alien army. Shaq is really Kazaam, an evil genie from the planet Mongo. The idea is to get the ratings as high as they can, and get every TV in the world tuned in. Then electronic signals will infect everyone who watches with the black oil, and we will be enslaved to the aliens until we all perish. Our only hope for survival is for Michael Jordan and his "Space Jam" team to come back to earth and rescue us all while the clock is ticking down and we need a few three-pointers and steals to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
Yeah, the NBA is so fixed that it let small-market San Antonio have 4 championships. The people that cry foul about conspiracy theories in the NBA have no idea what a real conspiracy about team preference would be like. Every single playoff series would go 6-7 games, no California teams would be left out of the mix and by no means would the Spurs be considered an NBA elite team, not to mention other things that debunk the conspiracy theory about the NBA. Also, the Pistons would not have annihilated the Lakers in 2004 in the fashion that they did if the league were fixed.
We lost to a superior team because they exploited our flaws, same with the Pistons/Celtics series; get over it, people. Lakers are a great team and the Celtics finally learned how to win on the road, thus leading them to the Finals. The trade was not FIXED either, the Grizzlies just wanted to dump Gasol for cap space and draft picks.
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The point is it's LA and Boston in the playoffs which has not been seen in the finals for a long time and everybody knows how popular that was seeing as it was one of the greatest rivalrys and the money/business factor that would be acheived if they were in the finals.
Bottom line is both the Spurs and Pistons didn't deserve to make it. The Spurs showed enough guts being able to get past in Hornets in 7 games, and I didn't expect much more. The Pistons probably will need to make some changes in the offseason as I think their current team has reached its ceiling.
you can not deny the fact that the lakers whooped the dog out of the spurs. i know alot of you spurs fans think your team could not and should not be beaten by anyone and the trophy should just be rushed to the spurs on a platinum platter. truth is the lake show was just the better team this year. some breaks didn't go your way like they have in the past and it hurts your heart to see your team go down in that fashion doesnt it? you can think the spurs were the better team (like i did about the suns last year) and you can about the injustices (like i have) about your team getting ed. it won't change . get over it and look forward to next year.
The team did get beat Manu hurt didn't help us much. We got beat in clearly 3 games easy. It might of been different had Crawford called the foul he should of called but it didn't happen so we'll never know. However I think a lot of calls or non calls were made in the favor of both Boston and the Lakers...
KG got away with out a suspension or fine.
The league acknowledged a foul on Brent Barry to little to late.
Maybe its not so much a conspiracy but the league in desperate need of refs that can do better jobs. Though clearly Stern should have done something to KG and had he been wearing a Suns uniform and came off the bench perhaps he would of...
It's not that it's fixed, but the Celtics and Lakers get the benefit of most calls and the teams are allowed to somehow end up with big-time players that no other team can afford to get.
Why couldn't the Hawks get Garnett? Why couldn't the Grizzlies keep Gasol?
Letting the Celtics and Lakers have the players gives them a better chance to win a le.
Spurs and Pistons just beat the odds.
For the people arguing that the Spurs have won 4 championships and there could not be a conspiracy as a result, I ask:
Who is arguing that there was a conspiracy in these years?
Yes, things do happen overnight, much to the disbelief of many. Never in those years did we see two incredibly one-sided trades in two incredibly large markets go down. And the media is eating it all up. Everyone knows that from a business standpoint, the NBA would want big markets to dominate - this means more revenue and more ratings. I'm not justifying it, I'm just trying playing devil's advocate. I don't know if I buy into the conspiracy theory yet, but I'm not gonna wipe it off the table. I want to salute all of the people who crave adopting a Spurs-like at ude: no excuses, just shut up and play and concede when you're done. You see that a lot with the posters here when it comes to officiating. But it's foolish to dismiss what is put in front of you.
spurs lost cause manu played like and no one stepped up to help with scoring
Who, what and if, that comes to so much in a basketball game.... it's a terrible game to play.
If you look at that Barry play, he travels before Fish bumps him, so it's a travel before the foul. Then Fish's shot hit the rim so the Lakers should have had a full 24 second clock and the Spurs would have had to foul the Lakers instead of a desperation shot.
As for conspiracy theorists, if the NBA was rigged, they never would have "let" the Spurs win 4 les. They would never have "let" the Celtics go 20 years without being in the Finals. They would not have "let" the Lakers get put out in 3 straight years. They would not "let" the boring Pistons beat the Lakers Dream team (Kobe, Shaq, Malone, Peyton). That's just crazy talk.
As for crazy trades, you guys forgot that the NBA rigged Kwame Brown to the Lakers for Caron Butler. Wasn't THAT a lop-sided trade? The Wizards stole the Lakers lunch money, but nobody complained because it was the Lakers getting ripped off.
But when the Lakers rip somebody off, it's a conspiracy.
Nope. They were the best teams. Boston proved that in the Regular Season and LA got a second big time player in Gasol.
I don't know about fixed, but I think it's boring as .
How was your fishing trip?
Please read my post above, because it represents a fundamental difference in the way both sides are arguing. You're asking something along the lines of, "how can Tony Parker be an all-star? If he were an all-star, he would have gotten more playing time as a rookie and he would not have gotten schooled by Stephon Marbury in 2003." Things do change: the years the Spurs and Pistons won represented what is often thought of as years of resentment from the NBA. Every year, there were lower ratings, less controversy and fewer marketable NBA personalities. Here's another analogy for you: a man who steals 10,000 dollars from his bank but had no prior history of crimes is still a criminal (and should be punished...but that's a different topic). It takes only one day for the man to cross over from having no history of crimes to being a felon.
DING DING DING...WINNER!!!
That's the patent excuse as to why the NBA isn't fixed. But it holds no water.
The Spurs, despite being wrongly considered "boring" by mainstream America, has two things going for it. Manu and Tony. They have two international superstars on their team, so for the Spurs to be successful is great for the NBA internationally.
This is not saying that the Spurs were given anything. They earned every bit of their championships. But to say that there isn't collusion or shady practices going on in the NBA simply because the "boring Spurs" win just isn't true.
For the record, the two best teams are in the Finals. But they got their status as the two best because of corrupt shortcuts involving collusion with other teams, which is simply wrong and taints this entire season.
You said taints.
Of course the NBA's biggest conspiracy is to get people to make accounts all over NBA message boards claiming the league is rigged. Then everyone will just laugh it off, leaving the truth undetected.
Seriously, whether there is a conspiracy or not, more talk will emerge after this finals ends. If Boston wins, people will say the league handed it to Garnett, Pierce, and Allen, because they know it's their last shot, and the Lakers will be back. If the Lakers win, people will say the Lakers won because the league wants Kobe and company to win several more les and rejuvinate the league as Bird/Magic did in the 80's and MJ did in the 90's.
God damn, Spurs fans actually believe the Lakers beat them because of refs. Damn, with that at ude, I will never give the Spurs credit for anything. You guys are definitely worse than Suns fans. Lakers overcame deficits against the Spurs like it was nothing. That's demoralizing for an opponent. Any objective can see that Lakers were the better team. Did Stern plan on Manu getting injured as well? Perhaps he paid Manu under the table to play like .
Boston beat the out of the Pistons. That three point play on Pierce was one of the biggest BS calls I've ever seen. Infact, the calls in game 6 all seemed to favor the Pistons. Hard to blame the refs when your team can't hit a shot to save their lives when it counted.
No need to get riled up Laker fans.
Just a bunch of sour grapes here who can't accept their team lost to a better team in the playoffs. Typical. It's funny how Spur fan fooled everyone into thinking he was classy, when you win it's easy to be classy. Now that they've lost we are seeing their true colors. LMAO at all the they talked to Suns fans, they are FAR worse.
It wasn't fixed. Spurs-Lakers series was filled with bad calls for both sides.
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