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    Ain’t going away in the summer with fall to come.
    Its hard to turn back reopening and people can’t just lock in.

    We are in for a rough year.

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    Its all good.
    Its just the flu.

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    US number are NOT DOWN

    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...7&country=~USA

    https://rt.live/?fbclid=IwAR2SuH8Qib...2i2x4lLQiLpzRs

    PPE supply is still huge problem

    govt is expecting a huge C19 surge in the autumn

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    What they don’t tell you about surviving COVID-19

    'Recovered' doesn't mean healthy again

    The lucky ones — if you can call them that — recover, but not in the sense that their lives are back to normal. For some, the damage is permanent. Their organs will never fully heal.


    “When they say ’recovered,’ they don’t tell you that that means you may need a lung transplant,”

    “Or that you may come back after discharge with a massive heart attack or stroke,

    because COVID makes your blood thick as .

    Or that you may have to be on oxygen for the rest of your life.”


    I'm currently in the hospital after having a heart attack caused by clotting that resulted from COVID 19. I have a stent in my heart and need to wear a heart monitoring vest at all times. Now I face months of recovery including physical and occupational therapy. I'm only 29.


    —Dan

    I went into acute kidney failure and needed dialysis. I now have asthma, chronic cough and an irregular heartbeat. I have conditions I never had before, plus I’m wiped all the time. I hope this gets better, but you [Sherie] are on the money. And, mine was considered a low-moderate case.

    — Stephanie McCarroll

    These are my observations (of hospitalized patients):

    1) Everybody is so swollen their skin has blisters and is so tight it looks like it’s about to burst, from head to heel. And skin so dry peeling and flaky that to slather Vaseline on every shift is almost necessary — all over.


    2) Everybody’s skin is weeping clear fluid and has sores and the skin just slides off with slightest turn or rub, all over the body.

    3) Everybody’s blood is thick as slush. Can’t figure out what’s making it clot like that, but it’s dark and thick.


    4) Everybody’s kidneys are failing. Urine dark or red, which could contribute to the swelling, but we don’t know yet.


    5) Everybody has an abnormal heart rhythm. Not sure of the cause. But even without underlying heart problems, it’s not beating normally.


    6) Seems counterproductive, but the ones that are not breathing on the ventilator have to lay flat on their stomachs to breathe better. And even some on the ventilator are on their stomachs. And the slightest turn for some is what leads to their almost immediate death. Bathing, cleaning and turning to prevent skin breakdown causes most to code blue, so a decision has to be made on which is most important.


    7) Everyone has a Foley catheter and a rectal tube — incontinent of bowel and bladder.

    8) Everybody on tube feeding. Everybody.


    Never before in my entire career have I seen a disease process attack in this way.

    — 20-year veteran nurse in NYC via Dr. Dee Knight


    I spent 10 days on a ventilator last March with ARDS [Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome] and I'm still on oxygen. Going home is just the beginning of the next steps in recovering. Every aspect of my life has changed for the worse. Please support and help anyone you know who survived. And wear a mask!
    — Nurse @liveV4Vendetta


    I'm just getting over a "mild" case after over two months. There's scarring in my lower right lung and my stomach and digestion are a mess like never before. But I'm coughing way less and can take walks again.

    And, btw, this is the third time in two months that I've "gotten better." I'm just hoping it's the last and it doesn't all come back AGAIN.
    — Eli


    I’m a nurse on a COVID floor, I caught it. I am a relatively healthy 24-year-old and could barely walk up a half flight of stairs. My blood pressure skyrocketed, chest pain was debilitating. I’m 8 weeks out and still feeling the chest pain and shortness of breath. This is no joke.
    — Alicia


    I had COVID for over 60 days. I’m 33 years old, was super healthy, pescatarian, 125 pounds, and ran and did yoga every day. I couldn’t walk for two weeks besides a couple steps. It was the worst illness of my life.
    I didn’t realize I had COVID symptoms for weeks. Here were the early signs:
    - Waking up sweaty (I normally don’t sweat at night).
    - Slight sporadic chills but no fever (or I thought I had no fever bc I only took my temp during the day).
    - I could smell fine but would have weird smells like metallic or gas. Also, tasted metallic in the past 2-3 weeks. Apparently, a metallic taste or smell is related to lung problems.
    - Loose stool but not terrible.
    — Covid teacher


    I "recovered" March 29. I was born 65 years ago with chronic bronchitis that usually popped up maybe twice a year. Now, after COVID-19, I have acute bronchitis attacks 3-4 times a month and get winded walking to the mailbox.
    — Hollis Charles


    I got COVID in March, and in May, developed symptoms of encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome that leave me bedridden for days at a time. I’m so glad someone mentioned this so I know that I’m not the only one experiencing this.
    — @PinkkYaYa


    My mom worked on a COVID ward and contracted it, spent a month in ICU. She’s lucky enough to be home now, but she struggles to get up stairs and it’s going to be a long road to recovery. Thank you for everything that you do.
    — Leanne

    My coworker — an otherwise totally healthy 30-year-old — is still having issues breathing, two full months later. We’ve got patients coming back to the ER after they’re “recovered” because they can’t breathe or they get a blood clot. It’s so insane.

    — Andi

    I had it back in March and did 6 days on a ventilator. To date, I’m still short of breath with little exertion. I have pains all over that I have never had before. I’ve noticed I don’t urinate as much as I use to. And my legs & feet keep swelling so large no shoes fit. Even flops.

    — Melly B.

    I’m a healthy, active 23 year-old and I still have significant lung damage two months after I’ve “recovered.”

    — Laney Whitney

    https://www.mysanantonio.com/science...nt=news&stn=nf

    but, well-protected, no-risk Capital wants ALL exposed Labor to go back work.


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    White House adviser: Trump administration preparing for possible second wave of coronavirus in the fall

    White House trade adviser Peter Navarro said Sunday that the Trump administration is preparing for the possibility that a second wave of Covid-19 could hit the United States in the fall.

    "We are filling the stockpile in anticipation of a possible problem in the fall. We are doing everything we can beneath the surface, working as hard as we possibly can," Navarro told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union."

    Asked by Tapper if the administration is preparing for a second wave in the fall, Navarro replied, "Of course."

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/21/politics/trump-administration-preparing-coronavirus-second-wave-cnntv/index.html

    Thanks to the red/Confederate states, USA may still be in the first wave by end of the year.


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    my state down here in australia are back into restrictions after +20 new cases, fearing of clusters...3 schools shutdown, and some idiots who went to protests BLM when it was only a few days till lockdown restrictions was lifted, they had to go out and protest wasting 7 weeks of hard work state/country self isolating...now alot of ppl are pissed that lockdowns are back and certainly businesses who survived phase1, wont survived phase2....

    the idiots who participated in the protests, now their workplaces are also in lockdown for a cleansing...how fkn lame, when jobs are on the line and everyone is doing it tough with no stable income or no job

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    my state down here in australia are back into restrictions after +20 new cases, fearing of clusters...3 schools shutdown, and some idiots who went to protests BLM when it was only a few days till lockdown restrictions was lifted, they had to go out and protest wasting 7 weeks of hard work state/country self isolating...now alot of ppl are pissed that lockdowns are back and certainly businesses who survived phase1, wont survived phase2....

    the idiots who participated in the protests, now their workplaces are also in lockdown for a cleansing...how fkn lame, when jobs are on the line and everyone is doing it tough with no stable income or no job
    do you have any idiots going to indoor rallies with the president of the US

    if so make sure the people that check out the indoor venue test +, that’s how we do things here.

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    how BADLY stupid, ing America, esp the Confederacy, is ING UP, USA vs Canada

    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...ountry=USA~CAN

    Navarro said Feds expect a C19 surge in the autumn, which would be the first wave continuing, since it never went away

    PPE is still in short supply.

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    do you have any idiots going to indoor rallies with the president of the US

    if so make sure the people that check out the indoor venue test +, that’s how we do things here.
    You have no logic

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    You have no logic
    You dont know what logic means.

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    You dont know what logic means.
    evidence suggests the median coronavirus infection fatality rate for those under 70 is just 0.04%.

    The estimate throws into sharp relief the lopsided mortality figures for the disease, which has claimed an inordinate number of elderly people across the planet while leaving younger individuals mostly unscathed.

    John Ioannidis, a professor of epidemiology and population health at Stanford University, argues in a paper published earlier this month that COVID-19 "seroprevalence studies," which measure infection rates using the presence of antibodies in blood samples, "typically show a much lower fatality than initially speculated in the earlier days of the pandemic.

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    evidence suggests the median coronavirus infection fatality rate for those under 70 is just 0.04%.

    The estimate throws into sharp relief the lopsided mortality figures for the disease, which has claimed an inordinate number of elderly people across the planet while leaving younger individuals mostly unscathed.

    John Ioannidis, a professor of epidemiology and population health at Stanford University, argues in a paper published earlier this month that COVID-19 "seroprevalence studies," which measure infection rates using the presence of antibodies in blood samples, "typically show a much lower fatality than initially speculated in the earlier days of the pandemic.
    What's the high number of the range he reviewed?

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    tholdren if full of

    Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths


    https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

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    tholdren if full of

    Age, Sex, Existing Conditions of COVID-19 Cases and Deaths


    https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/
    Lololl what is that? Lololol

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    at this point with the amount of increasing cases all over the country, just have to hope that at some point the covid-19 strain mutated into a less lethal version. daily death figures have still been lower lately, which is great, but those numbers tend to lag the cases by some time

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    150K dead / 2.1M cases = 7% mortality

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    The virus seems relatively stable. There have been mutations but where is the evidence that it is less lethal now?

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    What's the high number of the range he reviewed?
    ooh ooh. I know.

    Found the study. I can see why virus twoofer is cherry picking.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...253v2.full.pdf

    There is a reason he hides the links to his source material.

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    The virus seems relatively stable. There have been mutations but where is the evidence that it is less lethal now?
    It's not. Estimates have always been in the neighborhood of .0025-.0066 for overall fatality, with sharply lower incidence of death for those under 50. Even tholdrens cherry-picked bull puts it in this range.

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    The virus seems relatively stable. There have been mutations but where is the evidence that it is less lethal now?
    i dont know that there is, i'm wishcasting. this e in cases is concerning...

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    It's not. Estimates have always been in the neighborhood of .0025-.0066 for overall fatality, with sharply lower incidence of death for those under 50. Even tholdrens cherry-picked bull puts it in this range.
    Cdc stats. Disease death is always an estimation. But of course you knew that. Bwahaahhahaha

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    i dont know that there is, i'm wishcasting. this e in cases is concerning...
    Even with cases nationally plateau-ing, death rates have been steadily decreasing. Could be younger, healthier demographic, or better treatment.

    Discussed at the end of this video, but the whole video is pretty informative.


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    It's not. Estimates have always been in the neighborhood of .0025-.0066 for overall fatality, with sharply lower incidence of death for those under 50. Even tholdrens cherry-picked bull puts it in this range.

    Wait! Dr. Holdren actually making sense? Scary

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    i dont know that there is, i'm wishcasting. this e in cases is concerning...
    1.13 with six days being contagious is doubling cases in about 32 days.

    https://rt.live/

    FWIW.

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