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    As far as I know, the low percentage who survived ventilators were not "killed" .

    Wtf are you talking about?
    I'm talking about the high percentage of people who survived being put on a ventilator depending on where you choose to look.

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    Some anti inflammatory drugs include steriods.
    You should not take steriods unless your doctor knows you will not react to them.
    If you want more I will give them to you. There are all sorts of inflammatory drugs.

    Now you explain.

    Im still holding back on the rest.

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    I'm talking about the high percentage of people who survived being put on a ventilator depending on where you choose to look.
    Link?

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    Some anti inflammatory include steriods.
    You should not take steriods unless your doctor knows you will not react to them.
    If you want more I will give them to you. There are all sorts of inflammatory drugs.

    Now you explain.

    Im still holding back on the rest.
    Don't hold back

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    I gave you my reason.
    Its your turn.
    Go.

    I will go further and say you are going to have to get a prescription for steriods from a doctor. (why would that be? just get it off the shelf?)
    Unless its in some supplement and really does not do much or your body produces it naturally and it is in very low quan ies in the supplement.

    So go Darrin.
    Explain why anti inflammatorys should be used. There are situations which I would use them. But not blanket with Covid like you have stated.

    So go Darrin.

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    Go to 9:38 (whole thing is worth watching)


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    It still amazes me that people just throw out there, are proven dead wrong, and come back for more after being punked.
    The red team is a resilient group. Trump has taught them being dead wrong does not matter, just throw up more

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    I gave you my reason.
    Its your turn.
    Go.

    I will go further and say you are going to have to get a prescription for steriods from a doctor. (why would that be? just get it off the shelf?)
    Unless its in some supplement and really does not do much or your body produces it naturally and it is in very low quan ies in the supplement.

    So go Darrin.
    Explain why anti inflammatorys should be used. There are situations which I would use them. But not blanket with Covid like you have stated.

    So go Darrin.

    I have family and friends who are doctors. I'm trying to post useful information. Take it or leave it.

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    Why administer Hydroxycholriquine when a Remdesivir tail works better?

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    You can either educate yourself about why certain people have bad outcomes, or not.

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    Why administer Hydroxycholriquine when a Remdesivir tail works better?

    I'm on team "whatever works".

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    Remdesivir works so well, in the right combination, that Trump has taken over distribution

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    I have family and friends who are doctors. I'm trying to post useful information. Take it or leave it.
    You dont want to go with credentials from friends (I have a ton of doctor friends) and you definitely dont want to do personal credentials.
    Including my wife who works closely with them.

    did you listen to the first part of your OWN video? I surprised Rogan actually understands the difference between anti inflammatories.

    Tell your doctor friends this is a new virus and we are getting a ton of conflicting reports about who should and should not go on ventilators. People come in to hospitals in different conditions and at different ages. Ventilators have save some peoples lives. FACT.

    Back to the anti inflammatory. NO.
    Not in all cases. We are still figuring this out. Its NEW and causes differing symptoms in different people.

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    You can either educate yourself about why certain people have bad outcomes, or not.
    I am. Even this NY study linked above doesn't really conclude mechanical ventilation is a death sentence the further you look into it.

    As of April 4, 2020, for patients requiring mechanical ventilation (n = 1151, 20.2%), 38 (3.3%) were discharged alive, 282 (24.5%) died, and 831 (72.2%) remained in hospital.
    Inconclusive without following up on the 831 IMO.

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    Remdesivir works so well, in the right combination, that Trump has taken over distribution
    At a certain progression point in the disease.

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    Remdesivir works so well, in the right combination, that Trump has taken over distribution
    Wut?

    Are you still 9/11 conspita ?

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    Lol

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    I made a much less elegant comment about it yesterday.

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    You dont want to go with credentials from friends (I have a ton of doctor friends) and you definitely dont want to do personal credentials.
    Including my wife who works closely with them.

    did you listen to the first part of your OWN video? I surprised Rogan actually understands the difference between anti inflammatories.

    Tell your doctor friends this is a new virus and we are getting a ton of conflicting reports about who should and should not go on ventilators. People come in to hospitals in different conditions and at different ages. Ventilators have save some peoples lives. FACT.

    Back to the anti inflammatory. NO.
    Not in all cases. We are still figuring this out. Its NEW and causes differing symptoms in different people.

    I wonder how many thousands of Americans were killed on ventilators?

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    I'm on team "whatever works".
    Look Darrin.
    Team whatever works may have ate cat and claimed it worked because they recovered.
    Are you going with that?
    George Washington survived pneumonia after being bled out. It most likely caused him to almost die but he recovered. So bleeding out is good?
    This is why we have SCIENCE that takes time.

    Will you guys just wake the fck up please and let the science guys work this out instead of pretending you are Trump?

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    I have family and friends who are doctors. I'm trying to post useful information. Take it or leave it.
    They all say a ventilator is a death sentence?

    I don't buy it

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    I wonder how many thousands of Americans were killed on ventilators?
    As shown, probably nowhere near as meany as you thought were "killed."

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    I wonder how many thousands of Americans were killed on ventilators?
    I dont know and it is sad but these poor doctors did not know any better because this is NEW and very difficult.
    They were not trying to kill people, they were working with the best ideas available, unless they were not trying to keep up.
    I could give you a ton of articles that are trying to parse this out.

    You just cannot make blanket statements with this thing.

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    Look Darrin.
    Team whatever works may have ate cat and claimed it worked because they recovered.
    Are you going with that?
    George Washington survived pneumonia after being bled out. It most likely caused him to almost die but he recovered. So bleeding out is good?
    This is why we have SCIENCE that takes time.

    Will you guys just wake the fck up please and let the science guys work this out instead of pretending you are Trump?


    You can stay in the fetal position as long as you like. Life is more than not dying.

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