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[pad300]

??? all this shows is murder? What am I supposed to be looking at here? It shows the kid shooting some guy in the head and then running away?

You clearly don't understand the concept of self defense, particularly in law. The video clearly shows the rifleman running away from the red-shirt on head guy, who pursues him and throws stuff at him. Rifleman is clearly trying to break away from the fight, not just saying it, I have a rifle and shooting the guy. This counts as trying to de-escalate the situation (some laws call this duty to retreat), his pursuer chases him down and instigates the final confrontation. Assuming rifleman believes he is in danger of significant violence (let's see white guy being attacked by masked lunatic in the middle of a violent antifa/BLM riot...), he has hit legal self defence territory. Further, it looks like he called 911 after that, which is evidence that he is not of "depraved mind" : he's trying to get the guy some medical help. That's not the stuff of successful murder charges.

[mo7888]

Yes, but he was being chased because he shot a guy in the head. The video isn't clear on what/how it went down but it does show him shooting the guy in the head.

The longer video (that you didn't want to watch) shows how it went down to a point. It does shows the guy that got shot in the head chasing him though...

[mo7888]

You clearly don't understand the concept of self defense, particularly in law. The video clearly shows the rifleman running away from the red-shirt on head guy, who pursues him and throws stuff at him. Rifleman is clearly trying to break away from the fight, not just saying it, I have a rifle and shooting the guy. This counts as trying to de-escalate the situation (some laws call this duty to retreat), his pursuer chases him down and instigates the final confrontation. Assuming rifleman believes he is in danger of significant violence (let's see white guy being attacked by masked lunatic in the middle of a violent antifa/BLM riot...), he has hit legal self defence territory. Further, it looks like he called 911 after that, which is evidence that he is not of "depraved mind" : he's trying to get the guy some medical help. That's not the stuff of successful murder charges.

Yep..

[weeks]

dude he shot in the head was pedo i heard.
good riddance

[baseline bum]

You clearly don't understand the concept of self defense, particularly in law. The video clearly shows the rifleman running away from the red-shirt on head guy, who pursues him and throws stuff at him. Rifleman is clearly trying to break away from the fight, not just saying it, I have a rifle and shooting the guy. This counts as trying to de-escalate the situation (some laws call this duty to retreat), his pursuer chases him down and instigates the final confrontation. Assuming rifleman believes he is in danger of significant violence (let's see white guy being attacked by masked lunatic in the middle of a violent antifa/BLM riot...), he has hit legal self defence territory. Further, it looks like he called 911 after that, which is evidence that he is not of "depraved mind" : he's trying to get the guy some medical help. That's not the stuff of successful murder charges.

So classy to shoot someone in the head and then call 911 to tell them to come pick up the body.

[cd98]

We don’t know if this was self defense. Before the shooter was attacked by the two people he shot, the shooter shot and killed someone else. We don’t have any evidence yet that that shooting was self defense. If the two guys that were trying to catch the shooter did so bc he murdered the first person he shot, then it wasn’t self defense.

obviously it’s too early to know all the facts to conclude guilt or innocence.

[RD2191]

You clearly don't understand the concept of self defense, particularly in law. The video clearly shows the rifleman running away from the red-shirt on head guy, who pursues him and throws stuff at him. Rifleman is clearly trying to break away from the fight, not just saying it, I have a rifle and shooting the guy. This counts as trying to de-escalate the situation (some laws call this duty to retreat), his pursuer chases him down and instigates the final confrontation. Assuming rifleman believes he is in danger of significant violence (let's see white guy being attacked by masked lunatic in the middle of a violent antifa/BLM riot...), he has hit legal self defence territory. Further, it looks like he called 911 after that, which is evidence that he is not of "depraved mind" : he's trying to get the guy some medical help. That's not the stuff of successful murder charges.

I need a link to that video because I have't seen it. Also, he owned the gun illegally and had no reason to be there. What was he doing alone at the car dealership? Why was he wearing gloves? Seems premeditated to me. He went there looking to cause trouble.

[weeks]

So classy to shoot someone in the head and then call 911 to tell them to come pick up the body.

yeah im gonna cry over this head

[Budkin]

Sounds like the entire season is dead in 3,2,1...

[RD2191]

I mean, how threatened can you feel holding a rifle? This kid would've been the perfect cop, if you're too pussy to defend yourself without a gun then what are you doing out in the street in the middle of a protest/riot?

[pad300]

I need a link to that video because I have't seen it. Also, he owned the gun illegally and had no reason to be there. What was he doing alone at the car dealership? Why was he wearing gloves? Seems premeditated to me. He went there looking to cause trouble.

You got shown that link about a page back. You didn't want to watch it...

[RD2191]

yeah im gonna cry over this head

So he deserved to die because of a crime he committed 18 years ago?

[weeks]

I mean, how threatened can you feel holding a rifle? This kid would've been the perfect cop, if you're too pussy to defend yourself without a gun then what are you doing out in the street in the middle of a protest/riot?

dont bring skateboards to a gun fight

[weeks]

So he deserved to die because of a crime he committed 18 years ago?

you're making a big deal because he killed a violent offender
kid's a ing hero
c s get the rope

[TimDunkem]

you're making a big deal because he killed a violent offender
kid's a ing hero
c s get the rope

What about the second guy he murdered and third guy missing a chunk of his arm now who chased him after shooting the first guy?

[baseline bum]

you're making a big deal because he killed a violent offender
kid's a ing hero
c s get the rope

Hopefully the little got gets shanked

[mo7888]

What about the second guy he murdered and third guy missing a chunk of his arm now who chased him after shooting the first guy?

The 3rd guy...that's the one pointing a gun at the the kid right?

[weeks]

What about the second guy he murdered and third guy missing a chunk of his arm now who chased him after shooting the first guy?

if you're so ing stupid you run up and try to fight a guy with a rifle, after he shot and killed someone, the did you expect to happen

[TimDunkem]

The 3rd guy...that's the one pointing a gun at the the kid right?

After he needlessly shot a guy who correctly assumed he was an agitator with a rifle. Good guys with guns bad now.

Also, nice job glossing over 2nd guy.

[weeks]

Hopefully the little got gets shanked

i bet you'll in your panties a few times to the thought

[pad300]

What about the second guy he murdered and third guy missing a chunk of his arm now who chased him after shooting the first guy?

Those are clear and obvious self-defense. There is no legal right to pursue for non-cops; you can shoot a burglar you catch in the act, but you can't chase him down in the street afterwards.

[RD2191]

Okay, so they were chasing him, (doesn't show why) is he a law enforcement official? How is the crowd supposed to know he isn't just some psycho with a gun? Could't the crowd say they also feared for their life and felt like they needed to defend themselves and disarm the kid running around with a rifle?

[RD2191]

Hopefully the little got gets shanked

tbh

[mo7888]

After he needlessly shot a guy who correctly assumed he was an agitator with a rifle. Good guys with guns bad now.

Also, nice job glossing over 2nd guy.

'Correctly assumed'.... your opinion ain't gonna cut it in court...

[TimDunkem]

if you're so ing stupid you run up and try to fight a guy with a rifle, after he shot and killed someone, the did you expect to happen

After you show up to a protest agitating angry people with a gun, shouldn't he have possibly expected an ass beating? He knew he might be confronted, he was, then he shot the first man, then was chased by the other two he shot. What did he think would happen?