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    If the extreme cases are "overwhelming the system", having everyone flood the ERs would be exponentially more problematic.
    Exactly, thus why ERs won't even give you the time of the day unless you're visibly ed.

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    The federal government is eyeing a new strategy for monitoring the spread of the deadly coronavirus. It involves poop.
    The U.S. has struggled to keep pace with other advanced countries on coronavirus testing, and now is considering tracking the spread of the virus through sewage systems as a way to predict where the next hot spot may be.

    Jay Butler, deputy director for infectious diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, raised the intriguing possibility on Monday in a conference call with private-sector representatives, according to audio of the call reviewed by POLITICO. Most of the discussion had the grave and staid tone that has characterized public health officials' conversations about the virus that has infected more than 1 million Americans and killed more than 60,000. Butler fielded prescreened questions on a host of buttoned-up topics, including face-mask use, sick leave and contact tracing.



    Because the novel coronavirus can be detected in feces within three days of infection — days before mostindividuals begin showing symptoms — there is hope that wastewater monitoring could provide an early warning of new outbreaks of the virus as the country tries to avoid a second-wave of the pandemic that could arise as states begin to open up. Even if testing capacity ramps up, monitoring sewers could alert public health and other local and state government officials to a coming wave of infections days before patients need hospital beds.


    “It does raise the intriguing possibility, though, that wastewater could potentially be monitored for the presence of the RNA as a marker for whether or not it’s in the community,” he said. “If you’re new to public health, that may seem really odd but that’s actually a practice that’s been done for literally decades to look for reemergence of polio viruses in parts of the world where polio has been eradicated.”
    While wastewater surveillance has been used for years in developing countries to detect outbreaks of polio, in the U.S., it has been used more recently to track opioid use within communities. A spokesperson for the CDC confirmed that the agency is eyeing wastewater as part of its response to the pandemic, though it is not yet doing so.
    "At this time, CDC is exploring the potential for wastewater testing to inform the response, but we are not conducting any testing at CDC," the spokesperson said in a statement. "However, there are external groups that are currently conducting wastewater testing."
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    Trash/Miller/evangelical concentration camp news

    Coronavirus: Immigration detention centres in crisis

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52476131

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    “I Do Not Want to Die in Here”: Letters From the Houston Jail

    A series of letters from detainees in one of America’s largest jails reveals

    the mounting dread and uncertainty as the coronavirus spreads inside the 7,500-inmate facility.

    As of Thursday,

    392 inmates were infected with the coronavirus, according to the jail,

    along with 200 staff members.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/i..._content=river



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    Poll Shows Tens of Millions of Americans Would

    Avoid Covid-19 Treatment Over Cost Fears


    "A country that puts people in this situation

    is not a country upholding its responsibility to its citizens."

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/29/poll-shows-tens-millions-americans-would-avoid-covid-19-treatment-over-cost-fears?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=AO&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Newsl etter&utm_content=email&utm_source=Weekly%20Newsle tter&utm_medium=Email


    What will remdesivir (whatever treatment) and a vaccine cost?


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    THEY WERE WARNED NOT TO TAKE SICK DAYS —

    THEN SIX WORKERS AT THEIR WAREHOUSE DIED OF CORONAVIRUS

    AT LEAST SIX people who worked in a Long Island, New York, warehouse leased by Broadridge Financial Solutions have died of Covid-19

    employees of TMG Mail Solutions, a Broadridge contractor that prints and mails financial do ents, had been pressured to work during the Covid-19 pandemic even as some of their co-workers tested positive for the virus.

    The workers also expressed concerns that

    delays in the provision of personal protective equipment like masks and gloves

    made an outbreak inevitable.


    Broadridge Financial Solutions

    is a global financial services company that made nearly


    $4.4 billion in revenue last year.


    https://theintercept.com/2020/04/30/...t%20Newsletter

    The sadistic inhumanity of Capitalism, where Labor is expendable.


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    Cashing In on Pandemic?

    Do ents Show Lawmakers Made 1,500 Stock Transactions Worth $158 Million as Covid-19 Spread


    "As Covid-19 cases began to increase, senators and representatives

    from both parties traded securities—many related to the pandemic itself."

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/04/30/cashing-pandemic-do ents-show-lawmakers-made-1500-stock-transactions-worth-158?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=AO&utm_campaign=Weekly%20Newsl etter&utm_content=email&utm_source=Weekly%20Newsle tter&utm_medium=Email





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    Ducks is another one who doesn't understand how increasing/reducing the R0 can contribute to exponential growth/decline.
    Ducks doesn't understand much of anything tbh

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    Hundreds Infected With COVID-19 in ICE Detention Centers

    Amid a raging pandemic, immigrant detainees say they are double bunked in cells and that guards don’t wear protective equipment.

    With more than 30,000 people in ICE custody nationwide, ICE has, as of April 28,

    425
    confirmed cases of COVID-19 among detainees,

    plus an additional 36 cases among its employees working in detention centers.

    “We’re hearing from our clients that they’re still double bunked in cells,

    that they’re still moving in groups out to the cafeteria or out to the medical unit.

    We’re hearing about guards not wearing protective equipment,”

    https://capitalandmain.com/hundreds-...n-centers-0429



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    Ducks doesn't understand much of anything tbh
    Duck hunt elk fix computer

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    Duck hunt elk fix computer
    See-um white man Kimosabe

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    "In the U.S. harvesting of crops is already underway and

    will peak as the weather gets warmer and fieldworkers

    who work and sleep in groups

    are particularly susceptible to COVID-19 infections.

    There are about
    2.5 million to 3 million workers on farms of all sizes,

    with about 3/4 estimated to be foreign born."

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05...-incorporated/



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    "Across Oregon, Latinos have disproportionately tested positive for COVID-19,

    making up 27% of cases but just 13% of the state’s population.

    The disparity is especially acute in the agricultural areas of the Willamette Valley.

    Over half of Marion County residents who got a positive test back between April 25 and April 27 live in Woodburn,

    according to a
    Salem Reporter analysis of Marion County data.

    Woodburn, a majority Hispanic town, makes up less than 10% of the county’s population."

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/01/roaming-charges-american-thanatos-incorporated/



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    I wonder how much the panic press has contributed to the death toll? People are so scared that they aren't seeking treatment until they are VERY ill.
    that is NOT what is happening at all

    people are being turned away or sent right back home due to this administrations ty guidelines
    which is “only test symptomatic ppl”

    or

    only admit very sick people

    those people go home and return when they are dying

    the lack of testing is what will eventually be determined to be the biggest crime on humanity in centuries

    on the other hand - nonexistant testing will keep disinfectant donnie’s numbers lower
    and his cult will keep defending his crimes against humanity

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    Ducks is another one who doesn't understand how increasing/reducing the R0 can contribute to exponential growth/decline. We see in the regions that failed to control the outbreak a significant amount of more deaths than the flu. And we've only been tracking Covid deaths for about 2 months vs. 7 months for flu season.
    And virtually the US deaths have been the last month.

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    I wonder how much the panic press has contributed to the death toll? People are so scared that they aren't seeking treatment until they are VERY ill.
    Blame the press. Don't blame the guy actually in charge of the response?

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    Can someone explain the updated CDC provisional deaths which are now showing 37,308 deaths. If coding U07.1 includes confirmed and presumed Covid 19 deaths where are the additional 30,000 coming from?


    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

    1.Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1

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    Coronavirus gets a promising drug. MAGA world isn’t buying it.


    On the heels of positive early signs for remdesivir,

    several prominent Trump boosters are downplaying the results and

    continuing to promote hydroxychloroquine.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/02/donald-trump-coronavirus-remdesivir-229765

    the self-indoctrination,

    the rinse-and-repeat brainwashing,

    the cult mob no more rational that Jim Jones' suicide club



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    "Unreal: 70 percent of federal inmates who have been tested for coronavirus have COVID-19."

    "How Concentration Camps Kill: 60% of the people detained by ICE who’ve been tested have Covid-19…"

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/01/roaming-charges-american-thanatos-incorporated/

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    Can someone explain the updated CDC provisional deaths which are now showing 37,308 deaths. If coding U07.1 includes confirmed and presumed Covid 19 deaths where are the additional 30,000 coming from?


    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

    1.Deaths with confirmed or presumed COVID-19, coded to ICD–10 code U07.1
    I'm thinking those are 100 percent confirmed Covid cases via a test and not "probable" deaths via observed symptoms. I saw this on Justin Hart's twitter, as well. Not sure why he's using it to make a point, though?

    Notice the peak pneumonia deaths as Covid was peaking in the US. Nearly 10K. Flu season is usually pretty much done by this time, so we can't necessarily attribute the huge e in pneumonia deaths to both flu and Covid in an equal amount. Oh, N/M. They actually list flu deaths. And for 4-11, it was 430 vs. 9800 pneumonia due to an "unknown" cause. Pretty sure Covid was that cause. If flu wasn't responsible for the e in pneumonia deaths, what else was?

    I also don't know why Hart and "Team Reality" keep posting data that show Covid is far worse than the flu. Hart posted this the other day, as well. https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

    Pneumonia deaths peaked twice over their usual average during this time.

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    NOTE: Number of deaths reported in this table are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. The United States population, based on 2018 postcensal estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau, is 327,167,434.
    *Data during this period are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes.

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    Trump doing Trump things

    "WASHINGTON — President Trump moved on Friday night to replace a top official at the Department of Health and Human Services who angered him with a report last month highlighting supply shortages and testing delays at hospitals during the coronavirus pandemic.

    The White House waited until after business hours to announce the nomination of a new inspector general for the department who, if confirmed, would take over for Christi A. Grimm, the principal deputy inspector general who was publicly assailed by the president at a news briefing three weeks ago...."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/u...-watchdog.html

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    I'm thinking those are 100 percent confirmed Covid cases via a test and not "probable" deaths via observed symptoms. I saw this on Justin Hart's twitter, as well. Not sure why he's using it to make a point, though?

    Notice the peak pneumonia deaths as Covid was peaking in the US. Nearly 10K. Flu season is usually pretty much done by this time, so we can't necessarily attribute the huge e in pneumonia deaths to both flu and Covid in an equal amount. Oh, N/M. They actually list flu deaths. And for 4-11, it was 430 vs. 9800 pneumonia due to an "unknown" cause. Pretty sure Covid was that cause. If flu wasn't responsible for the e in pneumonia deaths, what else was?

    I also don't know why Hart and "Team Reality" keep posting data that show Covid is far worse than the flu. Hart posted this the other day, as well. https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html

    Pneumonia deaths peaked twice over their usual average during this time.
    But they aren’t 100% confirmed Covid 19 via a test and include probable.

    “Coronavirus disease deaths are identified using the ICD–10 code U07.1. Deaths are coded to U07.1 when coronavirus disease 2019 or COVID-19 are reported as a cause that contributed to death on the death certificate. These can include laboratory confirmed cases, as well as cases without laboratory confirmation. If the certifier suspects COVID-19 or determines it was likely (e.g., the cir stances were compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), they can report COVID-19 as “probable” or “presumed” on the death certificate (5, 6).”

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...tech_notes.htm

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    Trump doing Trump things

    "WASHINGTON — President Trump moved on Friday night to replace a top official at the Department of Health and Human Services who angered him with a report last month highlighting supply shortages and testing delays at hospitals during the coronavirus pandemic.

    The White House waited until after business hours to announce the nomination of a new inspector general for the department who, if confirmed, would take over for Christi A. Grimm, the principal deputy inspector general who was publicly assailed by the president at a news briefing three weeks ago...."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/u...-watchdog.html
    NYT doing NYT things

    Admiral Giroir (April 7): ..."If there was such a problem that she knew about or he knew about on March 23rd and 24th, why did I find out about the test from them on the news media at 8 o’clock this morning?"

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