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    BigPharma good now

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    Same plateau-ing in MA, from Boston Globe email

    Six weeks after social distancing began,

    Mass. coronavirus hospitalizations and cases remain high.

    Why so little improvement?

    Rewind the clock a month, to late March, as nonessential businesses were closing and

    Governor Charlie Baker asked us to stay home to reduce the spread of coronavirus.

    Where did we imagine we would be as a state by the start of May?

    A lot further along than we are now.

    It’s maddening:

    More than six weeks after statewide social distancing measures began to take effect,

    the number of hospitalizations for COVID-19 infections is stuck in a stubbornly high place, and

    the daily death toll is at once tragic and numbing.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/...ews:newsletter

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    I suspect Easter had a bunch of people breaking protocol and it's starting to show.

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/cough-goi...160636639.html


    Was That a Cough? Going Back to the Movies in Texas.

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    Worldometer is listing available data from every county in Texas now: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/

    Moore county stands out.
    Huston

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    "City ends face-mask rule for shoppers after store employees are threatened"
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/city-ends...205822754.html

    Methlahoma
    When white people refuse to follow the rules, the rules get changed. Imagine that.

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    just 22 more months to go

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    I suspect Easter had a bunch of people breaking protocol and it's starting to show.
    Case increase could be a result of testing increase. Let's see (I have no idea, so we're holding our breath together here):

    https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en/test

    Hard to say. Texas performed a lot of tests on 5/1 and 5/2 for a 4 and 5% positive rate, which is outstanding. But were these tests actually performed on those days or are these a testing backlog that just got counted? I think Texas is looking pretty good, though. Hospitalizations remain dead flat and well under threshold. As I said earlier, I think Texas could try to reopen and then lockdown if cases really e. We have to remember that the original motive for staying-at-home was to flatten the curve, not prevent everyone from infection. Texas is pretty damn flat.

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    Case increase could be a result of testing increase. Let's see (I have no idea, so we're holding our breath together here):

    https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en/test

    Hard to say. Texas performed a lot of tests on 5/1 and 5/2 for a 4 and 5% positive rate, which is outstanding. But were these tests actually performed on those days or are these a testing backlog that just got counted? I think Texas is looking pretty good, though. Hospitalizations remain dead flat and well under threshold. As I said earlier, I think Texas could try to reopen and then lockdown if cases really e. We have to remember that the original motive for staying-at-home was to flatten the curve, not prevent everyone from infection. Texas is pretty damn flat.
    Yeah at this point with testing ramping up as much as it is new cases aren’t as worrisome it’s hospitalizations that we should be focusing on.

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    Case increase could be a result of testing increase. Let's see (I have no idea, so we're holding our breath together here):

    https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en/test

    Hard to say. Texas performed a lot of tests on 5/1 and 5/2 for a 4 and 5% positive rate, which is outstanding. But were these tests actually performed on those days or are these a testing backlog that just got counted? I think Texas is looking pretty good, though. Hospitalizations remain dead flat and well under threshold. As I said earlier, I think Texas could try to reopen and then lockdown if cases really e. We have to remember that the original motive for staying-at-home was to flatten the curve, not prevent everyone from infection. Texas is pretty damn flat.
    Right. I thought two-week declines were the goal before reopening but arbitrary date seems just as good. Cases and deaths are going to go up; I just want to know what numbers of deaths Abbott finds acceptable in a period of time. That's what it actually comes down to and it's the exact thing no one wants to talk about.

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    Right. I thought two-week declines were the goal before reopening but arbitrary date seems just as good. Cases and deaths are going to go up; I just want to know what numbers of deaths Abbott finds acceptable in a period of time. That's what it actually comes down to and it's the exact thing no one wants to talk about.
    Yeah, it's a tough decision. Ideally, I'd love a national program in place to pay people until the proven antivirals and hopefully a vaccine arrive, so we're not forced into choosing between the economy and death. That isn't going to happen, obviously. But people need to eat and pay their bills, so we're pretty much locked into having to open up and just addressing the consequences as they happen. Texas's population density, weather, and such should minimize the fallout, unlike New York where conditions were just optimal in every conceivable way.

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    Case increase could be a result of testing increase. Let's see (I have no idea, so we're holding our breath together here):

    https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en/test

    Hard to say. Texas performed a lot of tests on 5/1 and 5/2 for a 4 and 5% positive rate, which is outstanding. But were these tests actually performed on those days or are these a testing backlog that just got counted? I think Texas is looking pretty good, though. Hospitalizations remain dead flat and well under threshold. As I said earlier, I think Texas could try to reopen and then lockdown if cases really e. We have to remember that the original motive for staying-at-home was to flatten the curve, not prevent everyone from infection. Texas is pretty damn flat.
    Look at NY tests vs positives. It's like 1/3rd of the tests are positive. California has like 1/12 as positive. Is Cali testing too much or NY too little?

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    Live updates:

    Protesters with no masks, distancing are ‘devastatingly worrisome,’ Birx says;

    Pompeo claims ‘enormous evidence’ that coronavirus came from Wuhan lab



    The United States recorded
    nearly 13,500 more deaths that are now attributed to the novel coronavirus in March and the first two weeks of April.

    Congressional leaders are girding for a huge fight over the
    reentry of millions of Americans to the workplace.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/03/coronavirus-latest-news/

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    Yeah at this point with testing ramping up as much as it is new cases aren’t as worrisome it’s hospitalizations that we should be focusing on.
    Hospitalizations are indeed the best gauge. We're flat in California, but I can see why our officials might still be reluctant to open up. We're about 10 percent capacity according to https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en/test but we've been flat at 10 percent for 3 weeks, with stay-at-home. I would guess our officials want to see us cut down that rate to about 5 percent (where Texas is at) before opening more up.

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    Look at NY tests vs positives. It's like 1/3rd of the tests are positive. California has like 1/12 as positive. Is Cali testing too much or NY too little?
    I would guess the virus is just more transmissible in New York due to their pop density, mass transit use, weather, etc. NY has tested more than any other state, even per capita (aside from Rhode Island), so them testing too little isn't an issue. The prevalence is just crazy there. The most infected region in the world.

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    Bill Gates, Big Picture Artist, points out that medical glass tubes to contain the treatment or vaccine are in short supply.

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    Bill Gates, Big Picture Artist, points out that medical glass tubes to contain the treatment or vaccine are in short supply.

    Its always something

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    I would guess the virus is just more transmissible in New York due to their pop density, mass transit use, weather, etc. NY has tested more than any other state, even per capita (aside from Rhode Island), so them testing too little isn't an issue. The prevalence is just crazy there. The most infected region in the world.

    I wonder if those are the most important factors and that lockdowns for other areas were not warranted.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/do-lock...no-11587930911

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    We had a two day e in SA, but it was predominantly at the Bexar county jail.

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    pigs being pigs

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    I wonder if those are the most important factors and that lockdowns for other areas were not warranted.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/do-lock...no-11587930911
    We can't say for sure. But guessing wrong on locking down is better than guessing wrong on not locking down. Guessing wrong on the former won't lead to more deaths, while guessing wrong on the latter can be tragic.

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    holy new estimates are back to about 250k deaths

    and 100k dead by end of June

    the 2nd wave in fall is going to be even deadlier

    holy

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    we could possibly be at 300k dead by Christmas eve

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