If they play everything out next year, that is 3 years of complete nothingness for no reason as the young core ages and gets paid despite not being in a good position. That’s bad.
If that were true, why on Earth did they guarantee LMA deal? That does not jive with a change. In fact, it made trading him LESS attractive
They also signed Rudy for 2 years so it means keeping DeRozan and Lma seems to be the plan. That’s terrible
I think thats fair, but I also think they know they have to change things and we'll see that as soon as tomorrow. More likely this offseason. I also think Pop earned the right to go out how he wanted, but I really hope that he's not going to go out because its pretty apparent hes done. I just hope he leaves on his own this off season and we start a new chapter. I don't begrudge him (too much) trying to keep it going this year, but its time.
It's really depressing when you think about it.
Yeah - it was justifiable. I think it was terrible planning to not make any moves in the off season to actually help winning, but to go into the season wanting to win was justifiable.
I also know that as long as there are changes, I don’t care if they are tomorrow or this summer. Makes no difference. Back when I wanted them to win (first week of the season) I wanted changes then to win now. But that ship has sailed.
However, the fact they committed to this team for 2 years is scary? Rudy on the books. LMA got his deal guaranteed for NO FREAKING REASON, Carroll on the books next year. Mills.
There is a lot of work to do and let’s hope they do the right thing vs just standing pat for yet another year. While it would not be the end of the world with a clean set of books following that, it would be 100% unjustifiable and signal that this front office has completely lost touch and has fallen way behind most of the league.
You're not wrong, but there's a reason they don't get treated the same way as the Knicks and that means something. We're at the end of an era for sure, though. If this is the price to pay for the last two decades, I'm OK with it.
These are just the moves we know of. We don't know any offers they rejected at different points for Kawhi and Lamarcus when they asked to be traded. We don't know what was offered this season by those who inquired about Jakob, Demar, even Rudy Gay.
Simply put, they have been too conservative and risk averse for a team that needs talent infusion. It would seem they are not looking hard enough for it, but perhaps they are and have just been bad judging talent.
I really hope they just trade LMA and DDR tomorrow. I don't want to put it off to the offseason. I want the youth to have a half season of playing time. They need to find out if anything is worth building around. Sadly, Pop has never had to deal with this. He's had two decades of being successful one wa and its really obvious he has no idea how to do it otherwise. If he did, we wouldn't be dealing with Marco stealing minutes from the young guys. On one hand, I dont blame him all that much. Its tough to do things one way for 20 years, basically become the GOAT by doing it that way, then understand when you can't do that anymore. But the truth is that the old way isn't going to get things done and I really hope they understand that now.
Hey, if you were so crappy at evaluating talent that you went out and signed a guy to $7MM/yr and then figured out you didn't want him to even suit up, you would be risk averse, too.
I care more about winning trades than I do timeline. Yeah, 30 games of the youth would be great, but in terms of pecking order? Getting legit assets for LMA and DeRozan takes priority by a wide margin.
The Summer seems like the best chance for that scenario.
I mean not if Demar opts out. And honestly, everything about him points to him doing that.
One thing to consider (especially with the atl trades)- cap space will be more valuable this summer because teams are spending their cap room now. This makes it more realistic for us to move salary for cap space now. We would be one of fewer destinations with the space to pay players or one of the few trade partners to use that cap space to acquire assets.
It has definitely crossed my mind that they end up on the losing side of any trade they do, and their lack of belief in their ability to improve the team has them avoiding any risk whatsoever. I have wondered not just about the loss of Sean Marks but in the past few years they have lost a lot of FO personnel that worked in different capacities, not that I recall names, just different mentions of people moving on elsewhere.
I know about your call for new FO to rebuild the team. I hope that is in the cards. I don't know what this GM can do for the team bc I have the su ion he really isn't free to turn this ship around.
Him opting out is the only way sa can up his trade value. As a one year rental his value is low because a team won’t give up assets for a guy that can just leave.
But a sign and trade? That is big. With how few teams have cap space (projected) right now, sign and trade absolutely seems like the best path for DeRozan to get paid.
But if he opts in, SA can still trade him, I just think it hurts his value some.
Yeah, you recall that I wanted a new regime to handle the Number 2 situation. In truth, I have been down on PATFO since the LMA signing. I have been trying to stay the course, but this season has finally made my knees buckle. They can't evaluate FAs, and they don't do trades. Crazy bad.
This is the 100th time I'm saying this but I just don't understand why the Spurs would be willing to risk having nothing for DD instead of taking what they can. Your telling me there are bidding wars for Morris or iggy and we can't get a decent return for DD? And even if we are low balled again what happens if we end up with squat when DD leaves. It just doesn't make sense. I almost understand with Lamarcus but why not get what you can. I'm just dumbfounded by pop and this front office actually annoyed beyond belief. Just effin get what you can. Even if you squeak into the playoffs what are you realistically going to do against the lakers?
I agree but I think when really evaluating the scenario SA losing him for nothing if they decide to move on from him is pretty slim.
They can trade him now at the deadline. If he opts in they can trade him in the Summer. If he opts out? Sign and trade may be DeRozan’s best chance at a big pay day with how few teams have cap space.
pretty surprised la hasn't asked out. i'd wanna gtfo out tbh. la needs to play alongside a long, athletic C. let la thrive... it's pretty sad to see him tap dancing out there on the court when trying to get to spots defensively.
I agree she's not a real fan she jumped ship when they didn't resign Kyle Anderson. I respect all opinions from Spurs fans but not her.
if spurs sent kawhi, danny, $5 million dollars for two years of demar, poeltl, and keldon johnson
spurs need to get something for demar badly... it would be embarrassing if he walked this summer. and that's coming from someone who doesn't even want him on the spurs
doesn't seem like he's getting moved so hopefully he opts in and gets traded or opts out and a S&T happens. demar is who he is. which is limited.
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i thought okc would be the 6th seed but remembered okc lost to dallas when cp3 sat out after kobe died.
okc is just 1.5 games from the 4th seed. they own the tiebreaker against houston.
i was saying since the beginning of the season that they're better than their early record indicated.
if spurs sent kawhi, danny, $5 million dollars for two years of demar, poeltl, and keldon johnson
spurs need to get something for demar badly... it would be embarrassing if he walked this summer. and that's coming from someone who doesn't even want him on the spurs
doesn't seem like he's getting moved so hopefully he opts in and gets traded or opts out and a S&T happens. demar is who he is. which is limited.
No doubt ! even if spurs rebuild in '21 it suck if all they were left with for derozan,lma and kawhi was poodle&kj
not sure if this was posted earlier, i'm just seeing it for the first time:
https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/new...zan-nba-rumorsThe San Antonio Spurs have explored trades centered on power forward LaMarcus Aldridge and shooting guard DeMar DeRozan, according to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN.
The Spurs have considered "liquidating everybody," but don't intend to just give away their two veterans, Wojnarowski indicated on an ESPN trade deadline special.
"They've asked for a lot from teams (for Aldridge and DeRozan)," Wojnarowski said.
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