Nobody is giving up an all star / first rounder for DDR and IV, who will be an all star.
Depends on the return. Getting rid of Lonnie and keeping Dumbmar is what is terrible.
Nobody is giving up an all star / first rounder for DDR and IV, who will be an all star.
And you know this how?
Observation
Are you saying that nobody would give up an all-star OR a first rounder, or are you saying nobody will give up an all-star AND a first rounder?
Probably either, tbh.
DDR is a $27 million-dollar player who is far from 3 and D. Spurs will have to make concessions on any deal involving him. As for IV, you don't sell low on a future all star.
I get that you're saying that IV could sweeten the pot; but I just don't know what worthwhile return you think you're going to get.
One is putting up All Star/All NBA numbers while the other can’t even beat out Marco Belinelli
Forbes is better than IV
Bellinelli is better than IV
Trolls don't believe this sh**. Not for one f'ing second!
The OP asked if it would be worth getting rid of Lonnie to keep Dumbmar. I take it we are agreed that we would definitely answer “No” to that. Maybe we are in agreement that it would be best for the Spurs not to keep Dumbmar at all... Do we agree that if you can move Dumbmar and keep Lonnie that that would be optimal? So what is the best way to divest ourselves of Dumbmar? I am not advocating sweetening just any deal for Dumbmar. But your argument against including Lonnie seems to be based on an assumption that no team sees him as an all-star - as you do.
If DDR is a true impedement to IV getting minutes, then I'm all for moving him. If IV can get 30-35 mpg with him here, then I'm relatively fine with keeping DDR.
Just because you disagree with the coaching strategy doesn't mean you can't acknowledge the attempts to develop talent
When Walker does emerge in X time, the butt lickers will give Pop credit.
Play the man. Sitting him out for Forbes is BS.
DDR is great at the offense that used to win in the NBA. Baskets are 3 points now and he does not make them or play defense. If he can learn to shoot 3s he might be worth something. Until then he is a bad contract.
Lonnie could develop into a valuable player.
Might as well . I don’t think PATFO give a . Would anyone be shocked?
Yes, play Forbes anything more than a short spurt as a gunner is bull , but you cannot say sitting Lonnie has no impact on him at all at least he is showing very good defence now whenever he is playing. Something he had never shown even in the G league and Summer league, but the downside seems to be Lonnie losing his offensive edge.
FFS, IV on his worst day is still a ton better on D than Forbes.
I give Pop credit if he's tanking; but I don't think that's what he's doing.
Of course, D and Forbes shouldn't even be in the same sentence. I am saying Lonnie's D had improved, nowadays I think even his own assistants do not know what he is doing. The only way for him to have any credit is he purposely fk this season so that whoever took over next season would have a easier time, but it doesn't seems to be the case. I think 2014 had damaged him so much that he thinks he can just plug any player and have a good result, but that 2014 team had good to very good 2 way players all around.
But Pop does...
Some bull article on ESPN just said that Demar is expected to opt in to his contract next year. So I guess that's that.
He needs to just hoover around the 3 point line, jacking up the first semi open look he gets, while hardly ever threatening the defense from anywhere else or getting to the line for freethrows, or getting an assist, or really doing anything else but hitting wide open catch and shoot 3s?
A guy who attempts around 1 freethrow a game is "aggressive with the ball"?
Awesome! Another year of this unwatchable mess of a roster.
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