Coronavirus is one mutation away from infecting millions

[Winehole23]

Vice: How to vote by mail in all 50 states

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/x...-all-50-states

[Nathan89]

People don't trust the idiots in charge and rightfully so. The morons are over here preventing people from purchasing seeds to plant food during a pandemic. They block urgent stimulus because they want to shove their agenda on Americans. You have cops chasing people for jogging on the beach and arresting others for paddle boarding. Yeah, there is no reason to trust these people. And given the political divide there is no reason to trust your fellow American because they like the politicians will take this opportunity to springboard their agenda. This isn't yesteryear America. We have no community and we have no trust.

[ChumpDumper]

Going to the store is one too though. I was at Walgreens last week to buy some toilet paper and some maskless 65 year old decided he was going to have a conversation with the clerk 30 feet away right as I was walking by him. I was so pissed I wanted to tell to shut his mouth when I'm walking by but figured I'd get one of those angry boomer yelling rants full of droplets if I did say anything.

Yeah, I only go to the 24 hour CVS in the dead of night and other stores right when they open. Not worth standing in line outside/in HEB where couples+ are still going to walk by you without masks yakking away. I hope the mask ordinance gets enforced but I'm hunkered down this week and won't notice.

[baseline bum]

choir ppl stand way closer than 6 feet or am I missing something?

I think they claimed they were all six feet apart at that choir practice.

[Joseph Kony]

i thought republicans were supposed to be for small government and individual states' rights? must be exhausting doing all those mental gymnastics to justify blind leadership to dear leader tbh

[ChumpDumper]

People don't trust the idiots in charge and rightfully so. The morons are over here preventing people from purchasing seeds to plant food during a pandemic. They block urgent stimulus because they want to shove their agenda on Americans. You have cops chasing people for jogging on the beach and arresting others for paddle boarding. Yeah, there is no reason to trust these people. And given the political divide there is no reason to trust your fellow American because they like the politicians will take this opportunity to springboard their agenda. This isn't yesteryear America. We have no community and we have no trust.

You trust Trump.

[RandomGuy]

But Sweden has some things in its favor that we don't (at a country scale) in order to employ the herd immunity strategy. 33x less the population (if it takes Sweden a year to achieve herd immunity, it could take us a decade), 50 percent of their population already work from home, more single person households, only 1 city with over a million people. Trying to do herd immunity in the US would likely have us paying both the short term and long term prices. We just have too many people to achieve it over a year and a half until the vaccine hopefully arrives. We might be able to do it region specific. I see no reasons why places like Utah and rural areas can't carefully try the strategy. But New York, Chicago, LA, Houston, etc shouldn't be declared "open for business" anytime soon. The big cities might have to do like Singapore and alternate being relaxed and strict as the new case count dictates.

Sweden also has a pretty generous social safety net.

Paid time off, universal health insurance etc.

Not like the third world hole we are suddenly realizing we live in, complete with idiocracy.

[ChumpDumper]

choir ppl stand way closer than 6 feet or am I missing something?

They were following all the guidelines in effect at the time including 6-feet and no handshakes. Probably the only way to mitigate the small droplet cannon effect would've been to do it outside.

[Nathan89]

The mask is only really useful to collect your droplets so you don't unknowingly infect people as an asymptomatic carrier. It's not much protection against other peoples' droplets unless you have an N95. And I still see so many people out without masks. It pisses me off so much because I'm wearing one to protect them every time I go out and I should be afforded the same courtesy. I hate wearing them because they're hot and they fog up my glasses but I don't want people getting sick from me when I could be an asymptomatic carrier and not know it.

Yeah, I'm aware. Mass usage of masks is implied. And I also see too many damn people without masks. I was just at USPS and the employee didn't even have a damn mask. She comes in contact with loads of people everyday.

[Trill Clinton]

Anyone have a link to today's presser? I heard it was a knee slapper.

[RandomGuy]

Vice: How to vote by mail in all 50 states

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/x...-all-50-states

Which Republicans will fight tooth and nail. They ing know if more people vote they are out on their asses.

[ChumpDumper]

Which Republicans will fight tooth and nail. They ing know if more people vote they are out on their asses.

Well they fight against it for some people....

[midnightpulp]

People don't trust the idiots in charge and rightfully so. The morons are over here preventing people from purchasing seeds to plant food during a pandemic. They block urgent stimulus because they want to shove their agenda on Americans. You have cops chasing people for jogging on the beach and arresting others for paddle boarding. Yeah, there is no reason to trust these people. And given the political divide there is no reason to trust your fellow American because they like the politicians will take this opportunity to springboard their agenda. This isn't yesteryear America. We have no community and we have no trust.

Because "yesteryear" didn't have twitter and a 24/7 news cycle. Many of these draconian actions did occur in "yesteryear America." They just weren't do ented with the same frequency.

On Nov. 1, 1918, Eugene C. Caley became the first man in Oakland, Calif., to be arrested for not wearing a mask. He was released on bail, although similar scofflaws in San Francisco had been sentenced to up to 10 days in jail.

[Nathan89]

Going to the store is one too though. I was at Walgreens last week to buy some toilet paper and some maskless 65 year old decided he was going to have a conversation with the clerk 30 feet away right as I was walking by him. I was so pissed I wanted to tell to shut his mouth when I'm walking by but figured I'd get one of those angry boomer yelling rants full of droplets if I did say anything.

I know this enraged you but it gave me good laugh tbh

[midnightpulp]

^And we are a bunch of pussies and babies. The Spanish Flu was magnitudes worse. That was during the Robber Baron era, with a greater wealth divide than probably even today. And that event came right after World War I. There was probably no social safety net to speak of, so if your restaurant went under, too bad. Not much in the way of alternative revenue streams, i.e. Pappy McDonagal simply couldn't switch to a take out only model for his restaurant. And guess what? America and the American Economy survived.

[Nathan89]

Which Republicans will fight tooth and nail. They ing know if more people vote they are out on their asses.

90+% of the news networks pushing leftist agenda is a of a hill to climb. Haven't noticed Biden getting the same treatment as Kavenaugh in the metoo era. Of course a no resistance voting system is going to favor the party getting shielded by the propaganda outlets.

[ChumpDumper]

90+% of the news networks pushing leftist agenda is a of a hill to climb. Haven't noticed Biden getting the same treatment as Kavenaugh in the metoo era. Of course a no resistance voting system is going to favor the party getting shielded by the propaganda outlets.

It's almost as if something else is dominating the news cycle.

Unfair!

[hater]

I think they claimed they were all six feet apart at that choir practice.

so?? we dont know what the they did before. they all could have been blowing the priest in the back before

we are talking about scientific tests done in a lab vs anecdotes

come on

so far no evidence this thing is airborne

[Nathan89]

^And we are a bunch of pussies and babies. The Spanish Flu was magnitudes worse. That was during the Robber Baron era, with a greater wealth divide than probably even today. And that event came right after World War I. There was probably no social safety net to speak of, so if your restaurant went under, too bad. Not much in the way of alternative revenue streams, i.e. Pappy McDonagal simply couldn't switch to a take out only model for his restaurant. And guess what? America and the American Economy survived.

The didn't have California regulators to shutdown restaurants for deciding to sell vegetables or regulators of other regions preventing stores from selling seeds. You can't adapt with big daddy government getting right in your way.

[Nathan89]

It's almost as if something else is dominating the news cycle.

Unfair!

Yeah, that's why it's a total non-story.

[hater]

They were following all the guidelines in effect at the time including 6-feet and no handshakes. Probably the only way to mitigate the small droplet cannon effect would've been to do it outside.

well they ed up

anyway we are not talking about dozens of ppl close together in a room. that is a no no in the new world we live in

[Reck]

I'm still nor will I ever get used to ordering takeout at 5 or 6 PM because ALL restaurants that are taking orders are closing by that time.

Sucks ordering food when you're not craving it. I order the and leave it for like 9 or 10PM when I'm actually hungry. It kinds of loses it's luster for a lack of a better word.

[apalisoc_9]

I'm still nor will I ever get used to ordering takeout at 5 or 6 PM because ALL restaurants that are taking orders are closing by that time.

Sucks ordering food when you're not craving it. I order the and leave it for like 9 or 10PM when I'm actually hungry. It kinds of loses it's luster for a lack of a better word.

scrah, cooking is fun. I treat it like video games. You should too.

[midnightpulp]

The didn't have California regulators to shutdown restaurants for deciding to sell vegetables or regulators of other regions preventing stores from selling seeds. You can't adapt with big daddy government getting right in your way.

How prevalent is this overreach you speak of? See, again, the age of twitter. My dad just went to home depot (in Southern California) to buy seeds .

And many restaurants are selling grocery goods.

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/13/83163...-groceries-now
https://www.myrecipes.com/news/resta...ling-groceries

[Reck]

Well they fight against it for some people....

The GOP might want to tone down the red and lettering. This looks like one of those hazardous zone do not enter sign.