Yes, I've heard all about your master plan where we defeat a team full of dangerous jump shooters by leaving them open but outrebounding them after they make their shots.
So this is what it's come to for the Pop defenders? Transposing players from one team to another?
It's about the system. In the Spurs system, it's not about guarding a man. It's about forcing everything baseline where you've got two seven footers waiting to with what is already a significantly lower percentage shot (baseline midrange jumper) instead of the Devin Harris/Jason Terry layup drill in the paint.
Haslem, Walker> Rasho, Nazr
It worked against Phoenix last year, and they had more 'dangerous' jump shooters than Dallas.Yes, I've heard all about your master plan where we defeat a team full of dangerous jump shooters by leaving them open but outrebounding them after they make their shots.
BTW, I didn't know Devin Harris was a 'deadly' jump shooter, and obviously the Spurs defensive system demands leaving all the shooters wide open for jumpers
Talk about overexaggerating your counterargument strangeweather...
, tell me you are not this stupid. Did you even watch Spurs basketball the last seven years, or did you just decide to show up now we lost and act like you know something?
Well then I guess we can go trade for Calvin Booth, because it apparently doesn't matter if you can actually play as long as you're 7 feet tall and you stand around aimlessly at the baseline.
Well I guess Nazr and Rasho were good enough to hold down Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace (a long, jump shooting PF... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM), and Antonio McDyess, but were not good enough for those juggernaut Dallas post players of DeSagana Diop, Erick Dampier, and Keith Van Horn.Well then I guess we can go trade for Calvin Booth, because it apparently doesn't matter if you can actually play as long as you're 7 feet tall and you stand around aimlessly at the baseline.
Damn you are some dumbass mother ers.
you're right, rasho and nazr dominated the pistons the 2 times we played them this year.
Heat would have a tough time with Dirk but Dirk will have a of a time staying in front of Walker. Wade - Howard would be fun. Between Wade and Heat Mavs bigs would be in a world of foul trouble.
Um, I was talking about the last time the Spurs won the le, you know - last year?you're right, rasho and nazr dominated the pistons the 2 times we played them this year.
And as for the two Detroit games this year...
Nazr didn't get in the Christmas game until we were down 18 in the second half, and all he did was rattle off a 10 and 5 game in 17 minutes. Only got 6 minutes in game 2 while we got pummeled on the boards.
The irony of the ass whipping the Pistons put on the Spurs in San Antonio in February as well as the Christmas day game was that Pop tried to play small ball then as well, playing Horry over half the game at "PF" while Duncan played center in each of those games.
Funny how that all came back and bit us in the ass again in the post-season.
We covered Amare primarily as a slasher last year -- if you cover Dirk that way, he'll rain jumpers on you. Amare doesn't have Dirk's shot.
I suppose you could put Nazr on Harris. But even if you leave him inside so he gets a head start, I'm thinking that's a tough cover for him.
You were the one who said we could put Nazr on Dirk but just let him sag inside without covering Dirk on the perimeter. I don't recall that being a feature of the Spurs system either, but I guess that was an improvement you made over that "idiot" Pop.
Yeah, it's a shame the Spurs coaches never watch their games either. Then they might be as smart as you are.
Amare scored 10 more PPG against us last year than Dirk did last year, it's a good thing we changed our defense to take care of Dirk this yearWe covered Amare primarily as a slasher last year -- if you cover Dirk that way, he'll rain jumpers on you. Amare doesn't have Dirk's shot.
Again, playing two bigs wouldn't have kept Dirk from getting his 30 PPG, it would have kept Terry and Harris from their ing layup drill and Dallas from killing us on the offensive glass.
I think Miami matches up pretty well against dallas, not as good as the pistons but haslem will do a better job against dirk then any big on our team. Walker and Posey will guard dirk too and they match up better then finley and bowen.
The ironic thing is that I have a lot of confidence in Pop's defensive system, and am critical of him for going away from it.Yeah, it's a shame the Spurs coaches never watch their games either. Then they might be as smart as you are.
But I guess you thought that was a brilliant coaching move, what with us still playing basketball tomorrow and all...
Pistons are/were playing like crap. Offense has gone to in a handbag. I'd rather have the Heat take a shot at kicking Cuban's ass back into his closet.
so who in your mind guards dirk? Tim or Nazr/Rasho?Amare scored 10 more PPG against us last year than Dirk did last year, it's a good thing we changed our defense to take care of Dirk this year
Again, playing two bigs wouldn't have kept Dirk from getting his 30 PPG, it would have kept Terry and Harris from their ing layup drill and Dallas from killing us on the offensive glass.
Both Kobe and Shaq can score a ton of points. Do you use the same scheme to stop them?Amare scored 10 more PPG against us last year than Dirk did last year, it's a good thing we changed our defense to take care of Dirk this year
Who says Dirk would get 30? He dropped 50 on the Suns. And if you didn't bother to cover his jump shots like you suggested, he could drop a lot more than that.
If spurs basketball is dead than the spurs are dead. They will not win trying to out score people with the current roster locked in as it is.
They need a big time consistent 2nd scoring star and manu (I don't expect he will get any better than what you see now) and Parker are not there yet. Also they need to over haul their bench and get younger and more athletic, something Pop has never been able to do instead opting for signing or trading for unathletic or over the hill type players.
I have no confidence that Pop can get the type of players that will transform the spurs style of play.
Well, best I remember we manned up on both of them and let them get theirs. I remember in 2003 Kobe going for about 36 a game on us, someone remind me how that year turned out for us.Both Kobe and Shaq can score a ton of points. Do you use the same scheme to stop them?
He got half his points from the FT line. Wow, one game he scored 50. Guess it's game over thereWho says Dirk would get 30? He dropped 50 on the Suns.
Like I said, Dirk getting his wasn't what beat us in that series, it was us turning Devin Harris into an 18 PPG scorer because we had no one to help Duncan protect the paint in there.
I agree, letting Dirk get the points he got in that series wasn't what beat us. But that was with a fairly quick perimeter defender staying with him the whole way.
Why is it that you think that if we stopped putting that defender on him and left him wide open anywhere outside the paint, he couldn't have scored any more points?
The Spurs might be finished due to the fact that Manu and Bowen getting older, and the fact they might not pick up anybody good. But they didn't lose to Dallas cause of a lack of second scorer. Manu was by far the best player statistically after Duncan and Dirk of course. Not even Howard or Terry were close. Dallas won with more depth, and even so they barely squeaked it out.
BTW Manu was an awesome second scorer last playoffs, and the team still struggled versus everyone except the Suns. Against teams with shady #1 scorers. So your argument isn't perfect.
Every team that isn't extremely dominant needs a little luck to win some playoff series. It's not as if the Western teams are easily going to be better than the Spurs if everyone is healthy. Now if Miami was healthy maybe, and the Suns are good. But after that you can't say for certain Dallas will be better than SA. Nor any other team.
You know what the ultimate small ball fan is? He can see small ball will not win us the le and he still wants to play it. You can't be bigger fan than that.We have tons of those here not to mention Pop.
In football terms this is like when a team goes with 4 wide outs and the defense has to match up with that, they can't expect to keep their 4-3 on the field and hope their LBs can run with those 4 WRs. You have to match up with what the other team is doing.
Dead? More like haitus.
I didn't realize Popovich had so many screen names.
Even Pop said the day after the game 7 loss that the Spurs traditionally have stayed big even against smaller teams, but that it simply does not work against Dirk. The Spurs are not going to abandon their entire style- their goal is to be versatile enough to play all styles. If the Spurs played Houston and the Clippers in the play-offs and the Heat in the finals, it would be entirely different.Yes, and if the opposing team HAS a real center, you better have one on your own team to play him. I hope all small ball fans (POP INCLUDED!!!) are watching the Heat game number 6. Would you like to have TD/Horry/Bowen/
Manu/Parker against them now or some other lineup with TD at PF position might be a LITTLE bit better?
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