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    chuck said something like he's never referred to a player by the color of the skin (yeah, right) on the court.

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    Yeah i find that hard to believe

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    That’s a fair criticism, but I think the distinction is still there. It’s about the evolution of cultural language. You see, the distinction isn’t really between “racist” and “racism.” The distinction is between “racism” and “racial discrimination.” That’s where the real difference exists. But when you talk about a movement or ideology for racial justice, screaming “Stop Racial Discrimination!” can be word heavy. “Stop Racism!” much more succinct.

    Language is dynamic and meanings and definitions evolve.

    What is the word “boondocks” mean? It’s like somewhere ing far, remote, tough to get to. Right? Something like that. I’m Filipino. Boondocks is derived from the Tagalog word “bundok,” meaning mountain. Usually pretty ing far away. But boondocks in American English has nothing to do with mountains. GIs stationed in the Philippines in WWI and WWII brought the word back with them. Meanings change. Language evolves.

    Racism really means racial discrimination. It’s evolved into that, and is distinct from racist. And maybe it will change again. But I think currently the distinction is still there.
    Right, it's just two different meanings of the word "racism." The issue is whether you believe the second meaning is valid. It's controversial, but there are well-reasoned objections to the "racism involves power" argument.

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    You can't keep asking for equality, even displaying the word in the back of player jerseys, then expect special treatment and a pass in situations like this

    That's what equality is, all parties being treated fairly and in similar fashion.

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    Right, it's just two different meanings of the word "racism." The issue is whether you believe the second meaning is valid. It's controversial, but there are well-reasoned objections to the "racism involves power" argument.
    I want to say that meaning is pretty widely accepted as valid though. But perhaps your experience is different. I don’t know. Honestly.

    But it’s not exclusive to “racism.” It’s similar language usage with sexist, sexism.

    Misogynistic words, thoughts, comments are viewed as “sexist.” It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re automatically sexism. But a company not promoting the more qualified woman over the less qualified man is “sexism.” Oppressive action or a power dynamic must exist.

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    I have to be honest, this match-up could basically be for the le. Though the Mavs are a little shaky in any round.

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    its been a good series, but if playoff p actually comes out and plays i think its over for the mavs, especially if Porzingis is hurt and doesnt play. Luka would have to have game 4 numbers and performances every game if they want to have a shot. Dallas just needs another guy that can shoot and create his own shot, most likely a 2nd option, cause i still think Porzingis should be the 3rd one.

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    Go Mavs !!!

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    I have to be honest, this match-up could basically be for the le. Though the Mavs are a little shaky in any round.
    Wish this were true. We just don't play enough to defense to be a true contender yet.

    But we aren't far away from true contender status. As Neo said(we finally agree on something ) give us a Draymond Green, versatile defender glue guy and we are right there.

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    Series is probably over. Porzingis not playing. I'm certain Paul George is going to show up to some degree this game. Clippers had a double digit lead last game but blew it. I don't think they will make the same mistake twice. Mavs have no pressure I will say that though. They already overachieved. All the pressure is on the Clippers.

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    Wish this were true. We just don't play enough to defense to be a true contender yet.

    But we aren't far away from true contender status. As Neo said(we finally agree on something ) give us a Draymond Green, versatile defender glue guy and we are right there.
    Neo is (Mono) Slob. Don't dignify his alt, tbh.

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    Neo is (Mono) Slob. Don't dignify his alt, tbh.

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    porzy out again

    if the clippas lose again


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    Series is probably over. Porzingis not playing. I'm certain Paul George is going to show up to some degree this game. Clippers had a double digit lead last game but blew it. I don't think they will make the same mistake twice. Mavs have no pressure I will say that though. They already overachieved. All the pressure is on the Clippers.
    George plays like azz vs the Lakers and they don't have a chance. Means the Lebron worshipers wont shut up all summer after he gets that bubble-ring.

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    Porzingis is not reliable as he ll always have problems with his knee. Sucks for the series.

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    Porzingis is not reliable as he ll always have problems with his knee. Sucks for the series.
    Like i said dudes over 7 foot 2 always deal with kner feet or injuries to various lower extremities. If you cant count on porzy im the playofgs whats the point? It was a great trafe now flip him for more reliable help even if that help is less talented.
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 08-25-2020 at 01:56 PM.

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    Like i daid dudes over 7 fpot 2 always deal with kner feet or injuries to various lower extremities. If you cant count on porzy im the playofgs whats the point? It was a great trafe now flip him for more reliable help even if that help is less talented.
    When was the last time Boban missed a game?

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    I think 7+ foot guys are more susceptible to injuries to the back, knees, and feet. But not all 7 footers get injured. Some get lucky. But I do think that once they do get a serious injury to one of those, it’s very likely they’re either lingering or recurring type injuries. Kristaps already had an ACL injury requiring surgery. He’ll likely deal with knee issues the rest of his life.

    It’s one of the reasons I would try to trade Embiid if I were Philly. Embiid’s already hit the trifecta with injuries by his mid 20s. Knee and foot surgeries, a stress fracture in his lower back. His body is probably a ticking time bomb.

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    Like i said dudes over 7 foot 2 always deal with kner feet or injuries to various lower extremities. If you cant count on porzy im the playofgs whats the point? It was a great trafe now flip him for more reliable help even if that help is less talented.
    He's going to have a Ralph Sampson career type of trajectory.

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    Like i said dudes over 7 foot 2 always deal with kner feet or injuries to various lower extremities. If you cant count on porzy im the playofgs whats the point? It was a great trafe now flip him for more reliable help even if that help is less talented.
    always? wtf kind of hot take is that

    kd,kg, d rob, olajuwon, dirk all had long healthy careers

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    Neo is (Mono) Slob. Don't dignify his alt, tbh.
    rent free

    and i didnt even have to do anything tbh lol

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    George plays like azz vs the Lakers and they don't have a chance. Means the Lebron worshipers wont shut up all summer after he gets that bubble-ring.
    lol bringing up lebron and whining about paul george playing poorly against him when the lakers and clippers are still 2 series away from having the possibility of playing each other

    tbh dont act like the lebron haters wont shut up all summer if he doesnt win

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    I honestly don't even know if this is a legit le no matter who wins it. I have mixed feelings on it.

    You are not likely to see me in here harping on his 2020 Final's loss. Why would I when I have so many other legit finals losses of his to choose from?

    lol bringing up lebron and whining about paul george playing poorly against him when the lakers and clippers are still 2 series away from having the possibility of playing each other

    tbh dont act like the lebron haters wont shut up all summer if he doesnt win

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    I honestly don't even know if this is a legit le no matter who wins it. I have mixed feelings on it.
    not sure how it's illegitimate

    different? sure. but its a tournament of the best basketball teams in the nba. the only difference is all the games are on a neutral site without fans. if anything, one could argue that this is the most legitimate tournament the nba has ever had as its the most neutral environment ever played it, while keeping players as mentally tested as ever in being under uncommon cir stances. also less excuses of "the grind of the season wore them out". this could arguably be one of the more impressive championships a team could win.

    just because it's different, doesn't make it illegitimate. it would be one thing if every single game was played at the boston garden in front of celtics fans, or where half the teams played 80 games and the other half played 40 or something obviously one-sided like that. but there are nothing about these cir stances that favor any team.

    You are not likely to see me in here harping on his 2020 Final's loss. Why would I when I have so many other legit finals losses of his to choose from?
    considering you bring him up out of thin air every chance you get, just to make some kind of illogical, obsessive, pointless, ill-informed statement about him, it seems quite likely tbh
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    not sure how it's illegitimate

    different? sure. but its a tournament of the best basketball teams in the nba. the only difference is all the games are on a neutral site without fans. if anything, one could argue that this is the most legitimate tournament the nba has ever had as its the most neutral environment ever played it, while keeping players as mentally tested as ever in being under uncommon cir stances. also less excuses of "the grind of the season wore them out". this could arguably be one of the more impressive championships a team could win.

    just because it's different, doesn't make it illegitimate. it would be one thing if every single game was played at the boston garden in front of celtics fans, or where half the teams played 80 games and the other half played 40 or something obviously one-sided like that. but there are nothing about these cir stances that favor any team.



    considering you bring him up out of thin air every chance you get, just to make some kind of illogical, obsessive, pointless, ill-informed statement about him, it seems quite likely tbh
    I love seeing y'all triggered so easily over Lebron. Everything I say about him is factual, BTW.

    I get your explanation and have pondered it myself. The reason that I am not sure it's a legit le is that HCA is out the window here. So what if a lower seed wins? Said lower seed didn't have to play in any hostile environments as they normally would have. Does that sorta cheapen the experience?

    That's one scenario. Here's another...God forbid it happens, but this is the world we live in now. Lakers are playing the Bucks in the Finals. Lebron and AD both get the 'Rona and test positive before tipoff in GM2. Now the Bucks have to guard Markieff Morris and Jared Dudley instead. Unless of course there is some sort of provision that I don't know about delaying the finals until players clear, then I think Laker fan would be claiming the Buck's le was not legit.

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    I love seeing y'all triggered so easily over Lebron. Everything I say about him is factual, BTW.
    nice try to mask your obviously trash opinions as trolling you obviously have not been here long enough

    I get your explanation and have pondered it myself. The reason that I am not sure it's a legit le is that HCA is out the window here. So what if a lower seed wins? Said lower seed didn't have to play in any hostile environments as they normally would have. Does that sorta cheapen the experience?
    no. it shows who the best basketball teams are. not who has the loudest fans or most acoustic arenas to create a more noisy atmosphere.

    That's one scenario. Here's another...God forbid it happens, but this is the world we live in now. Lakers are playing the Bucks in the Finals. Lebron and AD both get the 'Rona and test positive before tipoff in GM2. Now the Bucks have to guard Markieff Morris and Jared Dudley instead. Unless of course there is some sort of provision that I don't know about delaying the finals until players clear, then I think Laker fan would be claiming the Buck's le was not legit.
    um... ok?

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