Maybe no Javtokas afterall

[Doc Jerome]

If Javtokas elects not to sign; oh, well. On to the next option. He would have helped. Given the state of the new NBA, Ian Mahinmi is a better fit for the Spurs at the Center spot. And in all likelyhood, Rasho will still be here to welcome him.

Ultimately, I am not concerned so much with this news.

[Ariel]

Define "top non NBA money" if you would. It would be nice to know what that really means.

I'm too late, as by the time I read this many others have done the job for me. As you see, "top non NBA money" means in all likelihood more than the Spurs would give him, at least for the next 2 or 3 years.

However, I still think this can be pulled off if the Spurs offer an amount large enough to cover the buyout (around 3.5M), plus a decent salary (I'm guessing around 2M). That's why I suggested a 2 years, 7M contract or possibly 3 years, 9M (or something in between, like third year as a player option).

He'd still be leaving money on the table, but the prospect of a bigger payday should be enticing enough for him to take it.

[Ariel]

Is this the article in question?

I got the link courtesy of noamt at SR, whose sayings support Kori's theory that Javtokas supposedly imminent signing by Maccabi is mostly speculation by the Lithuanian media, rather than a reflection of his own words.

noamt recalls Robertas saying that he has offers from Europe, and that though Maccabi is a great option, he has not yet received any concrete offers from them. Additionally, the Israeli media is reporting that Maccabi has approached another Lituanian center, Darjus Lavrinovic.

I think this speaks clearly in the sense that we've been over-analyzing the situation, and that we have to let the events unfold before jumping to conclusions based on dubious media reports.

[Solid D]

When it comes to conclusions, we have some people with some great hops!

[Melmart1]

When it comes to conclusions, we have some people with some great hops!

Enough to start a brewery

[Kori Ellis]

Is this the article in question?

I got the link courtesy of noamt at SR, whose sayings support Kori's theory that Javtokas supposedly imminent signing by Maccabi is mostly speculation by the Lithuanian media, rather than a reflection of his own words.

noamt recalls Robertas saying that he has offers from Europe, and that though Maccabi is a great option, he has not yet received any concrete offers from them. Additionally, the Israeli media is reporting that Maccabi has approached another Lituanian center, Darjus Lavrinovic.

I think this speaks clearly in the sense that we've been over-analyzing the situation, and that we have to let the events unfold before jumping to conclusions based on dubious media reports.

Thanks. It looks like the same article (or something similar).

[Buddy Holly]

Is this the article in question?

It has been FOOOOUND!!!

[Solid D]

[Bruno]

another article about Javtokas an Maccabi:
http://www.lrytas.lt/?id=11492514261147658422&view=4

I've translated this article and it says :

First they sum up the news from the Israelian newspaper : Javtokas will sign with Maccabi because Vujicic will leave Maccabi. They didn't confirm the news and insist that it's according to an Israelian newspapaer.

Spurs are interested in Javtokas (despite being an average offensive player) but that Spurs haven't still make an offer.

To finish they write a former quote from Javtokas where he say that his priority is the Lithuanian national team and that he will take time before making his choice.

It confirms Kori's theory that Javtokas with maccabi isn't a done deal.

[picnroll]

Well I'm glad we have this cleared up.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I never got that.

If you're good, you'll get minutes. If you suck, be happy you're getting a paycheck at all. Stop ing asking for guaranteed minutes, damn.






http://www.broadbandnewsnet.com/news...asp?a=3224&z=1

[ALVAREZ6]

Maybe he doesn't want to waste his time and career coming to the NBA and not playing.


Kind of like Carlos Delfino, these guys just wanna play. There's no point in joining a team where you won't play.

[Ariel]

'In a surprising turn of events, Lithuanian center Robertas Javtokas announced he's leaving basketball to pursue his true calling as a buddhist monk in China'

[exstatic]

LMFAO!
I had heard that he was going to either found, or join a cult on Bora Bora.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Maybe he doesn't want to waste his time and career coming to the NBA and not playing.


Kind of like Carlos Delfino, these guys just wanna play. There's no point in joining a team where you won't play.

What happened to compe ive instinct, and the desire to EARN your minutes.

[ducks]

I can see him asking. it is better to ask and be honest about it now then in the middle of the season pouting

stepphen jackson wanted a starter clause in his nba contract when his contract ran out and he got the boot becuse of it

[Kori Ellis]

We don't know that he is insisting on guaranteed minutes, but I'll move this into the Javtokas thread.

[ALVAREZ6]

What happened to compe ive instinct, and the desire to EARN your minutes.

I would agree with it, I just posted what I think is going through the guy's mind.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I can see him asking. it is better to ask and be honest about it now then in the middle of the season pouting

stepphen jackson wanted a starter clause in his nba contract when his contract ran out and he got the boot becuse of it

If they did that with SJax, I doubt they'll let Javkotas bully them around.

According to the article it doesn't really seem like he's just "asking" it seems like he's using the other Euro team as leverage in negotiations with the Spurs. Kind of a "give me more minutes or I'll go to so and so team" type deal. Idiot. That might work with some other team (read: Hawks) but no classy/winning organization is going to guarantee you minutes.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

We don't know that he is insisting on guaranteed minutes, but I'll move this into the Javtokas thread.

Well, that's what the reports coming out of that Israeli news claim.

My comments are assuming it's true. Until we have more info to claim otherwise.

[Kori Ellis]

If they did that with SJax, I doubt they'll let Javkotas bully them around.

According to the article it doesn't really seem like he's just "asking" it seems like he's using the other Euro team as leverage in negotiations with the Spurs. Kind of a "give me more minutes or I'll go to so and so team" type deal. Idiot. That might work with some other team (read: Hawks) but no classy/winning organization is going to guarantee you minutes.

Well that article is wrong on some points.

First of all it says the Israeli article came out today and that the other article that said he was leaning toward coming to the Spurs came out yesterday when in fact the Israeli article came out first. Therefore anything in there is speculation.

[Solid D]

It would be nice to see him give it a shot in the NBA. There's no time like the present.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Well that article is wrong on some points.

First of all it says the Israeli article came out today and that the other article that said he was leaning toward coming to the Spurs came out yesterday when in fact the Israeli article came out first. Therefore anything in there is speculation.

So Spursreport is wrong, too?

They have the "he's coming" article then the "maybe not after all" right above that. I'm assuming they put them out in the order they were published? Both are dated June 1st so I'm not sure which came first. But the "maybe not after all" one mentions the "earlier reports which claim he's coming" article...so I can only assume it was indeed published AFTER that.

[Kori Ellis]

So Spursreport is wrong, too?

They have the "he's coming" article then the "maybe not after all" right above that. I'm assuming they put them out in the order they were published? Both are dated June 1st so I'm not sure which came first. But the "maybe not after all" one mentions the "earlier reports which claim he's coming" article...so I can only assume it was indeed published AFTER that.

Well if you read this thread that you are posting in, you'll see that we've been talking about it since yesterday.

That Israeli article was published two days ago. A Lithuanian article was published yesterday (June 1st) after the Israeli article saying that he may be coming to the Spurs. Then another Lithuanian article was published citing that in the Israeli article he was saying he's leaning toward Maccabi.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Well if you read this thread that you are posting in, you'll see that we've been talking about it since yesterday.

That Israeli article was published two days ago. A Lithuanian article was published yesterday (June 1st) after the Israeli article saying that he may be coming to the Spurs. Then another Lithuanian article was published citing that in the Israeli article he was saying he's leaning toward Maccabi.

I wasn't posting in this thread. But ok, I'll read up on that.