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give it all to California.
Let California be ed. The citizens vote in socialists that drain the coffers with a system set up to drain the coffers more in times of economic downturn. The people screws themselves. them.
have you noticed how in general, the liberal controlled states are worse off then the conservative run states?
Socialism is great, until you run out of people to pay for it.
It's all an act.
No politician turns down 17 billion. Strings attached be damned.
You ing sucker cobra, you're so wrong. I'd suggest you look up which states are using the most federal dollars while paying the least in taxes. Because 8 of the top 10 are traditionally red states.
Of course Wild Cobra and the republicans are as balijuana says, otherwise balijuana would have a hard time coming to grips that he is a blind fool.
And that would after all be....hard. Can't have that.
Bali and the rest of you losers talk down to conservatives/reps/whatever yet you have NOT ONE SINGLE PROBLEM taking their money. Let that sink in, es.
PFA, or do you have support for this?
In CA you have the worst of both worlds. Closed primaries in CA drag both parties closer to the extremes, and legislative referendums leave the state susceptible to special interests tapping into transient populist moods.
Unwillingness to pare spending is part of the equation, but the Proposition 13 tax revolt, which capped ad valorem taxes at 1% and required supermajorities for all state budget bills and tax measures, has wrecked comity between the parties, kneecapped California's ability to pay for itself, and has artificially raised the price of housing for all Californians.
I make a distinction between California's political leadership and its populace. The state is important culturally, economically and electorally. A lot of Americans live there. Suggesting they do not deserve help because their political leadership has screwed up is screwed up IMO. We're all in the same boat.
Maybe when the people realize they vote in politicians doing the state harm, they will cast their votes better informed the next time.
Tough love. Let them sleep in the bed they make.
did you see how they want china to buy more govt bonds to bail your country or fund ur stimulus? ROFLMAO.....
if i were china that , i buy all your infrastructure and resources.....
part of it has some requirements if the state does not want to meet the requirements
they are smart not to accept all of it
spending more than what you earn, isnt this one of the reasons why we are in this mess? and what happens when you spend everything that was in ur deposits? back to the welfare que?
Oh, things are alright in Oregon then?
No, the liberals in Oregon have run this state into the ground too. I want to see change. I hope this will get conservatives in office once again.
You mean the ones who doubled the national debt while they had power?
Until people realize that both sides and thus the two party system itself as being the problem, the nothing will change.
There has been a ton of finger pointing but at the end of the day both sides worked more or less togehter to revoke the Stengall Act which prevented banks from specualting and making unleveraged loans. That would be Clinton, Bush, Gramm, Reich and the rest of them.
Its not the parties that are the problem. Its the driving force behind them. YOu can call it the military industrial complex, special interest etc.
That being said, if you claim to be a 'conservative' --although there is nothing conservative about the actual ideology-- and make less than $100k a year or stand to get a large inheritance. You're a moron.
The last time we have a conservative leaders was decades ago. President Reagan had a huge run up on the national debt, but there was already double digit inflation on treasury bonds sold before he was president. His style of leadership and policies is what we need now. Not robbing our children with the $700 billion elitist lender bailout, this recent $787 billion social spending bailout, and now congress is looking at more...
all of you who voted for this gang.
You have killed the heart of America. Aren't there any patriots left, on the left?
It is a large part of the problem. We need runoff elections where the victor must have 50%+1 votes to win.
What do you think of for every term a politician is in office and running for the same job, his percentage to win increases by 5%? Even 2%? Repealing the Glass-Steagall Act didn't change what lead to this crisis. Structured Investment Vehicles were already in play before repealing the act.
As a vetran, I disagree. Like any large organization, it wastes money, but it is a necessary evil for a free government.
There are different aspects of being conservative. <$100k, inheritance? what are you talking about?
What I want to see is a right leaning libertarian. By nature, libertarians are fiscal conservatives and social liberals, and anti-authoritarian. We have the most authoritarian federal government since any of the world wars, or civil war!
Absolutely not acceptable.
Part of the requirement for a state to receive stimulus money is that the state stop requiring able-bodied welfare recipients to look for work. Since the state of Texas is one of the states that didn't allow people to cash out all their equity when refinancing their homes, we don't really need the money anyway, allowing the state to continue to benefit from one of the few successes of the Clinton administration.
Do you have a link to an article saying as much?Part of the requirement for a state to receive stimulus money is that the state stop requiring able-bodied welfare recipients to look for work.
And everything I've read says that Texas is taking the stimulus money.
Stimulus Bill Abolishes Welfare Reform and Adds New Welfare Spending
After reading it, there's no requirement, but it offers money to states relative to the size of the welfare roles, and requiring people to work is going to be the first thing to go because it's a quick way to vastly increase the number of people on welfare. Rewarding a government agency for bloating its budget is the surest way to make sure they'll do exactly that.
And the only thing I've read about Perry taking the money is that they're fulfilling the requirements to qualify for receiving the money while they go through it to find out if there are any requirements that are going to cost the state money in the long run. That said, I simply offered my opinion that Texas doesn't need the money, and I stand by that regardless of whether or not Perry decides to take it. I fully expect this process to cost the democrats their jobs in two years if the financial structure in this country survives that long, and whether or not Texas takes money isn't really going to make a difference either way.
Eh, a lot of economists predict a recovery sometime next year. I guess Republicans can hope it won't happen.
You can predict that the state governments are are going to decide against increasing the welfare roles in order to get more money and instead do the right thing if you'd like. Being realistic about it is far different from hoping it won't come about. If a dog walks out onto a freeway, I can predict that it's going to get hit while hoping it survives.
You just said they didn't have to.Realistically, anyone refusing the stimulus is just grandstanding in hopes of running for a higher office in the future.Being realistic about it is far different from hoping it won't come about. If a dog walks out onto a freeway, I can predict that it's going to get hit while hoping it survives.
Before this...debacle/catastrophy, this couldnt be further from the truth.
Post-debacle/catastrophy, every state is in the red. Its just some are waaaaaay more than others.
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Side note: On this subject, I was watching Nightline the other day and they went through the states with the biggest comparative shortfalls. Dont quote my numbers now, but obviously Calli-fon-ya was #1 at some $40 Billion.
But here was a weird one...Florida is like (guessing) $3-4 Billion in the red. ing Rhode Island is like $2 Billion.
$2 Billion?! ing Rhode Island!?! Seriously? That was like, allowed to happen with a total population of like sixteen people?!
Truly amazing.
I said no such thing. There's no requirement to eliminate the welfare to work program, but offering bonusus to the state governments based upon the size of their welfare roles might as well be. Again, you're welcome to throw meat in front of hungry tigers and be surprised when they eat it, but forgive me for not being so foolish.
Or simply making sure they don't cost their state money down the road. Oh, I forgot, you think the congress is just handing out all this money to the states with no strings attached. Wake up and smell the power-grab.
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