Olbermann to Hannity: put up or shut up

**LnGrrrR** · 04-30-2009

I'd like to see Hannity waterboarded. Not because I approve of torture, as some might pathetically suggest in this thread, but because he acted like a big tough guy and said he'd do it. I'd like to see if he could withstand it. My impression is that even though you are partly correct -- the psychological factor in play would help him a great deal -- I still think it would be a horrible situation for him to experience unless they toned it down and made it into a hand-holding exercise in, "Oh are you ok? Here's a drop of water.. I hope it's not too much!" and so forth. I think it would still be damaging enough to frighten the out of him, if they actually went the full monty on the waterboard.

I'd wait until he agreed to it, then hire people in masks to kidnap him at work, drag him to a warehouse with hidden cameras, and do it there.

**Cry Havoc** · 04-30-2009

Originally Posted by LnGrrrR

I'd wait until he agreed to it, then hire people in masks to kidnap him at work, drag him to a warehouse with hidden cameras, and do it there.

At that point, he'd try to call the whole thing off though, and if he couldn't, there would be lawsuits and people getting jailtime over the whole thing.

**ElNono** · 04-30-2009

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

At that point, he'd try to call the whole thing off though, and if he couldn't, there would be lawsuits and people getting jailtime over the whole thing.

Pansy...

**braeden0613** · 04-30-2009

Can we just punch both of them in the face? I'm sure people would pay money to see that.

**RandomGuy** · 04-30-2009

Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

I can do that. I do not fear death in any capacity. At all. Zero fear. Situations in my life have proven to myself and to my family that I am calm under pressure. You'll have to take my word for it.

I would indeed have to take your word for it.

I would also have to be fairly and honestly skeptical about your ability to as you say until you have actually undergone the procedure.

Unless you have undergone the procedure, myself as an outside party with no access whatsoever to your thoughts, must conclude there is not sufficient evidence to say conclusively that you would be able to survive this with no fear whatsoever.

A pole jumper might fully believe and be capable of clearing any particular height bar he sets for himself, but until that leap is actually made, no one, including the pole jumper himself, can truly say for 100% certain that he can clear it.

**koriwhat** · 04-30-2009

Originally Posted by velik_m

Maybe i should, since Freud invented the concept of ego and is therefore the highest authority on this subject. His other claims have no barring on this matter.

Maybe once you finish high school, you will go to college and get that all important critical thinking ability and ability to logically present your arguments. Then you won't be forced to go into straw-men attacks that make you look ignorant.

following the lead of a coke head? freud was a bull ter to the n'th degree. freud!

**101A** · 04-30-2009

I'm wondering if because it was for a "good cause", and would be done in "good fun"- if that mental aspect would make it "easier", if not less uncomfortable.

Myself? Complete pussy - start singing before there was H2O in the room (hate being strapped down).

True story: I was a bank teller in college, and a regular customer comes up to the window and says, "I have a gun, give me all your money." I start emptying my drawer and start stacking 100's on the counter - dude says, "Man it was a joke - you know me - I didn't even show you a gun." My reply? "A gun I can see is that much closer to shooting me."

**Cry Havoc** · 04-30-2009

Originally Posted by koriwhat

following the lead of a coke head? freud was a bull ter to the n'th degree. freud!

To the contrary, Freud has been much maligned over the years by the media and by Psychology as well, who used his theories to break into mainstream science.

Many people think Freud was only about subconscious sexual desires, when in reality his theories were a lot more complicated and detailed than that.

**koriwhat** · 04-30-2009

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

To the contrary, Freud has been much maligned over the years by the media and by Psychology as well, who used his theories to break into mainstream science.

Many people think Freud was only about subconscious sexual desires, when in reality his theories were a lot more complicated and detailed than that.

i couldn't stand the man crush my psychology professor had for freud so maybe that's foggin' up my glasses. i just don't get how anyone can take a coke head seriously. all the coke heads i know are in' loopy out of their minds and freud was no different.

**Winehole23** · 04-30-2009

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

To the contrary, Freud has been much maligned over the years by the media and by Psychology as well, who used his theories to break into mainstream science.

It's a pity the received opinion prevents people from reading Freud. His writing is first rate, and people forget the true aim of psychoanalysis as he described it: the conversion of extreme misery and suffering into everyday unhappiness.

Totem and Taboo isn't a bad place to start, and it's a good intro to one of Freud's great themes, viz., that all that separates us from *the savages* is a tissue thin veneer of enlightened consciousness.

**DarkReign** · 04-30-2009

Originally Posted by koriwhat

all the coke heads i know are in' loopy out of their minds and freud was no different.

Im not saying youre wrong for having such a low opinion of cokeheads...rightfully so in most cases, Im sure.

But if you dont like Freud for that reason, you shouldnt enjoy the work of many, many great artists, scientists and thinkers throughout history.

Cocaine has been illegal in this country, for what? One hundred years? Total guess. Its been around far longer than that and envogue amongst the elite for a better part of a few centuries.

Wasnt Newton into drugs like opium and hash? Damnit, I cant remember...

**MiamiHeat** · 04-30-2009

Havoc wants to kill his father and have sex with his mother.

**Winehole23** · 05-01-2009

*crickets*

**Cry Havoc** · 05-01-2009

Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

Havoc wants to kill his father and have sex with his mother.

What makes you think I haven't already done so?

**koriwhat** · 05-01-2009

Originally Posted by DarkReign

Im not saying youre wrong for having such a low opinion of cokeheads...rightfully so in most cases, Im sure.

But if you dont like Freud for that reason, you shouldnt enjoy the work of many, many great artists, scientists and thinkers throughout history.

Cocaine has been illegal in this country, for what? One hundred years? Total guess. Its been around far longer than that and envogue amongst the elite for a better part of a few centuries.

Wasnt Newton into drugs like opium and hash? Damnit, I cant remember...

theres a difference when you are speaking about specific drugs and what they might have on your consciousness/subconsciousness.

lsd was a big explosion for me. i loved it and it definitely opened my eyes to the world around me and that within my head as does mush. cocaine on the contrary just makes you insane. yeah yeah people say the same about lsd and any other psychedelic but whatever.

i'm not saying freud is a nut or he doesn't know his but i am saying i could care less about freud as i do about the other dumb cokeheads i know. bunch of teeth grinding junkies.

i don't want to my mom and i'm indifferent about my father but i don't want to kill him. i think freud made sense here and there but overall his concepts were just bs to me. not to say they aren't relevant but my opinion is what it is and i can't help that.

lsd. the world around you isn't a world at all. believe that!

damn beer.

**MiamiHeat** · 05-01-2009

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

What makes you think I haven't already done so?

ooh, internet tough guy, I see.

**Winehole23** · 05-01-2009

Turn it around on yourself. Only sissies complain about waterboarding, right?

**Blake** · 05-01-2009

Originally Posted by MiamiHeat

Lol

If Mankind invented the idea of a God, it means there is no God.

If you want to hold onto the possibility that we invented the concept of God, but there still could be "a" God, then you are desperate.

Lol

If MiamiHeat invented the idea that waterboarding is nothing, it means that it is something.

If you want to hold on to the possibility that waterboarding is nothing and that you could do it easy, then either you are desperate or you are a pussy for not trying it yourself.

you're definitely a moron.