Trade Rumours about Poeltl

[sasaint]

We were talking about whether one should care about positional distribution when rebuilding. I gave a different example since I didn't want to obscure the main point with him. I think if the Spurs like Culver and think he's a legit talent, then they should acquire him if they can do so by giving up lesser assets. Of course, this whole Culver thing is just made up by me. There's no news about him. Anyways, if they don't think he's an elite talent, there's no reason to trade for him at all. But if they do, then it doesn't matter that he plays the same position as White and Murray, because those guys definitely aren't elite talents.

OK, I agree with your general strategic premise, but Culver is not the elite talent for its tactical application.

[JeffDuncan]

Yeah. That’s it. I didn’t realize that. ...

Yes, I noticed you didn't realize that, which is why I pointed it out to you. You're welcome, even if you are an ungrateful goof.

I am not saying I think he would take 17M; I was discussing the logic (regardless of the number) as to why DeRozan would opt out.

Yes you did think that, you dope. You thought if you waved a multi-year contract in front of his nose, you could sneak it by him that you were ripping him off for more than $10 mil the first year. ROFL!! No way, kid.

The possibilities for DDR are:

1. He'll take the player option, and stay with the Spurs. Because...
1.a. he's in love with the Spurs organization. (doubtful)
1.b. he likes losing. (doubtful)
1.c. it's the most money he can get. (more likely)

2. He'll decline the player option. Because...
2.a. he's offered more money elsewhere. (doubtful)
2.b. he'd rather be with a winner. (more likely)

If he gets what he considers to be a reasonable offer from a winning team, he's gone. If not, he stays.

[Thomas82]

Yeah, I think we'd all like to see PATFO show commitment to some plan. And it would be nice to see the front office win a trade for once that isn't the George Hill deal. I'd almost be upset if the team pulls a big move given how many games they've spent just being mediocre. I was on board with the Spurs moving some young guys last summer if it allowed them to hop up in the draft and grab a blue-chipper, I think the same principle is true for this summer, but there aren't as many candidates for such a move. An issue is that I am not sure there's a real third-piece out there now. I personally don't agree with RC_Drunkford 's evaluation of Russell. I don't want to give up real value for him. I'd almost go so far as to say I'd be more okay with getting Wiggins, given that he's way cheaper and plays a position of long-term need. There are players I'd target first, but he Spurs might be able to facilitate a Russell-to-Minny deal with just their spare parts -- and maybe even pick up an asset to boot.

[JeffDuncan]

I think he takes his chances in FA this year if the Spurs don't extend or sign and trade. He's set to be the biggest player in the market (AD is staying in LA).

DDR and his agent will survey the FA market for an estimate of his value, of course. It's safe to surmise that DDR will be especially interested in a chance to join a winner.

The Spurs would be idiots to offer DDR an extension, since they're scheduled to have so much salary come off the books in the summer of '21 that it's effectively a blow up, and a chance to start fresh. They're in line to have $120 million available, if they don't throw it away on nonsense. The team needs a chance to move on from the mess we see this season, and may see again next season.

DDR's desirability will depend on teams being willing to take on a 2pt shooter. As we speak, DDR is costing himself millions by not shooting 3s. He is maybe not very bright.

[sasaint]

DDR and his agent will survey the FA market for an estimate of his value, of course. It's safe to surmise that DDR will be especially interested in a chance to join a winner.

The Spurs would be idiots to offer DDR an extension, since they're scheduled to have so much salary come off the books in the summer of '21 that it's effectively a blow up, and a chance to start fresh. They're in line to have $120 million available, if they don't throw it away on nonsense. The team needs a chance to move on from the mess we see this season, and may see again next season.

DDR's desirability will depend on teams being willing to take on a 2pt shooter. As we speak, DDR is costing himself millions by not shooting 3s. He is maybe not very bright.

Spurs should move him NOW. But more importantly, do you want PATFO handling the personnel decisions for $120MM in cap space - like you said, assuming they don't throw it away?

[JeffDuncan]

Spurs should move him NOW. ...

The problem is, as always, to whom? Who's going to take DDR's contract? Not to belabor the obvious, but it takes two to trade.

But more importantly, do you want PATFO handling the personnel decisions for $120MM in cap space - like you said, assuming they don't throw it away?

I hope the Olympics will be Pop's farewell, so the Spurs will have both a new head coach, and a new president of basketball next season. That would give the new personnel a season to assess the situation, and prepare for the summer of '21. The way the mess is, it might take a whole season to get it sorted. So no, I wouldn't trust the current personnel with that kind of windfall. I'd fear more of the same, at an even higher cost.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

We had 2 lifers for over 35 years. Oberto was for all practical purposes. Splitter, too; he was shot when we traded him to Atlanta.

Yes.

[rudwick]

Spurs should move him NOW. But more importantly, do you want PATFO handling the personnel decisions for $120MM in cap space - like you said, assuming they don't throw it away?

Wow, that’s exciting! How many more Demarre Carrolls can they get with that?