Honestly, the idea of "building around" guys is pretty much pointless. They should be trying to be the best team they can without trading away their best prospects and picks. They don't have a franchise player, but teams really haven't had luck tanking for those anyway. If you're a bad team who drafts a good player, you're more likely to suck or be mediocre for years even with that player and end up losing them than turn into a contender.
In addition to what you mention, there's the risk of a player getting hurt. Try to build around a player whose achilles tendon ruptures, and the whole plan collapses. The sensible approach is to evaluate players independently, for what each player can do, himself.
ok so whats ur plan for the spurs? because once u said that we should keep our best prospects and picks but dont wanna tank for top rookies... that makes non sense. If nothing change spurs will be mediocre team forever.
noone in spurs roster is a player we can build around. The only way of getting this kind of player is via trade or draft. For now it doesnt seem like spurs tank so all hope in trades. Its sad that most of ppl here dont understand this and prefer to keep lma/ddr and let them go for nothing next season.
Can you get a first round pick for DDR or LMA? I think no. So probably no reason to trade them for a player other teams don’t want.
Like it or not, to be good in this league, you got to get lucky in drafting. The best chance is the lottery.
if you LA, then you got a shot at attracting stars, but otherwise, you have to build from within by drafting good players and hoping one becomes a star.
agree but spurs dont even try to get these lottery picks and thats the problem.
Building around guys is how championship teams are created. To prove my point with examples of teams tanking and/or contending you can see the effect of the Lebron teams. Even the Warriors are tanking right now (I’m aware people are injured but I don’t believe in coincidences). So that’s the Lakers, Warriors, Cavs, Spurs tanked and then we’re contenders for years. All these teams were built around top ten players on the league, franchise players.
To be clear I’m not saying the answer is to tank. But if you have to do it for a year to get that franchise player then do it. If you have to trade pieces to get a top ten player, do it. This team is going to be in serious trouble going forward without that pivotal player. This is the NBA we are talking about. They will never let anyone win without that player. They need something to sell.
E X A C T L Y. Chinook like tons of fans here doesnt understand that :c
Actually got news today that the Spurs are looking to trade Belinelli. Literally heard that about an hour ago.
Thanks for yiur updates. I think everyone knew this was coming. Might ha e to pkg him with something to make spmething work though.
prayingdog.jpg “please package him with Forbes to ‘sweeten’ a deal”
I got really excited when I heard. Of course doesn’t mean that a trade is guaranteed, but they are at least looking into moving him outta here. Didn’t hear anything on Forbes, but Belinelli might have to be packaged with someone else for a team to take on Belinelli.
what's so exciting about that? If I remember correctly they tried to do the same at the start of the season and ended up not doing anything. There is nothing out there that you could get back for a washed up Belinelli that would improve the team. I'd love for him to be gone, but the return would probably equal to nothing.
Fck. Im cool with beli. Its bryck who i wanted to be traded.
Why would he do a sign and trade when he could just opt out and leave and make the exact same money? Is he going to do a sign and trade because he loves the spurs that much?
Lakers Brought in Shaqu and kobe was the 13th pick. Not really either was a high draft pick with the team. Their current team Lehype and AD we drafted by other teams.
Warriors steph 7th, Klay 11th, Green 35th. While 2 are lottery none of them were top (1st 2nd) picks.
Cavs you have more of a point with Lehpe but he also left and they got more 1st then he came back to win So he probably would not have won if he stayed there.
Spurs Duncan top pick but they also had tony and Manu that helped them win.
A good pick can definitely help but you still need to be able to draft well and probably find a good player later.
I've always thought that if there was a trade that would be it. The Spurs are trying to free up space for Walker and Belinelli, as horrid as his defense is, has value in this league as a shooter. I guarantee that all the contenders would love for the Spurs to buy him out and they would be all over signing him. But if the Spurs can get something for him, no reason to go that route.
contenders u say? maybe philla? id love to somehow get mattise thybulle
The Warriors only tanked once, and that was for Harrison Barnes of all people. People confuse being bad like tanking. There's a big difference between trading picks over and over in order to get an eight-seed (kinda like what Philly and Memphis did for years) and developing while still getting high picks. The real issue is going to be PATFO's ability to identify and acquire stars when they can. SGA sure looks like a great guard, and PATFO could have had him and more but were only willing to trade for a pick if it led to Doncic. Maybe that was defensible, but they'll be in positions to get really good players even in the lower lottery, but they'll need to find them like they did with Kawhi.
I wonder if Detroit would take Marco for Derrick Rose.
Over the passed 365 days:
Lakers traded for Anthony Davis
Clippers signed kawhi and traded for Paul George
Rockets traded for Westbrook(although some would say it was a lateral move)
Mavericks traded for kristaps porzingis
Utah traded for Mike conley
OKC traded for Chris paul, SGA and gallonari
Portland traded for Whiteside
Phoenix signed Ricky Rubio and traded for Kelly oubre(this was a little bit outside the 365 day window)
Denver traded for jerami Grant and is using Michael Porter jr effectively and letting him grow.
All these teams in the west have made moves to bolster their chances of competing in the west. While all San Antonio has done during this time was sign demarre Carroll, whom pop has not even cared to use. They did at least try with signing Morris but it backfired in his face
as chinook-type fans here were saying before season, we dont need changes bc we r contenders xd
Because it probably means more than 12-15 minutes for Walker if they let Marco go.
and dumb ass people like you keep wanting to trade for players who are worse than the ones we already have. If Drummond was so good why has Detroit sucked with him on the roster. Lauri Markennen who you want to trade for has been injured every year he's been in the league. The only trade the Spurs need to execute to make this team better is to try and trade for a young player headed for restricted free agency. They should try to trade for Bogdanovic or Beasley. You're a dumb ass who suggested that they could get Thybulle for belinelli!!!!
The AD trade was a win win for both sides.
Clips seem to be having club room issue
Still don't like the westbrrok trade. The thunder's a game being the Rockets
Kp trade is a good trade for the Mav, but he's being under performing
Conley has underperformed
OKC had a player, that was sign to a 4 year deal, that was didn't try to ruin his trade value.
Whiteside,,is blah
Rubi and Oubre was a nice trade for the Suns
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