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**pgardn** · 12-28-2019

The difference between personal secularity and sexual orientation is not that one is a choice and the other isn't, because both have causal factors that eliminate choice. The difference is that sexual orientation is determined almost entirely by biology, whereas religious disbelief is much more a combination of biology and environment. But in both cases, there's really no choice.

What other non value added dingleberry would you like to onto the forum?

Again.
This is not current thinking.

**DMC** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by pgardn

Again.
This is not current thinking.

You're confusing biology with purely genetic. There are biological factors that don't include genetics.

**DMC** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by pgardn

Favor?
Favor?

You said ALMOST ENTIRELY.
That is a huge jump.
ALMOST ENTIRELY means environment has almost zero influence.
That is absolutely not the state of affairs as we know it currently.

Btw uterine environment is.... unbelievably enough, environment.

, no

Uterine environment in this case is biological. Prenatal hormones are environmental? That's biological, not environmental. Nature vs nurture. You're looking for an escape hatch.

Are you saying a person can be made Gay by how they are raised? Can they be made straight?

**Blake** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by DMC

I can support my claims. Can't you?

Originally Posted by DMC

You hate bad people.

Bad people are sometimes Christians

You hate Christians

You continually remind everyone how you hate Christians

You don't hate other religions, just Christianity.

No bad people exist in other religions.

Originally Posted by DMC

What claim did I make to you?

The bolded parts. Get cracking

**Blake** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by DMC

Do you want to start a thread about the historicity of Jesus or perhaps rehash the ontological argument? Of course not, you want to semen shield for a poster with a 10 year axe to grind who selectively chooses one religion to chastise. While many here would agree that the actual practices of many followers of the religion don't seem to fit the narrative of the tenets, it's not the religion that's being discussed. Blake isn't concerned about people not being good Christians. He just hates Christianity as a whole. You're part of the rapid response semen shielding team for your side but plenty of your compadres have pointed this out to Blake in the past. Some of you have selective recall.

Who pointed out what exactly.

Chop chop

**ElNono** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by DMC

I get a chuckle when I read "being a Christian is a choice". Is being atheist a choice? No. It's the default position based on what you are compelled to believe. If you can choose to believe something, you're likely delusional. I am atheist because it's what has developed from my experiences and rationalizations. Saying that's my choice is saying "I don't understand epistemology".

Hmmm, nice topic. Really debatable that’s a choice or not in epistemological terms, and certainly is a choice in psychological terms. My understanding with philosophy is that the moment you made an active assertion (ie: I’m atheist), it implicitly means you actively made a choice not to be part of any of the other options.
That itself is a choice (or choices). I would put your construction in logical terms: if you’re not part of any distinctive group, then by default you fall into the no-group category.

Originally Posted by DMC

When someone says "most Christians are like this.." odd that no one shows up and says "prove it". How the do you know how most Christians act? You can only say how most that you have encountered act. Painting everyone with the same brush is akin to being racist because you had bad experiences, or being sexist for the same reasons. Pretend it's not all you like.

I agree that generalizations are for the most part misapplied, but your claim is falsifiable. “Most Christians believe in Jesus” is a claim I can make with a degree of certainty that it will be right, without having to go around asking every Christian about it.

**pgardn** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by DMC

, no

Uterine environment in this case is biological. Prenatal hormones are environmental? That's biological, not environmental. Nature vs nurture. You're looking for an escape hatch.

Are you saying a person can be made Gay by how they are raised? Can they be made straight?

Its the environment of the Uterus.
Biology must mean genetics in this context. Otherwise environment factors (surroundings) that effect the brain are BIOLOGICAL. Then everything becomes biological. I could make this argument very easily and it’s stupid.

The current belief is that genetics is NOT overriding in most human behavior. The propensity to act a certain way is clearly there and genetic. But will that propensity meet the correct environment to activate is the real question. This is an incredibly difficult topic and to say some behavior is almost inevitable due to genetics is just flat out wrong given today’s knowledge.

You are trying to play silly games yet again.
And you don’t know biology, this is very clear to me. Or you do and really don’t think about the subject except in passing.

**DMC** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by Blake

The bolded parts. Get cracking

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

You think having threads chastising Christians is OK because they do things that bring us down as a society

But when there's a thread criticizing Muslims because they do things that bring us down as a society, you get defensive with "why are you blaming Islam" or "what's the point"

Originally Posted by Winehole23

So you blame the very large group collectively for the crimes of a few?

Originally Posted by spurraider21

alarmsim and tinfoil hats aside, there definitely has been some level of desensitization

and there definitely are people like blake who call anybody an islamophobe if they criticize islam, but then goes out of his way to criticize other religions

Don't break your back holding the weight of this evidence.

**DMC** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by pgardn

Its the environment of the Uterus.
Biology must mean genetics in this context. Otherwise environment factors (surroundings) that effect the brain are BIOLOGICAL. Then everything becomes biological. I could make this argument very easily and it’s stupid.

The current belief is that genetics is NOT overriding in most human behavior. The propensity to act a certain way is clearly there and genetic. But will that propensity meet the correct environment to activate is the real question. This is an incredibly difficult topic and to say some behavior is almost inevitable due to genetics is just flat out wrong given today’s knowledge.

You are trying to play silly games yet again.
And you don’t know biology, this is very clear to me. Or you do and really don’t think about the subject except in passing.

Don't be dense. Biological factors mean "nature". Environmental factors mean "nurture". You don't get to redefine terms to suit the corner you've painted yourself into.

**clambake** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by DMC

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i don't think I've seen obsession like this before

thanks

**DMC** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by ElNono

Hmmm, nice topic. Really debatable that’s a choice or not in epistemological terms, and certainly is a choice in psychological terms. My understanding with philosophy is that the moment you made an active assertion (ie: I’m atheist), it implicitly means you actively made a choice not to be part of any of the other options.
That itself is a choice (or choices). I would put your construction in logical terms: if you’re not part of any distinctive group, then by default you fall into the no-group category.

When you say "I am hungry" are you making the choice to be hungry? There really are no other options. You're either theist or you aren't. The term "agnostic" is just a more PC way of being atheist. Saying "I don't know" doesn't change anything. You're either theist or not theist. No one knows, theist or atheist. Claim of belief /= belief. You cannot choose to not believe just as you cannot choose to not believe the US is North of Mexico. You cannot choose to believe just as you cannot choose to believe the Pacific ocean is made of chocolate milk.

Every psychology article I've read supports that. Choosing to call yourself something isn't the same as choosing to actually be something. Theist or atheist isn't a claim, it's a god belief status.

I agree that generalizations are for the most part misapplied, but your claim is falsifiable. “Most Christians believe in Jesus” is a claim I can make with a degree of certainty that it will be right, without having to go around asking every Christian about it.

But I didn't make such a claim about belief. You cannot say "most Christians don't actually believe in Jesus" without doing what you just suggested. Of course I can say "most people who claim to believe in X actually believe in X". That doesn't need to be supported, since the term "Christian" by nature means they believe in Jesus.

**Blake** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by DMC

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Don't break your back holding the weight of this evidence.

Nowhere in there do I say I hate all Christians or Christianity as a whole. The assumption is all yours. You failed.

**DMC** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by Blake

Nowhere in there do I say I hate all Christians or Christianity as a whole. The assumption is all yours. You failed.

Pretty sure the evidence strongly supports it. I didn't claim you ever said it.

**clambake** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by Blake

Nowhere in there do I say I hate all Christians. You failed.

you went through all that........line for line?

i don't think I've seen obsession like this before

thanks

**Blake** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by clambake

i don't think I've seen obsession like this before

thanks

You haven't seen the 100+ page thread with my name in the le?

**Blake** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by clambake

you went through all that........line for line?

i don't think I've seen obsession like this before

thanks

Of course I didn't. I don't have to. I've never said it.

**DMC** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by Blake

You haven't seen the 100+ page thread with my name in the le?

You followed me around for days demanding I back up the claim that you hate Christians. I just did.

**DMC** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by Blake

Of course I didn't. I don't have to. I've never said it.

So you couldn't determine a racist or phobe (or islamophobe) unless they explicitly identified as one?

**Blake** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by DMC

Pretty sure the evidence strongly supports it. I didn't claim you ever said it.

Then there's no hard evidence I hate all Christians. In fact, there's evidence in this very thread to the contrary.

You're making silly assumptions. You failed.

The stupid thing about it is all you have to do is ask me directly.

**DMC** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by Blake

Then there's no hard evidence I hate all Christians. In fact, there's evidence in this very thread to the contrary.

You're making silly assumptions. You failed.

The stupid thing about it is all you have to do is ask me directly.

Sure thing Blake

I don't need to ask you. It's recorded history here. I don't trust you to be honest.

**Blake** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by DMC

So you couldn't determine a racist or phobe (or islamophobe) unless they explicitly identified as one?

I won't claim as fact on a message board who is and who isn't. I can only guess. Like you.

But you were the one that stated you can back ALL of your claims.

**Blake** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by DMC

Sure thing Blake

I don't need to ask you. It's recorded history here. I don't trust you to be honest.

Lol DMC calling out anyone else on their honesty.

Like I said, there's evidence refuting your assertion that I hate all Christians right here in this thread. It's now recorded history.

**DMC** · 12-28-2019

Originally Posted by Blake

I won't claim as fact on a message board who is and who isn't. I can only guess. Like you.

But you were the one that stated you can back ALL of your claims.

"I said you are an islamophobe, I didn't say it was a fact" - Blake

I have. You're not the arbiter of whether or not I have.

**DMC** · 12-29-2019

Originally Posted by Blake

Lol DMC calling out anyone else on their honesty.

Like I said, there's evidence refuting your assertion that I hate all Christians right here in this thread. It's now recorded history.

I said you hate Christians. I didn't say you hate all Christians.

Blake

You keep moving the goalpost, adding and removing words to suit your needs.

I didn't call out your honesty. I said I don't trust you to be honest. I never said you're dishonest.

**Blake** · 12-29-2019

Originally Posted by DMC

"I said you are an islamophobe, I didn't say it was a fact" - Blake

I have. You're not the arbiter of whether or not I have.

the evidence of you being wrong is right here in this thread for anyone to see. I gave props to the Christian editor for standing his ground. It's right here.

But the great thing about this place is that all you have to do win the internets is simply declare victory and run away.

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